The craziest religion of all?

Discussion in 'Philosophy and Religion' started by rygoody, Jul 23, 2008.

  1. MovedOn

    MovedOn Senior Member

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    I vouche it is Western Pscyhology.

    The absurdities this institution commits in the name of holding some 'objective' conception of how the mind should operate approaches a level of delusion beyond any single religion or spiritual practice in existence. The very fact they even believe some objective notion of mind can be obtained through study of brain flesh and chemicals is a delusion unto itself. But the notion that they think 'normal' as deemed by collective clinical studies is a 'normal' that everyone else must also come to resemble is simply absurd.

    For one, the entire institution has absolutely no evidence whatsoever. Every single bit of evidence they think they have is based on the philosophical ASSUMPTION that consciousness is brain flesh. That brain matter and chemical comes before consciousness, before thought. This has absolutely no evidence behind it, therefore all evidence gathered by Western Psychology, as it is based on that philosophical assumption, is entirely unevidenced and pure nonsense as the base assumption all their evidence relies upon has not yet been evidenced in the slightest. Truth is, the little bit of evidence science does have in this direction points to the fact that consciousness is actually electrical activity, thought is electrical activity, it is electrons. Electrons being a sub-component of flesh itself, meaning the flesh formed in the brain would be an after-product of thought. Not the other way around as Western Psychology assumes.

    Now it's quite easy to rag on anti-depressant medications, ADD medication, anti-psychotics and how these aren't really designed to do 'anything' specifically. There just uppers and downers which big pharma could patent and make money off of. But that aside, the real absurdity of Western Psychology that just puts it over the top comes in the form of a procedure called lobotomy.

    Lobotomy being, where you take an ice pick, hammer it up under the eye lid into the frontal lobe to severe all the nerve endings in the front of the brain. Because thats where the imaginative portion of the brain was located. This was considered a viable cure for schizophrenics, manic depressives, even hyperactivity. Over 60,000 lobotomies occurred between roughly the years 1940 and 1980.

    Now with that lets step back and classify Western Psychology in terms of, it is a subjective belief about the nature of the mind, the self, off of which various techniques and practices are derived. This is the same thing as a religion, it is the same thing as a spiritual practice. However no religion, no spiritual practice in the history of mankind has gotten so crazy as to believe a viable solution for inner turmoil was to stir up the frontal lobes of the brain with an ice pick. Given that this is the most twisted and deluded practice that an interpretation of the mind has ever produced, I would say Western Psychology takes the single highest award for coming up with craziest, most dangerous, and single most delusional viewpoint of the mind, the self, the being, the spirit, the soul etc. Albeit, lobotomy is no longer performed, the base philosophical ASSUMPTION that once led them to believe lobotomy to be viable is still the same exact assumption that fuels the thinking process behind Western Psychology today.

    Now I must retract a little bit and say, yes there have been human sacrifices occurring in religions in the past, mutilations of sorts and mass suicides. I would classify lobotomy on par with these things. But at least when they were sacrificing a human they didn't believe they were carrying out some sort of scientifically evidenced, intelligent, procedure.

    And yes, Western Psychology might not have any zany creation stories dealing with Jesus's, Buddhas or Xenu's. But atleast those practices have an accurate enough conception of what the mind actually is so as to not believe there performing an objectively evidenced, helpful, procedure of some sort by hammering an ice pick into your brain.

    So thats all good and all, Western Psychology is all shaped up now? No, it's got but a few patches on top of it. Anti-psychotics came to replace lobotomy, but as I said before the same philosophical assumption that led to the practice of lobotomy is still the same exact philosophical assumption fueling Western Psychology today. It still has the same belief structure behind it, even though it ended lobotomy.

    Lets put this into some different contexts now. If any cult in the US, if any religious practice in the US had ever once got into their minds that something like lobotomy could be a viable solution for anything, did it but only once and then word got out about it. That religious practice would fall apart so incredibly quickly, it would be worse than a cult or religious practice being exposed for human sacrifice. The cult leaders would go to jail, the thing would be disbanded. But after 60,000 lobotomies performed, even advertisements put up for the procedure in public, the thing known as Western Psychology is still chugging along, still carrying along it's same old philosophical assumptions into the newage with new medications and new treatments which still rely upon their same, false, delusional conception of how the mind operates. And no one seems to really notice? No one seems to really care? Cause it's scientific-sounding? Cause it still makes money? If any other institution in the Western World had committed the act of lobotomy, the thing would be long gone by now.

