X vs. Lucy

Discussion in 'MDMA - X' started by goodvibes83, Jul 7, 2008.

  1. DroneLore

    DroneLore h8rs gon h8, I stay based

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    I want to get some molly and go to a trip-hop concert. *sigh* dreaaaamsss
     
  2. The manticore

    The manticore Member

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    lol yeahhhh that would be sweet
     
  3. raoul duke420

    raoul duke420 Member

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    I would def have to side with Lucy one this one , Love the electric LSD feeling and the whole trip is always a blast. Nothing but good memories for me with lucy.
     
  4. navajas

    navajas Member

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    acid days r over, its ecstasy and ketamines time now....
     
  5. MarkW1

    MarkW1 Member

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    We'll see about that. Not that this is means much, but look at how many posts are in the lsd forum vs. the mdma forum.
    I wouldn't be surprised if acid made a comeback. And some argue that ecstasy's days have already passed, but I'm with you and say its ecstasy's time.
     
  6. navajas

    navajas Member

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    well if ecstasys days have passed u still got ketamine ;)
     
  7. PsychMyke

    PsychMyke Senior Member

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    IF MDMA was as inert as LSD i would probably lay off the acid and switch to primarily MDMA. Ive taken ALOT of dose and im reaching the point where i dont feel the need to take it anymore. But that being said, MDMA is a well documented neurotoxin...sooo lsd it it.
     
  8. Colimon

    Colimon Cheesus Christo

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    To me, ecstacy hasn't really given me the sense of a meaningful experience, other than bonding. Bonding is great on it, and you can get along with a lot of people. Other than that, I just didnt feel the insight that phycadelics give me. But, that's just my opinion.
     
  9. goodvibes83

    goodvibes83 Senior Member

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    well aside from maryjane, ex was my first drug, perhaps this is why it holds a special place in my heart. When I first started I was doing it a lot, far too much than can be good for the human brain. Anyway I wasn't gaining much from it in the beginning, only learning good dance moves that carried on into my sober dancing abilities.

    Basically I have done it far too many times to count, but on 2 occasions, perhaps a few more, I had really in depth converstaions with people. And on one of these nights I was encountered by something, I don't know it was. It was nameless, odorless, colorless, I didn't see it, but I felt it. Whatever it was it entered my brain, through the light of the full moon above my head and carried itself throughout my entire body. Leaving out most of the details because what happened is for me and those i trust (keeping in mind most wont believe me), but that night I learned. Both through discussing metaphysics with my friends, but also AND more so through the penetration of whatever thath something was.

    Now...its been awhile since I started with ex, and obviously I've flown with lucy on many occasions. Now, again I am at the point where knowing the number of times is impossible. Last year, and recently it has been easier to find good lucy as opposed to molly or any decent rolls. Hell I love lucy! I've had some epiphanies about life with her, but nothing life changing. I've even spent one of the best trips of my life, all by myself. It was fantastic, but I didn't gain anything from it. Perhaps I didn't try. I should have, because I am one to belive that drugs are to be used for more than mere recreation. Even when I don't get life changing epiphanies I do grow from lucy. But just two weekends ago...I was on some amazing lucy. I was at a festival dancing to a band I didn't really know, and were with my friends who were all sober. I wasn't at a place where I could talk, because my mind was going at me so strong. And I did come to a sort of conclusion about life and colors...and why it sounds like a stupid thought...it has carried on.

    I intend to look harder in my next encounters with lucy. But as of now I still hold to molly yielding my most enlightening experience.---though, was it the Molly...or was it something I would have received without? this is a new and relevant question I have...The only reason I tend to not believe this is the case, is because everytime I roll the things i leanred that night (though present sober) come out 100 fold...

    i'm glad to hear preferences, but no one is talking about enlightening experiences anymore...
     
