Hey all. I've been out of touch lately for many reasons, but I just thought I'd open a thread about getting opiates from hospitals/ER's etc. As someone who has a genetic disease that lends a certain amount of legitimacy to any ER visit I make, I find it extremely easy to get opiates from doctors whenever it is necessary (or desirable, haha). I am currently an inpatient at my local hospital for some lung complications inherent to my condition, but I figured, why not be as comfortable as possible while I am here? Therefore I've worked my joint pain into the mix (which does exist, but is frankly, rather minimal) in order to recieve 6mg IV Morphine every 3hrs, with a provision that I can get two extra doses a day if needed. All I had to do was say I was in pain, and let the doctors come up with an explanation. They are so sympathetic that they actually offered me a PCA pump (you know, Patient Controlled Administration, what you get after a surgery) which I declined because then I would have to get a lot of smaller doses instead of a few big doses, and of course the big doses have a better rush. My question is, do other people do this? or are most people just not familiar enough with the health care system / too worried about being caught scamming to do so? The simple fact is, if you have ANY documented condition that could be said to cause pain in ANY circumstance then going to an ER is really an almost foolproof plan, and getting admitted....well, I find that I get totally spoiled while I am an inpatient because the doctors figure if they are monitoring my useage, they can give me more than I'd ever be given to take home with me. Any other fun scam/partial scam stories from you other medical/extra-medical users? -V
love opiates as much as the next guy but scamming doctors out of pain medication is something i've never done. just seems a bit scummy, but who am i to judge.
Many people do it but you're only hurting yourself in the end, because once your without the relief does the true pain set in Good luck, and enjoy it while it lasts!
Thats shady to say the least, if you get off the street thats cool if you need to. But, as a someone who has true chronic pain, why would you help to make it harder for us who really need it? I went through hell to get what I consider adequate at best meds for my back pain and its "seekers" that ruin it.If your hurting then have at it, but realize that it hurts in more ways than one later on.
Thankfully, I've been able to avoid hospitals most of my life, unlike my little brother(19y/o). I feel bad for the kid, and he never takes my advice on how to make the best of his situations. My poor little brother has been rushed to the hospital several times, from getting cracked in the forehead with empty beer bottle, to being so drunk in a club he actually slipped and cracked open the back of his head, and being so high, drunk, and barred out(xanax) thinking he's spiderman trying to climb balconies and falling and breaking his leg. Theres a couple more hilarious instances that I already lost count. So anyways, I always try to convince him to make the best out of his trips to the doctor, but he refuses because he doesnt like opiates even he never tried them, only tramadol which he was prescribed for his broken leg at prescribed dosages. I told him that he could make MONEY out of it, just tell the doctors what I tell him, and be persistent, and he could walk out with a bottle of magic, or his case, money because I told him I would buy them off him. Example: The last incident where he broke his leg, he was prescribed 50mg tramadols. He would go in for a check-up with his doctor like every week or two. I told him all he had to say was the bs tramadols aint working and that he was in a lot of pain. He's not too bright, but he said something like that and got 60mg codeine, which is just as worthless. I told him to keep saying the same shit every week until he ended with vicodin or percocet, and he would be able to sell those if he wanted. But he's too dumb and hardheaded to think like that. If it were me in a situation like that, just like V, who have the mental acuteness to be able to manipulate doctors, I would walk out with fentanyl patches or dilaudid scripts LMAO! I guess Im lucky that I havent had to go 2 the hospital in years... But if i ever do, omg Im gonna make sure I make the best of it. The doctors are gonna get scammed gangsta, Im gonna make up so much bs until I get what I want.
^^^He does have reasons for his meds.. The guy has been through hell and I feel for him.. It cracks me up when people blame seekers for them not able to get proper pain treatment.. If you have a legit reason for Pain Management therapy then you shouldn't have any problems.. It took me my second try to find the right Pain Management Doctor to treat my pain.. And I'm not blaming seekers for my first experience.. If you have legit documantion like MRI's and what not the Doctor will treat you accordingly.. So if your having problems then you probably don't need Pain Management.. Also hey V hope your feeling better and go ahead and try to enjoy your stay.. And take whatever you can.. I had surgery 3 weeks ago and I used the Pump for 24hrs and they dosed the hell out of me.. It made my stay more enjoyable
Yeah, I was a bit harsh and do apologize to Verisimilitude :cheers2: Yes, I got all my x-rays,MRI's and got my meds after signing a contract.It was just hell and the Specialist was a pain and refuses to rx opiates and made my PCP decide whether or not to let me have them.I live in a midsize town with very few PM's(all focus on injections, I had a very bad steroid reaction last year so no go on those) and recently a shite load of pharmacy robberies that have made all docs very sketched out.
Hey Natas, Don't worry about it, I totally understand where you are coming from. I broached the subject without thinking about the fact that, as you acurrately said, many people do scam doctors and make it more difficult for people who REALLY need relief to get it consistently. Like Oxyrisin said however, I do have legit medical problems and chronic pain, I am just not above using my problems to make life a little more fun for myself, especially if I am going to be spending 2 weeks in the hospital with nothing to do. I am sorry about your problems with your doc, the fact is that there ARE way too many people out there who scam doctors, and who do it poorly, and that is what makes it so hard for you to get what you need. Robberies don't help either, that really sucks. I really hope that your PM becomes a more smooth process in the future. >> The reason I brought this up in the first place was because I am always interested to hear about other people's experiences, and I am of the opinion that if people who ARE going to try to scam doctors into getting pain meds would just do it intelligently, the legitimate PM patients wouldn't have it so tough. Plus, to be honest, when I wrote my original post I was really whacked out on my morphine and wasn't thinking about the other connotations of my post. Hope that clears things up, maybe we could turn this thread into a more pleasant place where people can just post whatever hospital experience they have had with opiates, positive or negative. I am always happy to share some of my experience with people who need proper PM (Oxyrisin knows a lot about this as well, and has been dealing with chronic pain for much longer than I am - he is a wealth of good information on how to work with doctors and what NOT to do). Be well, -V
Oh, and Oxy, Thanks, I will. Lungs are getting healthier by the day, and they have me on a PCA pump now which is nice - Steady 3mg/hr morphine drip plus 1mg demand dose up to every 8 minutes. Hope all is well with you, and that you are enjoying the relative good weather of the summer months. -V
I'm doing better, I had back surgery a couple weeks ago.. I'm off work for another 3 weeks and the weather is awesome.. I was on that PCA Pump for 21 hours and they gave me as much as I wanted .I couldn't believe it.. I didn't even sleep that night cause I didn't want to miss hitting the button haha.. Hope your feeling better to Take care
