Hipforumers, need sexual advice...

Okay, my girlfriend and I are both in the "No sex before marriage" tier of religious belief. Please do not debate it or knock it in this thread. If you want to bash me or agree with me elsewhere, do so elsewhere not here.

I come for advice... The horizons have expanded...
I'm looking for a big long list of things to do between mild petting (as in "from there and up to) and full on hardcore vaginal intercourse.

I'll read off the list and tick off any no-nos. So, post, post freely, and help out a very horny hippie.

Oh, and if you need any details, don't hesitate to ask...

I'm hoping to have a large amount of posting/detailed posts in this one.

Plus, this will give me a million things I can do even after I do engage in "the big bangeroo" (don't ask where I heard that one, or why I said it. I'm a bit nervous posting about the subject).

Post away!

 

what about oral can yall do that? cause that if u do it right i feel is better than vaginal sex

 

Uhh, kiss her, snuggle, hold hands, blowjob. IDk dude, just have fun.

 

I would say you've pretty much limited yourself to kissing, holding hands, snuggling, maybe a legit massage (with towel covering). Sort of a trip back to my adolescence in the late '50s.

Or, you can play semantics. "What is sex?" Someone said oral. Well, I personally count that as sex, even if Bill Clinton doesn't. Anything stimulating the crotch is sex. Maybe chest fondling gets a pass.

Things became so much easier when we real Hippies dumped all that no sex before marriage rule, (and no sex with different races and no sex with your own gender rules) but good luck with that.

 

Google is your best source for "ideas" like this: http://www.mypleasure.com/features/sextips_archive.asp?type=Foreplay

Lots of websites have many great "no penetration" suggestions. Just search "foreplay" and click away. You could also look at them with your fiance, and let her pick out a few. What about tantric sex? There does not have to be penetration during tantric sex, might be worth checking out.

Congratulations....and good luck

 

I'm not religious but i always took it that what wasn't allowed was the following version of sex. penis in vagina. why? Because this type of sex in religion is for procreation. Anal i'm pretty sure is not encouraged either because it is regarded as sodomy. is that right?So in other words, masturbation by each other to each other, i don't see whats wrong with that. As someone who had tried to support her bf to be celibate in a relationship I'll tell you it can be very tempting to go further. Be strong, you can do it and have lots of fun in the mean time.

So on to what you can do.

I'd suggest learning how to best please each other with oral and masturbation. No specifics but if you read some of the threads in this forum it will lead the way. I find the act of oral to be very intimate and in many ways far less mechanical than sex sometimes can be.

 

Before you are married:

Well, lets see,blowjob is loved by guys, but as fr your girl, I would advise you to give her a head or play a lot with her clit that ll give her a LOT of pleasure, and playing with her boobs, gently and rogh she kite like both
BAsically, experiment, se ewhat she likes, and have fun

After you are married:
You know soem women liek to be dominated use some ... hancuffs and whipped cream ;P

Or some couples actualy prefer to sice up they re relationship using some toys well it deosn't have to hard core but some vibrators might be fun xd

 

yeah, Why not try something like mutual masterbation, oral "sex"....

Does dry humping count? I once saw a vid on Xtube with this girl on top and she pretty much got right off but they were both wearing underwear. It was hot and looked like fun. Is that a no-no?

 

wouldn't dry humping count as sex with clothes??

 

Here's a thought.
Physicaly pleasuring each other to orgasm is sex.
Clothes on or clothes off, its still sex.
No matter what orifices are filled, its still sex.

I'm not advocating that position, but suggest that thinking about that position might give you clarity.

If for whatever reason you've decided to save yourselves for marriage, I see no value in deliberatly trying to get as close as possible to breaking that vow, without actualy breaking it. As I recall the Lord's prayer, it says "lead us not into temptation" it doesn't say "lead us not into sin". If its important to the two of you, lead yourselves not into temptation, even if you think that you won't pass through temptation into sin.

 

Hey MikeE, u hit on something that I earlier tried to impart and which all these kids seem to want to ignore. Sex is sex. I consider blowjobs and pussy licking to be sex.

