When exactly did rock n' roll die?

Discussion in 'Rock 'n' Roll' started by Fluffernutter, Aug 2, 2006.

  1. Son of Peace

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    Beautifully put. I agree completly with Janis rock an' roll is still alive man. It's gone thru alot of turmoil an' shit talk but its still here. I wake up listen to some Zeppelin, eat breakfast with some Grateful Dead/ Jefferson Airplane, visit my friends with my portaradio tuned to the local classic rock station, then eventually go to bed to some Floyd. (Plenty of other bands too but u get the idea.) I keep rock alive everyday. Yesterday I made a couple o' white guys over from rap to rock an' showed em the true soul of our generation. Don't get me wrong I've got nothin' against rap cept the fact that its all about money an' the disregaurd for life to get it. Also maybe its just me but it seems like modern country has kinda adopted a rock an' roll style to it. A good modern rock an' roll band at least in my eyes is Pearl Jam.
     
  2. timewarp

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    As long as there is something to say for or against something, r'n'r will always be ALIVE and WELL!! 58 yrs of history repeating CAN'T be wrong!! :)
     
  3. Spirit Wynd

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    Who says it's dead? Just because it's not mainstream dominate doesn't mean its dead. Still plenty of rockers out there in its old and new variations and styles. True music is about the music, the lyrics, the point they want to make or things they want to share, not making new trends for the followers of society to get into the "new cool".

    No, rock is not dead, never will be, I may expand my interests, but will never give it up!!!

    Peace everyone.
    Spirit Wynd
     
  4. Asmodean

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    So there are no better bands than in the old days, just lots of good bands on myspace next to 1000's of shitty bands...? This has maybe to do with why people think rock's dead or in a zombiestate I think, but not with rock actually being so. Who cares about the shitty bands, they were always there, but now the so called searcher runs into them alot on myspace, is that why music's so bad today? No.
    All those bands who are quite good today aren't better then the golden oldies? Well, that just your opinion, just keep in mind that when you are listening a free song on myspace isn't in a very good music quality (especially when you're checking it out with simple computerspeakers), so the sound may suprise you on the actual album or of course live.
    And are the good bands of today only just good? I agree maybe if you compare the stuff with the 'classic rock' we would say it's not better, but man, it's not worse neither! And it doesn't matter either! We should listen with an open mind more, forget the 'perfect' stuff of the past, people are doing new things now as well, and yes, lots of bands are also doing old things, but some do it rather good. Also keep in mind that in the early days it was a lot easier to make original rock than nowadays, although I think there also are a lot of bands nowadays trying too hard to be original and forget about that it also have to groove.
    You don't like rock without guitarsolo's? Well, me neither in general :D, but there are still new bands playing them loud and proud. You don't know any? That is exactly what I mean.
    Keep an open mind and look for the stuff before claim it to be dead just because it doesn't get thrown in your lap anymore.

    What I'm trying to say I guess is that lots of people seem to listen to rock nowadays for different reasons. New and young listeners generally want to check out the rock that's on the radio and look for the hip alternative sounds of rock of today (like indie, alternative, postrock, and in the 90's stuff like punkrock, grunge), older listeners check out new rock because they want more good rock and get dissappointed because it doesn't sound like what they know. Rock has become more diverse with every decade and every decade spawned a new popular genre. You don't have to like all new rock (hell, I can't stand lots of it to be honest), but you can't say it's dead if you stop looking beyond the new things that get all the attention. There's more, trust me. But you have to look for it.
     
  5. ProggyMan

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    Pearl Jam is worthless Cock Rock. There are more good bands today than there have ever been, simply because there's more bands. The internet has been great for music, now bands can be exposed on an international level without leaving their home town. No Hip Hop's not about money or disregard to life to get it, anymore than Rock is the devil's music.
     
  6. timewarp

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    I totally concur :)
     
  7. WoodstockChild

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    No, I'd say it died in the early to mid seventies.
     
  8. Asmodean

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    Rock 'n roll died because of their lame fans who want it dead because they rather dwell in nostalgic feelings than looking deeper into todays rock 'n roll scene than the trendy stuff. If it isn't in your face it has to be dead right?
     
  9. WoodstockChild

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    Show me one new rock and roll band that has a style similar to that of the Band, electric Bob Dylan and the early Grateful Dead and I may change my tune.
     
