looking for commune please help:(

Discussion in 'Introduce Yourself!' started by alibiasello, Jul 18, 2008.

  1. alibiasello

    alibiasello Member

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    hi im ali. im 18. im looking for a hippie commune to live at. im currently in charleston, south carolina. i have had no luck finding any radical hippie free sprirted places where you can just relax and live and be one with yourself and nature. please help me if you can. im frustrated and tired:(
     
  2. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    umm thats because most if not all successful communes function on a self sustaining level..
    there is no such thing as a place where you can "just relax and be one with yourself"..
    how is anything going to get done if everyone is just relaxing?

    no all the successful communes i know of have stringent work requirements so as to make sure they do not fail as a community..

    so essentially your seeking a place that does not exist except in your own mind..perhaps you can do as the multitudes who have come through here before you with the same problem have done,,. dream of one day forming this utopia you dream of,talk about it incessantly,come up with all kinds of schemes that will never work to get free land and everything else you might need and continually attack those that point out the flaws in your plan till you get pissed off and leave....

    thats about all the advice i can give ya on how to find your nice relaxing commune..

    oh,,BTW,you should visit the communal living forum here,plenty of informative information there..

    and welcome to the forums.. :)
     
  3. jimmyjoe1

    jimmyjoe1 toker Lifetime Supporter

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    Hello & Welcome to the forums. hope you find what you'r looking for .
    PEACE,
     
  4. shoreline420149

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    geez talk about jumping to conclusions hillbilly it was a simple question.. though alittle rough, he is right its pretty laborious to live in a commune, but the outcome at the end of the day when you are able to relax is well worth it with peace of mind.
     
  5. alibiasello

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    indeed the hippihillbilly sounds like a very ignorant human. i know that you cant just go out without being self sustaining..it was implied. but im sure there is a place out there where ppl are making a living in the wild and enjoying their lives in nature..and thats what i need to find, im not in my own little world, im not dreaming, im suffering, because i know how i want to live my life and thats not in society..please do not post anything for me to read that is not helpful, thanks
     
  6. CloudFlower

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    Try ic.org
    Welcome to the forums and happy posting :)
     
  7. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    no im not ignorant.
    in fact when it comes to communal living i am quite the opposite.
    ive spent most of my adult life involved in the communal living lifestyle and currently do live a self sustaining lifestyle in and amongst nature..

    yes there are very successful self sustaining communities in america,however i assure you when inquiring about coming to those communities if you put in your inquiry that your "looking for a place to just relax and be yourself",,there not going to give you the time of day..

    we have spent nearly 20 years opening our doors to those who say they want to live this lifestyle.. none are still here.
    its not just us who see the lack of understanding of what it takes to live this lifestyle as a major problem with those seeking this way of life as a alternative lifestyle,i have heard the same complaint from people in communities all across america..

    if you consider 70 to 90 hour work weeks relaxing with nature,then i stand corrected,if not,then you havent a clue what it takes to live a self sustaining lifestyle.

    we love our way of life and wouldnt trade it for the world,nor will we ever compromise it again by allowing someone who doesnt understand what it takes to become part of what we have here ever again.
    once again,we are living your dream,i know what it takes..
    perhaps its you that is the ignorant human being??
     
  8. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    btw,if you just want a taste of the lifestyle,i see your in south carolina,we are in the mountains of georgia outside ellijay,you are more than welcome to come for a visit and see what it takes to live this lifestyle..
    who knows,you may find this is where you belong..

    here is a link to a buncha photos of our place,our lifestyle,the folks who have came through here over the last few years etc.etc.

    http://www.kodakgallery.com/feelfreefarmproject

    if your interested let me know and we can continue this discussion..
     
  9. TheSongRemainsTheSam

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    "perhaps you can do as the multitudes who have come through here before you with the same problem have done,,. dream of one day forming this utopia you dream of,talk about it incessantly,come up with all kinds of schemes that will never work to get free land and everything else you might need and continually attack those that point out the flaws in your plan till you get pissed off and leave...."

    I know the type.
     
  10. Greedy Capitalist

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    allibiasello, it sounds like you are looking to live in an indian reserve?
    I for one am not living amongst nature. I'm afraid of nature. but if you like nature travel time.
    you might like amish town?
    I never heard of "communes" do they exist?
    what do people do there?
    OK, obviously they exist: tell me about these places. I mean, they don't sound like anyplace I'd want ta live but it really sounds interesting. do they work? I mean those communes?
     
  11. alibiasello

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    well with 90hr work weeks you still find the time to post your unimportant blabbering to me when ive said i dont care to read it, i can only imagine what it takes to be a part of a commune, but thats not what i put this post up for, i put this up to find one where i can start living in nature and some peace. ive never lived on a commune before so yeah i dont know what it takes to run one, but that doesnt mean i cant learn and that doesnt mean i wont try to find one. so keep it to yourself and ill be on my way, as i said before, if you cant help me dont waste your time posting..i dont want to read it. your just another bump in the road that i must run right over to find what i am ultimately looking for, i dont need you to try to discourage me or "teach" me, im sure there are others out there with a kinder heart than you. leave me be
     
  12. Son of Peace

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    Well you and I are in the same boat my man. I've been dreaming of finding a commune as well for several years now. The closest one to me is the farm but I can't seem to find out if they still accept new members in or not. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
    Anyway welcome to the forums man. Hope u find what you're looking for, an' yeah the communal living forums is the place to go for some answers. Oh hippyhillbilly, what can you tell me about ur commune?
     