My wife nearly crushed my head between her thighs and nearly broke my two fingers in her **** with screaming orgasms. That wasn't sex? Bill Clinton tried to argue "I did not have sex with that woman," because all Monica did was give him head in the Oval Office (gotta love him for that). But, most ppl thought he was playing word games because sex is sex.

What you can do before marrying is sit in a parlor, fully clothed except to show your faces and hands, reading Emily Dickenson novels. You can kiss on the porch as one of you leaves to go home, as long as the light is on, someones dad is watching you out of a side window and neither of you sticks your tongue inside the others mouth.

Or, you can give up on this unnatural game and strip down and go at it penis to vagina to tongue to cock to ****, licking, sucking and fucking like a couple of natural young ppl.

Sorry to rain on ur fantasy, but I lived in a world where reading Emily Dickenson in a chaparoned parlor was what we were expected to do. That is why we rebelled in the sexual revolution and declared free love the norm. You are trying to regress to abnormal again.

 

No, I'm not advocating a return to silliness.
I was sexually active before marriage and expect others to do what they choose. People with normal hormonal balances usually choose to be sexually active before marriage.

I borrowed from religious texts to point out that if one decides to not cross a line, it is foolish to try to get close to that line.

If the OP and his fiancee have decided to not cross the "sex" line, my advice to them (in support of them meeting their goal) is that they avoid the neighborhood of that line.

If my post was interpreted as recommending that others make the same decision as the OP and his girlfriend, then I expressed myself poorly.

But I do support the OP's right to make his own decision in this matter and am willing to give my advice as to how he can meet the standards that he and his lady have set for themselves.

 

I would recommend mutual masturbation. Also, take showers together and give each other baths. Sleep naked together.

 

waaaaait up you guys, how is sex defined?
sex is a process of combining and mixing genetic traits, often resulting in the specialization of organisms into male and female types (or sexes).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex

Are they mixing ane genetic traits by folling around? No right?
So, i have vague idea how its written in the Bible so please correct me if I am wrong. T
Doesn't it basically say, stay virgin until maried? So everything oral works. And than it says, that sex should be only for reproduction cause and not for fun right? If you plan to follow that that emnas you can only do it around twice a year

My last question is, isn't mastrubation kind of a sin?

 

What you are doing is confusing a scientific definition of "sex" with a cultural one. Cultural edicts are seldom based on science and ancient writings are seldom exact.

Again you are talking about cultural interpretation of "sin." In the Judeo/Christian/Moslem cultures masturbation is more or less considered sinful. This goes back to Onan spilling his seed on the ground rather than impregnating his dead brother's wife - hence the archaic term Onanism for masturbation or self-abuse. However, Rabi, it can be argued that God was mad at Onan for not following his order to impregnate the sister-in-law and not for his wasted seed. There are other cultures such as ancient Polynesian that embrace masturbation among the young as a release.

Which brings us back to the original prob of the guy who wants to follow someone's interpretation of the sinfulnes of premarital sex and find a legalistic way around it. This is splitting hairs to avoid the original intent of not engaging in "sex" by someone's definition - and my advice was to just don't do it and don't try redefining it to get around the original peity restrictions.

 

look dude; i think what everyone is trying to say is that ; anything you do to avoid having sex... is pretty much having sex.

i think you should explore your physical relationship before marriage. not necessarily sexual intercourse, but you two should defiantly be getting naked and be comfortable with each other. in terms of sexual satisfaction? well, everyone else has answered that for you mutual masturbation etc etc.

and Aniola- when we say 'sex' we mean 'sexual intercourse' .... not gender

 

But isn't what the ancient things based on? If you stikck it in its ment sex rite?
And if in christian cultures "mastrubation" is considered sin, thanit doesn't work.

if you put it atht way I have to agree

 

How can masturbation be a sin? That's so bullshit. I'm a christian, born christian and I'm still a virgin. No not because I'm following the no sex before marriage, it hasn't happened yet. The thing is, I don't really believe in the no sex before marriage, sex is natural, it's part of everyone's life. Should you don't do it because you're highly religious? Then don't do it but I honestly find this all ridiculous in my opinion.

 

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