Are you guys ready for $6 gas in 18 months?

fuck it i just wont drive

 

you shouldnt be driving while under the influence of all those drugs anyway.

 

lol yeah i guess

 

i ride my bike with no handlebars B] well with a bike all your wasting away is calories and maybe even earning a tan.

 

i can ride my bike with no handle bars
with no handle bars with no handlebars

 

i knew that corn was trouble since the beginnin'!

 

As far as high gas prices affecting the outsourcing of jobs--I don't know.What I do know is if 2 things happened-------1.deporting all illegal aliens and(stiff penalties for anyone that hires them,rents an apartment to them etc.2.If the government heavily ,and I mean very heavily taxed big businesses for every employee outsourced,and gave tax breaks for keeping jobs domestically there would be SO many good high paying jobs in the US.---------The one positive thing I see about high gas prices is it will shake up an ignorant American public,maybe wake some people up as to how bad a shape the US is in now in many areas.And face it when it comes to being ignorant,many Americans lead in that area.

 

Do illegal aliens tend to have "good high paying jobs" in America?
I thought they tended to have low payed menial jobs.


I don't think it is fair to compare the state of America to the cost of gas (oil).
As every country that uses gas have been suffering from high gas prices for the past 3 years, they (prices) have slowly been creeping up that long (well they have where I am living anyway).

Please don't say:"well actually I don't know anything about oil prices per se or the mechanisms for how the price rises and falls". Not unless you want to make me laugh again. I remember the conversation we had about Zimbabwe, a week or so ago.

 

Odon,the very jobs illegals have whether menial or not,the only reason companies hire them is because they can pay them far less than they could pay an American citizen.By not having illegal aliens,it would literally double salaries even for the most menial of jobs.So by paying a fair wage,all these jobs would be done by citizens as always has been in the past.(And prices would not go up because of it).That in turn would also raise salaries for non-menial jobs.--As far as high gasoline prices,I'm not saying that is a cause of alot of Americas problems.

 

i saw a hispanics check friday from where i work..
it was 2497 dollars..yes that was for 5 days.

damn lazy mexicans and there low paying menial labor jobs..

 

Wtf lode, are you on crack. Is the rice and other food shortages good too, to teach people to eat less?

Nothing good comes from paying 6$ for a gallon a gas. You get poorer, assholes get richer. It screws the working class over hard and limits us to going to a dirty ass theme park or sitting at home watching TV instead of actually going places and seeing things.

But i guess if you like getting sodomized....

 

poor working people just can't afford the gas to get jobs. and some people are choosing between food today or gas in their car to get to work tomorrow, if they even have a car. and many places just plain DON'T have public transport like they should.

i like moderately high prices, to get people to think about energy usage and such, but the oil in other countries isn't so expensive because of market prices, it's taxed into extremity. ours is not. our money is going directly to oil companies. theirs is going to infrastructure. so not only do we pay higher gas prices, we ALSO pay the taxes seperately. so that's not a fair argument for the raising of our gas prices to match the rest of the world.

 

Mmmm I not so sure it would increase the pay at the higher or lower end of the spectrum. And i'm not so sure it would alter the pay in the midle either, to be quite honest. I think pay would stay the same, but more jobs would be sent abroad. We have a supposedly "fair pay" in the form of a "minimum wage" - which is pretty shit.
We still have the same issues as you guys have.

I'm not quite with you regarding the gas prices I don't think.

 

How did it compare to a non Hispanic doing the same Job?
How menial was it?
Was he an illegal alien?

 

America's problems are mainly rooted in a cultural attitude of entitlement. Yes, high gas prices are robbing us of our livelihood BUT they are doing so because as a whole we're allowing it to happen.

An attitude that the world owes us something makes us not involve ourselves in the political forces that are forging an economic siphon that is draining our resources. Part of why the economy did so well during the 50's is that the people had lived through the great depression and knew first hand what it was like to not have food and shelter. They had experienced first hand the value of forging a relationship with the people around them and cultivating a support system. Poverty was was a sensory experience- it was part of their memory, it had a personal meaning and wasn't just some fucking term used in the newspapers to describe some other people. It was real.

We are several generations removed from that and very few people today know what it's like to have absolutely nothing. We've been brought up by well meaning parents who wanted us to have it better than them but in doing so they have inadvertently created a cultural attitude that we are owed something- as a whole we've lost the connection that used to exist between hard work and social and financial stability. The truly working class has been shaken down- mesmerized by a consumer marketplace that offers all manner of shiny trinket to spend frivolous cash on that would be better saved toward the purchase of a home or retirement. Clever advertisers have figured ways to make us believe that these toys are essential to life... and to free us up to play, the food industry manufactures fast and convenient products that are tasty bits of slow poison- sowing seeds to a money garden that pharmaceutical giants will reap the harvest of in a couple decades as artificial sugars, colors, and preservatives burn out our organs, clog our arteries, and ignite cancers that will likely "liquidate" us before we retire and start collecting government entitlement checks.

Meanwhile, we sit on our fat and expanding asses playing video games, burp, and bitch about gas prices. For eight years our commander-in-chimp has pledged to ens our "addiction to oil" but the government has tightened oil's stranglehold on us by doing absolutely nothing. Have we as a people called them on it? No. So it must follow that we're ok with $3 and $4 per gallon prices DESPITE THE FACT that we bitterly complained when the price surpassed the $2 per gallon mark. It can further be assumed that $5 and $6 per gallon will be ok as well... and $6 is little more than a gateway to $7 and $8 and so on...

Shelling out more than a grand to heat your home for a few weeks? Oil ceo's couldn't care less... and don't expect your representative to give a damn either- they make enough money with their big salaries and investments in among other things, petroleum so they're all set for life. While we've all held ourselves mesmerized by one glowing idiot box or another, the government of the people, by the people, and for the people has been transformed into a government of the corporations, by the corporations, and for the corporations and we, the money garden- who exist solely as a corporate convenience, are free to work, pay our taxes, vote for the pre-selected list of their candidates, and shut the fuck up. Economic catastrophe is likely the only thing that will snap us out of it. The problem is that we'll be too busy in-fighting to take our rage out on the money and power class that has been systematically robbing us for the past few decades. Chances are they'll be long gone anyway.

 

the commodity traders have quite a bit to do with increasing gas prices.

 

Quite true... and so has the industry's calculated restriction of refining capacity creating artificial supply crises... helping to furnish justification for speculators to drive the commodity price even higher. It's criminal price manipulation done transparently and the government does nothing because so many that we elect owe their personal fortunes in large part to investments in oil.

They are criminals criminals criminals.

 

there all legal as far as there papers say,,so who knows whether there actually legal or not..thats pretty much standard anymore,they all have D.L.'S,green cards(which are actually pink) etc.. who knows if there forged or real.. not i..
they get paid the same wage as i do and work double the hours,therefore make double the cash..
we do construction and DO NOT work by the hour,we are paid for what we do,and yes its a very physically demanding job,especially to make the kind of money they make..
i can also add,they make my life easier cause they do the tougher jobs,although it is in the same field of work..

 

Right, so your problem is?

 

i dont have one except for when people assume they drive wages down and work for nothing..
its completely untrue. they work for the same wages as anyone else and harder at it.. that is why they are used so heavily in the construction field..they can be relied on to do the job in a timely manner and they dont complain if unexpected things complicate what they have to do..
i admire there work ethic and i really dont care if there legal or not..
i know just as many red blooded americans who work under the table (pay no income tax)as i do hispanics.. i think folks should quit stereotyping them and get the fuck over it..

my comment was addressed to the stereotypes i read in the previous posts..