immunizations?

Discussion in 'Parenting' started by ohmmama, Jul 23, 2008.

  1. ohmmama

    ohmmama Member

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    so i dont know a lot about this issue but a lot of people on here seem to have strong opinions. why wouldnt you immunize your child?
     
  2. HippyFreek

    HippyFreek Vintage Member

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    ************DISCLAIMER: This choice was made by me for my family. In no way am I insinuating that those who vaccinate are bad parents. You've done the research as well as I, and made the best decision for your family. I don't judge. Namaste.*******



    I didn't vaccinate my daughter. But she's immunized everyday. :) Sorry, it's a silly distinction, but an irky one for me.

    Moire is over two years old. She's never had a shot. She's been sick a handful of times, only one ear infection, nothing requiring medication beyond a fever-reducer, no hospital visits, nothing drastic or life-threatening.

    I chose to not vaccinate, because through countless hours of research and discussion, I couldn't understand how introducing formaldehyde, gluteraldehyde, several forms of aluminum, raw egg, detergent, aborted fetus cells, monkey DNA, traces of mercury, and "dead" virus would help her develop a strong and healthy immune system.

    Diseases, as far as I could see from census reports and other documents, were on the decline before vaccinations were introduced. Better sanitation, better nutrition, and advanced medical knowledge all account for this. Beyond that, most of these diseases are only truly fatal if you have an impaired immune system, are elderly, malnourished, or otherwise compromised. Most of them, young children fight off with maybe up to two weeks of fever, discomfort, rash, and other illness before gaining lifelong immunity. Vaccinations ---maybe--- will give you immunity for 10 years, at best. Some diseases, like chicken pox, are designed for you to get them and get immunity as a child. Getting chickenpox as an adult can become life-threatening. The chickenpox vaccine would wear off by adulthood, leaving you vulnerable to more serious complications. Unless you vaccinate again, filling your body with more toxins.

    This wasn't a light or rash decision for me and my husband. We toiled for months over this decision. My husband's aunt is permanently parapalegic due to polio she suffered as a child, in the 1940s. It took a lot of convincing for my husband to even consider not vaccinating. Neither of us regret this decision.

    There are other ways to boost immunity. If there is illness going around, we give M lots of Vitamin C, Echinacea, and up her water intake to help flush disease from her system. She gets more rest, we don't expose her to undue stress. She eats a relatively healthy diet for a child in this country, with minimal processed foods, lower amounts of sugar, lots of fresh fruits and veggies. She doesn't drink juice or soda. And she was formula-fed, so she doesn't even have the benefit of breastfeeding immunity.

    I would seriously recommend lots of research. Reading the ingredients list is what did it for me. I was told as a 12 year old not to touch the formaldehyde in a jar during a science class. That it was dangerous. But I'm supposed to inject my infant with it? Directly into her bloodstream? No way.

    If you want to talk more about this, or want some info as to where to start researching, PM me. :)
     
  3. ZippyMischief

    ZippyMischief Member

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    If anyone wants to live on a college campus ever they need to be immunized. I'm a believer in higher education, and living away from home. So, immunize away.

    There are no ways to "boost" immunity. You can boost the immune system by eating properly, but you can't make yourself more immune to something than other people. Immunity only develops from exposure to disease.

    That is why there is a new flu vaccine all the time. The virus mutates, and the body won't recognize this mutation. The vaccine introduces the inactive material of the mutated virus, which allows the body to build a defense against it.
     
  4. HippyFreek

    HippyFreek Vintage Member

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    Not true. Anyone, in any state of the US, can exempt themselves from vaccinating. You sign an exemption waiver and present that. You can claim religious exemption (and by law they can't ask "what religion" so you can claim Church of the Jedi for all you care), medical (such as my daughter can, as she has a gluten intolerance and gluteraldehyde has a form of gluten in it), or in some states, philisophical.

    Yes, you can be exposed to some strange and horrid diseases in college, including p. meningitis. However, in looking at the statistics, I don't see how vaccinating is necessarily prudent, especially since immunity from vaccines isn't guaranteed, or even proven.

    I'm not talking about boosting immunity. I'm talking about strengthening your immune system by feeding your system high doses of herbs and vitamins that the immune system thrives on. Everyone knows that Vitamin C helps to strengthen the immune system. Just look what carrying limes/oranges onboard ships did to the scurvy outbreaks. :)

    The flu vaccine is a true shot in the dark situation. Scientists look at what flu strains were most prevalent last year, guess which ones will be most prevalent this year, and then only offer vaccines against three of them. With the vast amount of strains out there, and the fact that most people who say they have the flu really don't, how save and effective are vaccines, REALLY? I've even had health professionals tell me to avoid the flu shots like the plague, especially with all of the harmful, nay POISONOUS/TOXIC chemicals in them.
     
  5. pixie81

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    I'm with HippyFreek on this. All those reasons are very valid.

    We made the decision based on our families situation. I have an autistic brother and both dh and I have aspergers so we know that our kids are genetically predisposed and didn't want a vaccination to tip them over the edge to autism. I don't believe vaccinations have been tested properly to prove that they aren't harmful.
     
  6. Dakota's Mom

    Dakota's Mom Senior Member

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    We stopped vaccinating because our son was seriously damaged by the vaccines. He went from being a healthy happy infant who was learning to eat everything to a sick little one who couldn't eat anything but rice without it coming back up faster than it went down. He was rapidly losing weight. He developed asthma so serious he had to be hospitalized and put on steriods. Through constant vigilance, trial and error and a good chiropracter, we were able to finally begin the healing process and get off all the drugs. He has not received another vaccine since then and as far as I'm concerned, never will

    Kathi
     
  7. MunaJadida

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    Well said, HippyFreek! I totally agree. My son was vaxed at birth and two months, but I did some research and decided to stop after that. He has had no vaxes since. He's 3 1/2 now and the healthiest kid I know. He hasn't been sick in ages (though that could be attributed to the fact that he's not in daycare and eats really healthy). No future kids of mine will have any vaxes.

    Out of the six colleges I've been to, only one has asked anything about vaxes. I clicked a button on the online form that said something about an exemption, then typed my name in and submitted the form saying that I refused the vax.
     

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