  10. goofydrummer

    goofydrummer Senior Member

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    My most life-changing was from the combination-you can't beat that. Doses by themselves do provide much more insight for me about human nature its almost like the opposite of mushroom enlightenment for me. Mushrooms make me hate people because we fucked up the world. Acid makes me love people even though they fucked shit up because we're all products of our surroundings. E makes me just happpppy but can help me gain further insight when added to mushrooms like it makes it similar to the enlightenment from L.
     
  11. wutthe4k

    wutthe4k Mr. Mojo Risin'

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    my most meaningful and insightful experience took place on both x and lucy at the same time =]

    that trip truly did chance my life. i was never the same again and i'm glad it happened. i wish i could go back and experience it again.
     
  12. does2

    does2 Member

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    all i care to say is:
    mdma gave me the closure i needed to deal with my father's death.
    i dont wanna go into depth, but i have used my share or L-25, mdma and psilocybin.
    and for the record, i prefer mushrooms over them all:D
     
  13. StonerBill

    StonerBill Learn

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    Very different drugs - psychedelics join along with serotonin to open your mind.
    mdma pumps out your natural serotonin and brings it out to party so that you get opened up but its got a lot more to do with where the serotonin naturally is. however, with lsd for example, it might influence different neurons regardless of their place in the person's developed serotonin system.
    These sorts of differences make the drugs similar on some aspects (stimulation of serotonergic system) but completely different in others.
     
  14. goodvibes83

    goodvibes83 Senior Member

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    yeah i mean i understand all that, but I'm talking experience wise...
     
  15. wutthe4k

    wutthe4k Mr. Mojo Risin'

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    well what exactly are you asking?

     
  16. goodvibes83

    goodvibes83 Senior Member

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    I am askig if anyone has had any life changing thoughts/experiences on mdma. if you look through the forums plenty of people discuss how lucy has changed their lives, i on the other hand had my most life changin experience with molly. i am interested if anyone else has had such an experience on mdma. I realize the differences between the chemicals and their affects on the human body, but I am asking about experiences...make sense? i think its clear from my very first post in this thread. likewise, beseides you answered the question in the first place

    :cheers2:
     
  17. StonerBill

    StonerBill Learn

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    Heaps of ppl have revelations on mdma, i didnt realise someone disputed that. As to whether E or L is more life-changing... thats up to the individual. a drug cant necessarily change your life. plenty of ppl have no significant experience that changed their life while on either of these drugs. Other people come out of the experience and say it has changed them. All drug experiences that are rememberable add to our concept of the space our mind inhabits, and this to me is something to carry for life.

    And i dont think life changing experiences can really be graded or ranked, they are all up there, it is taking a stretch for us to assume we could know which moments changed our lives anyway. But then to rank them seems to stink of our preference amongst life changing events and not the objectively most-influential among them.

    So i would put mdma side by side with psychedelics in terms of the potential for apparently supreme states of mind/awareness.

    But due to the difference in function, there are certain differences that make mdma much less clear and direct, and thus while it can serve as a path to enlightenment, it is not quite the same as psychedelic influence.
     
  18. navajas

    navajas Member

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    I dnt think e is life changing due to the fact that when im rollin i can put all pieces of the puzzle called life in there correct places, the feeling of oneness with everything is so euphoric, however when i comedown, i get so depressed due to the lack of serotonin that i cnt carry with me any good thoughts and insight from my trip, i feel my mind is faded, i cnt concentrate n i fill myself with negative thoughts for a whole week after. with lsd its different, everything u go through during the trip u carry with u after, whether its bad or good, the comedown from psychs is due to the fact that u come back to reality thats it, couple of bong hits u go to sleep n wake up the next day changed... btw stonerbill i really respect u as a person n consider u one of the intelligent people here filled with insight, knowledge n bright ideas... ur intellectual n ur thoughts r deep, id love to knw what ur favourite 5 drugs r lol...
     
  19. Marlyn

    Marlyn Member

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    Why the fuck is this guy even on this forum?? lol
     
  20. wutthe4k

    wutthe4k Mr. Mojo Risin'

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    ^ lmao that guys a fruitcake
     

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