psychedelic radiation

i love you

 

i think it's really... silly... to say "i don't believe in any higher power". i don't know. i'm too apathetic right now to try to explain why it's so silly. but i think it is.

well thats fine....i think its silly to believe in one. to each his own

 

hmm I think her point was (or if it was not, my point is) that "not believing" is still a spiritual, non-intellectual behaviour for it still delve deeply into belief, feed its existence from that higher power which was unbelieved.

science and logic never believes or not believes anything after all. and atheism surely has nothing to do with that. common misunderstanding.

I am convinced that there is no conscious creator or ruling deity above (or below) us (us being the cosmos) yet I am convinced that there are some abilities which we have lost, which allowed us to see the cosmos in its full glory without adding that bloated ego within the perspective; effectively blinding ourselves.

that pure perspective of our wise ancestors is either corrupted by commercial religions or sacrificed for strict, dogmatic science. often (ironically) both.

this is why we are here in fact we all sense and search for what we have lost along the way.

and this is why I opened this topic to discuss if there is such a thing as sharing the energies of an expanding mind, altered by a psychedelic substance.

shine on, this silly loves you sillies all !!!

 

Your awesome Prism.
Are you still going to the temple these days?
Or are you gone for good?
Im still involved with occaisional psychedelic
use, though I quit everything else, the
opiates being the biggest step for me.
I actually ate some magic mushrooms just
the other weekend :&

 

eshu, do you feel psychedelic radiation is due to a property of the drug itself, or because of a change in perception due to being immersed in psychedelic conversation?

 

well, i had a bunch of doubts and contradictions i couldn't work out, and after a few long talks with one of my favorite monks, he told me i should go and explore everything. because i couldn't accept that everything wasn't simultaneously true. so that's really what i've been doing. and i came back to alaska, so i haven't physically been able to go to the temple in a while. but i'm coming to the point where it naturally fits in as something true for me, instead of something in me knowing it's true and trying to force everything else out to make space for it. does that make sense? i've gotten to the point where it's more spontaneous love than it is structured ritual.





basically, my point is... okay, i'll explain it a little more now. my grandma is really into a course in miracles, and she kind of warps the point a bit i think, but her trip is that she created everything she's experiencing. i have no problem with that idea, if by saying "i created everything" "i" expands to mean all of us in all times. i think it does in her mind, which is cool. but to say, "no, there's no higher power, i, this ego, am the absolute, i have created everything i experience on a personal level" is kind of ignorant. because that's pretty much saying there is nothing new to learn or experience, you already know everything. nothing can surprise you. nothing outside yourself can affect you. and then you get hit over the head by a falling tree and you have to pretend you did it on purpose. and then if you say, "well, i don't believe that i created everything, i just believe there is no higher power that did"... do you see how that seems silly? even if that higher power is your parents, your society, your planet, your solar system, you have to admit it has control over you or else you have to say you have control over it. or you can just say you don't care, which i guess is atheism/agnosticism, but to me just seems apathetic and lazy ignorance.

the higher power could just be the fact that your body works without you consciously telling each part what to do. or that consciousness itself exists. or the fact that if the structure of this solar system were off by less than one percent, life would be impossible. if you spend any time at all learning about the way things work, you'll see that it's all so unlikely, and it's all working so perfectly. it's pretty hard to deny that, and that is the higher power. whether it's personal, impersonal, whether it has some goal in mind or is just going because there's nothing else for it to do... whether it's good, evil, or neither... that's a philosophical and religious thing. that's really something you figure out based on your own experience. but to deny any higher power at all... is just fuckin' silly.


but indeed, to each his own.

 

as I mentioned before, I feel that this may happen (if it really does happen) even with no substance after all. it should just be about, yes, 'a change in perception', and no, 'not due to psychedelic conversation'; if what you imply with "conversation" is vocal communication.

so, yes, I suggest the concept of some kind of telepathic synergy. 'we' all know that psychedelics may often lend us such a 'power'.

yet this may just as well happen with deep, collective meditation, I think.

and a plus; this subject feels to be related with the concept of aura. I've heard (and maybe sometimes felt) that some powerful auras of "enlightened" people can affect those around them. "maybe" in acid state we are just much more sensitive; emitting and recieving, effectively manifesting those altered states of our minds to those around us.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVeVCwI4VV0

this whole deal made me think of this video

 

I agree of course, Prism.
The ego is capable of much delusion.
Maya is a veil not so easily got around
since it does pretty much drape the
entire universe.

And yea, the natural function of the
body is amazing, some people are ignorant
of how much is involved.
But it is as amazing as how you say, if
the subatomic structure was over or under
by the smallest percentage of measurement,
suns would explode in seconds, and most
likely the universe would consist soley of
gas and ether.
Solids, liquids, and gases are very beautiful
and taken for granted, but still, even the wonders
of this life are but a pale reflection of the
astral bodies. ~

 

i looked it up, the chances of our solar system supporting life are one in one hundred billion billion.

i hate to be the person to say anything is for certain one way or the other, but when you look at everything closely, it's pretty hard to deny there's some design to it.

 

Yes you are right in my opinion.

Though lately, I have gotten so
close to God through meditations,
that when I have been talking to
people, I have been very demanding
and holier than thou.
And a good friend of mine pointed
this out and I felt very foolish.
She told me to get off my high horse.
And you know what? She's right.

But I was reading a book by Yogananda,
and he was talking about how one
time a man said to him that his guru makes
no sense.
And he replied "And you dont understand
God, either!"
So, I saw that even the greatest saints
have gone through periods of being
so in tune with God that they forget
their manners and open mindedness.

It's hard when you realize God and then
go back to face the rest of the world,
where people will even call you names
and insult you, and call you a liar for
telling of things that you know so
much to be the Truth.

I guess thats how it is though, easy
come easy go, right?

 

I think people's energy affect you all the time, we are always exchanging energy with the people around us.
I once went to a rave in a cave, it was my first one and I didnt even smoke, or had any alcohol or anything, just drank water. I spent from 10pm to 7am dancing and running around and giving people hugs and feeling so free and happy. There is this one guy who still doesnt believes me that I wasnt on e.
My best friend says that she smokes and I get high, I always get it all the time. Also I think that is why some people you dont even know or have talked to can bring you down and viceversa. Our energy is constantly affected by everything.

 

^^ yep, just what I was trying to say =)

 

i think its like a social adaptation to try and copy the mindset of people around you.

 

it's called vibes dog