My thought on the whole school debate thing

I wasnt sure which forum to post this in, so i decided to put in in the random thoughts.

Anyway, I hear about it all the time, how many people think that if schools teach evolution, that they should have to teace intelligent design (the biblical story on how the earth was created)as well. Well, I dissagree with that idea. Here is my idea:
Think about when schools teach about weather. Weather is a science. There is a cycle called the water cycle. When water evaporates, it condenses into a cloud. When the cloud has enough water in it, it releases it as precipitation. This is science. Now, there are some native tribes throughout the world, both past and possibly present that belives that if they do a ceremonial dance, or pray to the rain god that it will bring rain. Should this be taught along the science of weather, because they both deal with the causes of rain? No. Because weather is science, and the cermonies and praying to rain gods are belief.
So when schools teach evolution in school, I do not think they should be pressured into teaching intelligent design because evolution is science and intelligent design is belief.
I am not trying to start an argument, I am not stating by anymeans that evolution is right and I.D. is wrong or that I.D. is right and evolution is wrong. I have an oppionion, but I am not going to get invloved in the right vs. wrong debate. I am just expressing my oppinion that science and belief are two very separate things that sould be treated very seperatly in schools.
What do you think?

 

Those fucking christians weren’t getting anywhere with the creation theory so they were forced to compromise with intelligent design, which again, requires no real proof

The neo-darwinian’s threw them to the lions back in the 90s (but they were unpalatable) so they're back for more punishment

Hotwater

 

so intelligent design and creationism are different? i thoght they were the same, just I.D. was more politcally correct or something. lol. whats the difference?

 

There is none.

It was a slick new packaging for the creation argument.

God did it, isn't science. It doesn't belong in schools.

You can be a christian and believe in evolution. Some peoples world views are simply out of touch with some of the findings of modern science.

 

They’re not all out of touch

The christian have their own team of scientists and researchers, some notable, and others tenured professors who I've heard speak, and it’s almost unbelievable what spills out of their mouth when faced with facts which support the case for evolution


Hotwater

 

Precisely, I.D. doesn't even qualify as theory, to be a theory, you need to be backed up by evidence. It's a bloody hypothesis, you start with the idea that 'god did it', discard fucking everything and ta dah!

 

All I know is that I would withdraw my kids from a school that taught creationism in a fucken heartbeat.

 

I.D. is juat a new twist on creation, trying to disguise it as science when it is not.
Same old lies, brand new packaging.

 

indeed... i think that if any belief based ideology must be taught in school (i assume we're talking about a public school, not a private school where you choose which ideals your children are being taught by which school you send them to), then all of them must be taught. this certainly doesn't belong in science class, but perhaps a class on religion or faith or whatever, in which many belief systems are taught and discussed, with the same amount of time being spent on each different system of belief. there should be no favoritism of christianity (or any other religion or belief system) simply because it's the "majority" religion or belief system in the country. that's why they separated church and state for christ sake.

 

i agree that schools need to teach it all. show the kids and let them think for themselves. this is a debate that will probably be around for who the hell knows. and it comes down to the same thing. humans are afraid of death!!!!!!