  13. Spirit Wynd

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    Right on there Hillbilly... it's great to see more people wanting a commune, but many only like the idea of it, and have no clue what it takes to succeed. And really need a heads up about it. He wasn't harsh, just truthful...and from chatting with his partner, he's sick of the many freeloaders that visited his place.
    Being a naturalist and survivalist I know it takes work, learning, preparing and many efforts to be one with nature.
    Unless you want to relax under a tree or by a creek with a book, or smoke if that's what you do, then a day thing is fine.

    There are many commune's just starting and could use your help... it's not slave labor, but if you eat their food and use their resources, then its only fair to give respect and earn your way. Once there's enough people and the place gets organized, then less work for everyone.

    And for those who were offended by whats written and attacked the reply, good luck being accepted in a commune... you need to be more open minded than that. Drop the expectations and try to see things as they are, and learn... you'll gain wisdom for life, better that than the ignorance you've already shown us.

    Peace and Respect,
    Spirit Wynd
     
  14. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    yes there are many communes just starting out,,take for example the one that the folks started a thread about in communal living,,in fact i believe alibiasello responded in that thread..

    they require a 8500 dollar buy in.. that is another cold hard reality about communal living.. almost all established communes require you to not only work during your probationary period,but also require you to pay a fee during that period..that policy is due to the same reasons i dont sugar coat what i type on here.
    people come saying they want to become part of the community and then contribute little or nothing to the community and thus become a drain on said community..

    many require a lump sum buy in as the one the folks are forming in missouri are requiring.
    the idea that you can just go and become part of a community isnt realistic..

    another thing about communities just starting out is growing pains,,lots of turmoil is often associated with a new community forming,.. im sure cloud flower would agree..;)

    as far as the hours i work and computer time.. number one,i said 70 to 90 hours a week. usually somewhere in between,but sometimes things must get done and its on the high end,other days the weather doesnt permit and its on the low end..
    even on the high end,thats only a little more than 12 hours a day.. allowing 7 hours for sleep that still leaves 5 hours a day for free time. so yes i have time during breaks and such for the computer..

    no one is trying to discourage you alibiasello. i am merely attempting to have you take your rose colored glasses off and see things for what they are..

    son of peace,we are not and have never been a commune. we have always considered ourselves a way station of sorts,a place for those searching but not quite sure for what to come and get away from babylon,a place for folks that have nowhere else to go,a place for folks to start anew..

    that being said we have had as many as 13 people here,we have had folks stay for as long as 2 years..so in that respect we are very much part of the communal living lifestyle.
    if one does there part they are welcome to stay indefinitely.most decisions are made by council unless we deem the consensus to not be in the best interest of the land then we override it..
    you will find that in most communities as well. there is almost always a clause that states the elders have final say..

    currently we are about 85% self sustaining. and with each passing year we inch closer to being 100%..
    thats really about all ill say here on our place as alibiasello seems to have a chip on there shoulders towards anything i say and i wouldnt want them to think i was hijacking there thread..

    i guess i should have taken the truth and smothered it so deep in whipped cream,chocolate sauce,and what ever else i could find that was syrupy sweet so that the truth became a wonderful shining example of a dream that does not exist therefore a bald face lie..
    well my apologies to alibiasello,,once again,no one is trying to discourage you,but im not going to lie to you just to say what it is that you wish to here..

    the offer still stands,if youd like to come and see what this lifestyle is all about your more than welcome..
    just leave that chip on your shoulder where your at.. ;)
     
  15. Son of Peace

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    Well I for one am interested. Contact me on pm hillbilly if u find the time. Thanks.
     
  16. rainbowgeek

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    I just have to chime in on this thread. I replied to the one alibiasello started in Communal Living too, though her reply didn't make any sense, like she didn't really read my post.

    I have an incredible amount of empathy for hippiehillbillie's perspective. I live on a scene that is definitely an actual forming commune (the rare kind of a Rainbow flavor that does not "require" anything, at least not yet) and when I see posts like alibiasello, I hesitate quite a bit. I post things intended to challenge, because being in our community takes quite a bit of real work, and I don't just mean digging and gardening.

    I mean internal work, really looking at your behaviors, your culture, your beliefs, and REALLY LISTENING to what EVERYONE has to say, even if you don't like it, since the things we don't want to hear are often the most important for us to hear, since they are the ones that we know are true. Our place is not like HHB's, since we haven't achieved ANYWHERE NEAR 85% self sufficiency yet, although we are working towards it, and most of the hippies there DO NOT EVEN work the four hours a day we have set as our guideline! Intentional Community requires commitment and personal responsibility!

    So when I see posts by 18 year olds that say they are looking to escape Babylon, I don't always reply with a come on by, since we have quite a few immature and irresponsible young people already! Not that I'm saying this sister is necessarily that, though nothing in her posts have led me to believe otherwise.

    Joshua of the Reading Rainbow Tribe
     
  17. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    im not only speaking from my experience.. im also speaking from what ive learned from the multitudes of folks who have come through here that have lived or visited communes all across the country.. i am also speaking from what ive learned researching assorted communes ive been told about.

    and rainbow geek,, your young,,i didnt get fed up till i passed 40.. ;)

    if your like me,,i left home at 15 and because of that rainbow is the only family i know.im just tired of fucking around here,,its high time to get things done..
    yours will come,till then be patient with the kidz.. wasnt that long ago you were one yourself.. ;)

    son of peace,,i cant P.M. you,,
    our Email is hillydilli@yahoo.com
    feel free to contact us there..
     
  18. rainbowgeek

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    I believe it! I have a long way to Go! Already, I see signs of what age can bring. On our land, those (few) in their 30s and 40s are consistently harder workers, more responsible hippies than the lot of us 20-somethings! I pray we can grow fast enough to keep them all from getting fed up like you, HHB!

    I have an appreciation for what you've gone through to bring you to where you're at now.

    Love and Light,
    Joshua
     
  19. JethBroh

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    Welcome
     
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