The Carter III

Discussion in 'Hip-Hop and Rap' started by Makaveli_Reborn, Jul 3, 2008.

  1. Makaveli_Reborn

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    A classic. End of story....
     
  2. Makaveli_Reborn

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    Rock and roll classics meet hard core rap.

    It's a classic for real.
     
  3. MattB

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    yeah one of the best albums I've ever heard
     
  4. Makaveli_Reborn

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    "I like being misunderstood. Why?
    Cause I live in the suburbs,
    but I come from the hood.

    Bring the hook in.

    I'm just a soul whose intentions are good.
    Please lord don't let me be misunderstood."

    ____________________
    "Member when your pussy second husband tried to beat ya?
    Remember when I went into the kitchen and grabbed the cleava?
    He aint give a fuck, and I aint give a fuck either.
    He could see the devil.. see the devil in my features
    You could smell the ether"

    If you like rap that has original sound, buy Tha Carter III and you wont be dissapointed. Out of 16 tracks 14 are great and the other 2 are ok, in my opinion. It's honestly the highest quality rap release I've heard in over a year.
     
  5. bat for lashes

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    it's okay. Wayne always makes me giggle. Sometimes I think he just word vomits.. but I guess he's good at what he does.
     
  6. Makaveli_Reborn

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    His similes and metaphors are funny and numerous and one of the things that set him apart from other rappers. The overall sound though has to be the most original of any rap album released since Nas' 'Streets Disciple' or Chamillionaire's "The Sound of Revenge".
     
  7. bat for lashes

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    "Phone Home" is pretty.. out there.
     
  8. Coleosis

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    imma have to buy this when i get paid. I have a copy of it, but its bootlegged and has some obnoxious dude at the beginning of each song yelling "NEW MIX TAPES EVERY WEEK"
     
  9. Makaveli_Reborn

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    Haha. Yeah that would be annoying.

    And remember guys, "The next time you talk about Pac, Big, and Jay-Z, don't forget to mention Weezy, ba-by".
     
  10. ProggyMan

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    He's alright as g=far as mainstream Hip Hop goes. Production's average, the pop stuff is crap, he's pretty funny, a pretty good wordsmith. He's not the most skilled MC and his voice grates though. Pretty good, nowhere near a classic though.
     
  11. gaum

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    great album!
     
  12. Kroes420

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    It was fucking horrible.
    In all honesty.
     
  13. Makaveli_Reborn

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    You're from Canada. I doubt you guys have anybody better.

    Lyrically it's simple. I wont deny that. There isn't much in the way of complex lyrics or schemes, but the metaphors and similes are many and amazing. I've never heard the use of so many good, entertaining metaphors on one album.

    And the music..... the music and the beats are the most original of any rap album I've heard in years. The last one was Encore, which most people didn't like either.

    I think he took a leap away from the norm, and that's never a bad thing. When the dust settles this album will be his crowning achievement.
     
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    Funny, I've heard more good, entertaining metaphors in one song. Sorry, but you obviously don't know much about Hip Hop if you think the production on this or Encore is the least bit original. Fun, sure, original?
     
  15. PurpByThePound

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    ^No shit.
    Sure, Wayne has some good metaphors, but if you REALLY want metaphors/simile talk to the kings Common and Talib.

    Common seriously is a beast.
    "Old niggas I expose like Luke does hoes in videos
    With classic material, imperial and rugged like
    Got mag, but my slugs a mic
    You fake like a smile, like a hug I'm tight
    Skip ladies, this is rip a motherfucker night"

    Talib is just on a different plane
    " Japanese culture is like amazin
    Animation is like hair-raisin
    Kick selection got no limit
    Eatin seaweed, maybe one day I get with it
    But when I see weed I'm smokin
    Heh, I'm just jokin
    Really not though
    My homie Common told me, "Arigato"
    My art got no
    Boundaries like Pablo Picasso"
     
