Tripping virgin

I've never tried any psychedelics but, hopefully in the next week I'll be trying shrooms with some friends. So I have a couple questions. Is it safe to trip at a lake, or outside even, or should we go to someones house? And is it common to have a bad trip your first time?

Thanks for your help.

Peace and Love.

 

It's only common to have a bad trip first time if you expect that; go into it expecting to have your life enriched, and you will .

Tripping at a lake is AWESOME on shrooms. Nature in general kicks ass, stay away from indoors and certainly don't waste it vegging out on the couch watching tv or something . . .

You can even swim if you are able to and if it is reasonably safe.

Being on shrooms is like being very very high on marijuana and very drunk. There's a lot of mental chatter, I once described it as two italian men fighting in my skull. You'll also hopefully get some nice visual distortions, like inanimate objects smiling and waving at you.

 

Thanks for your help, I'm so excited to try it. I've been wanting to for over a year now.

 

listen to this guy he's right on the money

 

Camping is perfect. Don't plan on seeing anyone's parents for 8 hours minimum.

IMHO: Bad trip = 1 in 100. Bad trip with long lasting effects = 1 in 1000

 

Outside is the only way to trip indoors just sucks. Having a bad trip is impossible. The only way to have one is if you let yourself have one. It's all in the head man.

 

Thanks for your help...but now I can't get any money from my mom because my brothers an asshole. So it's gonna be awhile till I'm able to do it. But at least I know now for when my time comes to try it.

 

Yeah all these guys are right. Nature. Be happy, think positive and have fun. Hopefully you get some nice visuals and see some beautiful natural trees moving and breathing, its amazing...It really makes you look at nature in a whole different way. If you start having a bad time, just think of jim morrison or something lol or someone awesome and just think what they would do, ya know, go with the flow and own the experience, its totally worth it.

 

bad trips are 50/50 not 1 out of 100

i've done shrooms twice. first time started off fun and i went into a bad trip a few hours later. second time i just flat out had a bad trip.

after the first trip, it took me a few days to become mentally stable. on the other hand i had accidentally eaten a quarter thinking it was an eighth and was by myself. but it's still not 1 out of 100. psychedelics are russian roulette. however, bad trips aren't as common with mushrooms as they are with acid.

just don't dwell on having a bad trip when you do them and you'll more than likely have fun. also don't do them alone. but the lake should be really fun. make sure you're outdoors. like someone else said...nature is awesome! =]

 

ive heard the opposite, that shrooms are more upsetting for bad trips, but everybody hears differently. Definitely dont be alone, and i think that its not 50 50 thats bullshit, man, it depends on the person though, some people can do acid like every fuckin day and never have a bad trip and some cant handle, it, just try it out and hope to have fun, and dont forget that tomorrow is another day and its all just one big dream, so dont make it a nightmare for yourself

 

...and are therefore an expert.

 

I don't really like to talk about bad trips because that plants the idea that something terrible can happen in the first place. Usually I like to assure everyone that not only is the first time the best time, but that shrooms are wonderful in general.

However, in my experience the bad trips have always come from fighting the dissolution of reality. In all honesty, this may happen to you OP.

But what you need to understand is that this is ok. This is meant to happen. Closing your eyes can help. In your head you'll see everything going on in your life or society from a different angle that may be discomforting at first. Let this wash over you, like the lapping waves of the ocean.

It can be scary, but with the right attitude and thought, you can experience the feeling of being born again! Take what you can learn from the experience and share with us when you get back!

We're all fishermen in the sea of psychedelics, and it's our responsibility to catch fish (or ideas) to bring back to shore and share with your friends.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktqvFGdgo2w

 

i've also done acid 8 times. thanks.


and i never said i was an expert. i suppose you are?

 

well they happened to get the lucky half of the 50/50. a psychedelic releases your subconscious mind and it'd impossible to know ahead of time what in fact is going to be released. this is the reason no trip is different. you can't plan how a trip is going to be. anything is possible. therefore, 50/50. obviously some people have better luck than others when it comes to this but it still doesn't change the fact the chances are 50/50.

 

Your reasoning is flawed, your statistics theory profoundly askew, and your experience very limited. Do some research, gain some experience, and stop trying to drop knowlege you aint got. I say this for your own good, and that of the community.

 

my statistics theory profoundly askew? go talk to all the hippies from the 60's who got fucked up and were never right again. ask them how unlikely it is to have a bad trip. then talk to me about how askew my theories are.

edit: you are ignorant to completely disregard everything i said. if you know anything about the mind, then you would know that your subconscious can release anything thats happened from months to years in the past, good or bad. it's impossible to know what a psychedelic is going to bring out. you can't predict a trip.

 

I dont know, but i would have to trip pretty hard to actually have a bad trip, maybe i just dont know what a bad trip is.. How would one describe a bad trip? I have gotten bad vibes and thoughts, but I just change it up, do something else, think something different and i feel good. Maybe i need to do more psychedelics before i talk about it, but Im sure it depends on the person, enviroment, ect. its not always 100 percent 50/50 chance...

 

a bad trip can be described as anything from bad thoughts and vibes...to freaking out and hitting shit and not knowing whats happening. it obviously depends on the individual, set, and setting.

the scientific chemistry of the human brain is what makes the statistic for bad and good trips 50/50. some people will argue and some won't but it is the truth. the people who will argue and say it's false are the people who don't have as many bad trips as others. obviously some people are more prone to bad trips, but it still doesn't change the fact that statistics are 50/50. all it means is that they're more mentally stable than others. mentally stable not meaning diagnostic illnesses...just meaning that they have less bad thoughts in their mind than others.

you can't count on a trip being good is what i'm getting at. no matter how you look at it, it's russian roulette. suppose you play russian roulette with a 6 shot pistol, load one bullet into it, and spin the chamber. when someone puts the gun up to their head and pulls the trigger, theoretically they have a 50/50 chance of the bullet going off because they don't know which shot it will be. however, a person their could say "no, idiot, you don't have a 50/50 chance. you have a 1/6 chance!" sure they have a 1/6 chance but it's still 50/50 because they could either win or lose. suppose they win and go for another shot. they might be able to pull the trigger another 2 or 3 times and win...eventually the bullet will go off and shoot them in the head. their 50/50 probabilities only took them so far. see what i'm getting at?

now i'm not trying to bag on psychedelics...i enjoy them myself. however, i will never use acid again because of shit that has happened in the past. but i frown upon people who are in denial about bad trips. it's one thing to enjoy using psychedelics, but if you're going to use them you should at least have knowledge of the drug(s).

 

I think you're half right, viz. that you will encounter difficulties sometime in the sea of pyschedelia, and it is important to know what to do. But a bad trip is of our own making, a result of how we deal with the difficulties. Like Clordio:coolgleamA: said, if you let each given energy wash over you as if in a sea you can turn any degree of a bad trip into a good one. The thinking that bad trips are inevitable is no good because if a person believes that, then once they encounter difficulties they will tell themselves that they're due for a bad trip and thus they will have one. But looking at it like a bit of turbulence in an otherwise good trip results in a return to good trip vibes.

 

Meh. I wouldn't try swimming in the lake on shrooms. If you have some great mushrooms... I personally wouldn't reccomend swimming. Especially if it's night time. Too many accidents could happen. That would probably be my least favorite story to tell if a friend drowned in the lake while shrooming.