    If you've ever notioned towards any religious practice, spiritual practice or belief system being absurd, delusional, but still hold any reverence to Western Psychology, your out of your mind. Western Psychology has single most psychotic conception of what mind and human is.
     
  2. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    The stone of folly! Hieronymus Bosch painted a fairly accurate picture of how we would come to look at our own souls :D
    God bless
     
  3. yumyum2k5

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    That freak baptist church comprising of a family of weird inbred dick heads who picket the funerals of the deceased soldiers and also picketed heath ledgers funeral.

    Apparently they are 'the most hated family in america' but i cant remember the exact name coz i didnt pay any attention to those evil mother fuckers.

    That is one crazy sect of christianity, or so they claim.

    A close second going to scientology of course.
     
  4. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    ^Westboro Baptist Church.

    ya, they definatly have to be up there in the top 5.

    If you are crazy, then that is fine. But once you start being beligerant and bothering other people, it isn't cool anymore.
     
  5. sunyatasamsara

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    Craziest religion of all is the one you believe in cause your wise enough to reject the other foolish ones but get caught up in your own version.
     
  6. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    Consumerism.

    You are programmed to buy things from the time you're a toddler.

    You are taught that having "things" makes you happy.

    Most will learn the sorry truth for themselves.

    The sooner the better too.



    x
     
  7. gEo_tehaD_returns

    gEo_tehaD_returns Senior Member

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    This does not make much sense. Brain cells are the product of the electrical activity which they precipitate and transfer? ???

    The past is littered with ludicrous medical procedures, instruments and outlooks. Hell, there were times when the mentally handicapped were considered evil and killed ASAP. The concept of 'psychology' did not exist at that time.

    I do agree with you to a point that trying to hold everyone to a universal standard of "normality" is a waste of time. This is not, however, what psychologists do today - the ones that I've talked to at least. Psychiatrists, on the other hand, can do nothing but throw pills at you. So when you walk in crying about a problem, thats exactly what he or she will do - try to make you "normal" by "normalizing" your "abnormal" brain chemistry.

    A psychologist will utilize his scientifically-provided knowledge of the way the brain works to help him in talking you through your problems in a much more human way.

    And why should our inability to completely prove 100% sure to every person's satisfaction that consciousness is entirely chemical lead us to just completely avoid the study of human thought? Perhaps we should abandon all of our science because we can't prove for certain that some mischevious god character isn't constantly manipulating space-time in a consistent manner in order to make our measurements come out wrong in the same way each time, thus giving us a false understanding of our world. I mean, you can't prove that wrong can you? So fuck science.

    Seriously though, what more proof do you need that neurons are necessary for consciousness. Look at Terry Schiavo - remember the scans of her head? it looks like somebody had scooped out the middle 80% of her brain with soup ladle. yet she was still alive, and coule even make noises now and then and drool on her hospital gown. Do you think she was conscious? If you took out all parts of a human brain except those necessary to sustain its basic vital functions, do you t hink the person to whom thie was done would ever experience consciousness again?

    Thats not to say ncessarily that thought is entirely neuronal and not electrical - but without the neurons, you don't have the electrical signals anyway. So what difference does it make?

    Take it easy on psychology, man. maybe pick up a textbook sometime - that was the only college textbook I enjoyed reading.
     
  8. AdreSac

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    Everytime i think, there is 21 frames i see, i fear its ocd, its slow but fast enough to paint me a good picture, i was about 11 years old, i was going to turn 12 in a few months, i was watching war of the worlds, i was sick from something i ate last night, when i woke up the following morning, i was dizzy, i had a bowl with me to puke in, i was lying down watching the movie while zoning out thinking of the basic concept of the movie, i was losing my mind thinking of all of these crazy theories about the universe and its life forms. These thoughts and the mathmetics behind them were so unique that i became elated, i was the happiest not giving a fuck kid in the world, then i began to realize i was losing my sanity, i was scared to be happy. This is the mind fuck that is causing these attacks.
     

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