  10. Asmodean

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    It's not about similarity to those bands, but I guess not everyone looks for the same things in rock 'n roll. Too many people say exactly the same as you though,"it has to sound like...". Rock 'n roll is not dead because there aren't any bands that sound like the Band, the Doors, Jefferson Airplane or Grateful Dead. For me it's about the groove, the rhythm, the creativity and right feeling. I also love the psychedelic aspects in rock very much :D. I have absolutely no problem with new rock doing old things (on the contrary, if it's good it's good, let those influences be heard!) but it also shouldn't be a copy.

    But ok, it would be my pleasure to show you a band that's in the street of Grateful Dead and the Band. Try the albums Dead man and Euphoria of the band Dead Man. Give them a few spins. I think songs like Highway, Going over the hill, The Wheel, Further and Deep forest green will suit you best (just a guess though). Let me know what you think! :)
     
  11. WoodstockChild

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    The anthemic rock and roll of the mid-late 1960s makes my heart swell with unnatural joy, any day of the week day or night, rain or shine, dark or light causes bliss to rupture the veins in the core of my being, ecstasy to overwhelm and then silence me; I am convinved there will never be music like it again.

    I like many other kinds of music, but nothing gets me lost in raw human experience, in uncut emotion, in primal youth the way a song like 'The Weight' by The Band does, or 'Wasn't Born to Follow' or anything from those particular years probably 1966-1969. What the hell was it? It torments me and makes me maniacal with bliss. I suspect it's something to do with the fact that it was all so raw and innocent, that the artists were regular people and not celebrities, and they started out musicians and became products of the music industry not the other way around.

    I'll check out the group and songs you mentioned, but please... is there anything out there, new, something someone could experience today, that's anything like that sound I crave? I'm tired of being bitter.

    I need sleep.
     
  12. Bonkai

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    I'm sorry but rock and roll was born on 1948 when Chuck Berry filmed Chuck "Hail! Hail! Rock 'n' Roll". Rock 'n Roll died when RATM broke up in the late 90s.
     
  13. timewarp

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    There are lots of peeps out there (in general!) that would like to sse r'n'r dead......sorry, but THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN.......history repeating :):):)
     
  14. ProggyMan

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    Your problem is that your looking for a specific sound that people don't make any more. If you had your way Rock really would be dead because bands would be recycling old sounds, not pushing boundaries like they are today. You might like The Tallest Man On Earth, Bon Iver, Elliott Smith, Neutral Milk Hotel...
     
  15. Asmodean

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    Well, I understand how Woodstockchild feels, I had those feelings myself as well. And however you are right that she seems to be looking too much for a specific sound, this feelings of bliss can be felt by rock today as well. After all, it's not the really specific sound, it's the combination of groove, message and uhm, something harder to describe maybe. :p .. Seriously though, I know what it is when I hear it but I can't put it into words easily.

    Though that the feeling that the rock I dig was death didn't dissappeared when trying to get into bands like Radiohead and Neutral Milk Hotel and generally most indie/alternative rock bands really. After checking them out I didn't even want to get into them, cause it didn't even felt like 'real' rock to me. Actually these bands rather annoy me, but I'm willing to admit that's just me, not the music :D
    Because most bands from these (very vague and wide) genres are indeed pushing the bounderies of rock and create new sounds, but that is not what lovers of 'real' rock want. What is missing in these bands for me (and I imagine it's the same with Woodstockchild and most other classicrocklovers that claim rock to be dead) is the message and/or groove and like said the blissful state it can get you in that makes good rock so pure. Unfortunately this kind of rock doesn't get the attention like for example alternative and indie gets these days. But to think there isn't anyone making it anymore while so many people still like it, tsssk.
     
  16. WoodstockChild

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    That's why I'd really love to sing for a cover band. How much fun would that be?
     
  17. Asmodean

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    I think almost as much fun as singing your own stuff :cheers2:
     
  18. SunDweller1989

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    Rock died when MTV came along. It commercialized rock more than ever. Too many people got into it who ruined rock. It died. The 80's music scene was decent. Not bad but not good.
     
  19. WoodstockChild

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  20. ishikabe

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    Rock and Rap seemed to have died around the same time.
     

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