  16. ProggyMan

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    Or:
    I was sitting on my fire escape and I saw...
    sturdy bridges, decorated with dirty pigeons
    a vagabond begging for three pennies and a princess
    a junkie tourniquet surgeon urging the needle in
    a batty senior citizen flashing that awful teethless grin
    I saw a corner store merchant rest on a milk crate with a stog'
    a pierced nose, a model with a stalker, cheap hooker, jay walkers
    a table on a sidewalk with four old men slappin' dominos down
    a city, a village, a neighborhood, a ghost town
    I saw vandals catching tags and Puerto Rican flags
    I saw a pregnant woman on the verge of bursting (boom)
    I saw a blind man with a dog screaming 'someday I'll see it all'
    and then he sat down with his hammer and saw
    business men with multi-colored ties, cashmere checks
    a nazi with tattoos on his neck, a Vietnam war vet
    a Caucasian man with a limp and a cane, a pimp with his names
    a thug circus, a pack of shook tourists hugging their purses
    I saw freaks with rainbow streaks in dayglo hair
    a mother smackin' the grin off her child, replaced it with a stare
    a pothole, a storefront with a broken open sign
    a hole in the wall bar kicking drunks to the gutter, it's closing time
    I see a f**k up, a bum knuckle up with a taxi driver
    a squatter, a grandfather, an angry right-to-lifer
    I can see the roof garden on the apartment across the street

    and kick myself because somewhere along the way I lost my seeds
    I see a rat, a roach, a bat approach, a happy student
    a black man with a horn and a will to make you sit and listen to it
    I see a little girl on the corner with bubbles, braids and barrettes
    I see a teen mother with similak pacifier and regrets
    oh, a day turned stale, a hammer with a rusty nail, a failed marriage
    a universe of brick buildings slightly off balance
    a challenge, I see a chance to add real colors to my favorite palette
    raise my mighty mallet towards the gods and swing my talons
    I see a crack in the sidewalk
    a slide show of six civilians gripping bottles of gideon
    sitting inside bent meridian
    there's a fun house ooh, a sun spout
    spraying yellow beams above yellow back dreams
    and children in the hydrants
    tyrants(?), I see sirens
    the wall to the glamor standard
    a dead bird, a bent curb
    a bus stop of commuters waiting to have their souls towed off to work
    I seen the slap dash habits of bike messengers paws
    and hug that good leaf on the way to damaged packages, dependence
    oh my lord, I see bandwagons, all aboard
    a carnival amusement park where a heart is a luxury
    I see a gas galaxy huddled behind those pearly doors
    maybe I should sit up on my fire escape a little more
     
  17. ishikabe

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    It's the best garbage right now that is being released in the mainstream's ever steady flow of garbage.
     
  18. Makaveli_Reborn

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    Show me something underground that's better right now.

    Considering Wayne has more unpublished records than just about anybody I know, he's a very prominent, "underground" artist as well as releasing mainstream albums.

    I'm also an all around fan of hip hop, so I don't just listen to rap. I'd venture to say that there are maybe one or two artists in the underground scene that showcase a similar level of skill to Wayne, and I don't find any of them nearly as amusing.

    I've stated that there are songs on there that are far from impressive lyrically, the overall sound crushes anything in the mainstream and rivals anything being noted as an 'underground' release.

    Nobody can captivate both audiences as well as Weezy and this album further demonstrates that ability.

    Show me another album that is as popular in both markets and I will concede that Tha Carter III is garbage.

    If you can't provide atleast a handful of examples of better CURRENT releases, mainstream or undergound, then I'd say your lable of "garbage" is just you talking shit about something you really don't know much about.

    "Nigga I'm the shit, get the fuck out of my toilet"
     
  19. Makaveli_Reborn

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    Name one album that sounds anything like Encore or where anybody raps the kind of beats that Em does in that album.

    Just one. And I'll mail you $10.
     
  20. ishikabe

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    I've listened to most of the album.

    I said it was the best garbage being released in the garbage stream, but that doesn't mean it's bad. Just the best of the bad shit that's out there, if you get my point.

    Rap isn't my choice of music but I don't bash it constantly. Back when it was Dr Dre and company, I wouldn't turn the radio station if it was on.

    It's hard for rap to draw new people in when the only two acts are Lil Wayne and Soulja Boy.

    What I do know much about is that music is reflecting our society, which is free falling.
    I agree, that is a funny line.
     

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