Peace Peace Peace!!!!!!

You blew the not wanting to sound insensitive bit all to hell. Intellectually lazy? How arrogant of you to assume this. Who are you the fucking forum police? I, for one, think it's awesome that a 10 year old child sees the importance of peace..I'd rather him be thinking on that rather than what level he's at on his Playstation game. I don't hate Bush so much it clouds everything I do, hell I don't even hate him. I don't think he's a good president, but that's just my opinion. You can throw out all the long words you want to..hey it looks nice anyway!! The kid that started this thread can't even pronounce half of what you just said. Lighten up.

 

I have been reading the posts on this page, and I don't want to sound insensitive, but all of you are intellectually lazy.
What an observation! Why the hell do you think most of the people come here?
No one bothers to read facts or valid information;
Of course he hasn't, he's 13.
it appears, however, to me at least, that all of you choose to be blinded by Leftist ideology. And your ideology acts as a mental straitjacket. It blinds adherents to reality, breeds fanaticism, and rationalizes dishonesty. It makes smart people stupid.
You should have seen me before I was awakened and started caring. I was blinded and refused to see reality, believed the lies coming out of your boy Bush's mouth, and was a right wing fanatic(not really on this last part, but I'm touching all the points you made). The fact is that if you support George Bush, you either have no idea about what is going on with this country, or you are rich. You cannot be in the middle or lower class and be politically aware and still support George Bush.
Ideology provides a way for lazy people to respond to issues, ideas, people, and events without thinking. In the final analysis, you all aren't necessarily rigorous thinkers.
I am a rigorous thinker, I do not blindly follow anything.
You hate Bush so much that it clouds everything you do, say or think.
Maybe because most of the people on here have parents that lost their jobs, had to move out of their house because of the rising taxes for the middle and lower classes, or lost a loved one in the War for Oil. Either that or they are aware of what is going to happen to them and this country if Bush stays in office.
You are all intellectual morons. And I say this with all the sensitivity I can muster, because I do want to be PC.
I take it that you support George Bush....what the fuck are you doing here? How many babies have you killed today? How many people have you thrown out on the street today? How many innocent civilians have you arrested with claims of "terrorism" today? How many children died in Iraq under your orders? You motherfuckers make me sick.

 

All for the sake of American freedom... Excuse me if I'm not feeling real patriotic these days.

 

some people are just plane ignorant but then again in america just like we will here you are gonna have the problem of voting for the lesser of two evils. but please think before you vote do you really want another 4 years of Bush?

 

I am patriotic..... speaking out against the wrongdoings of our government and practicing our first ammendment is what this country was founded on. Just because we care about this country doesn't mean we are anti-American...lol duh.

 

You didn't have do duh me..i wasn't getting smart. I am quite aware of the difference between patriotism and our corrupt government. I didn't mean to make it sound like you were anti-american...or whatever it is you misunderstood there..sorry. Just because I said I wasn't feeling real patriotic these days doesn't mean I hate America, either. It does, however, sadden me to turn on the news and hear about more children and innocent lives taken due to this stupid war though..that's all I meant. I'm very proud of where I live..and wouldn't want to live anywhere else. Damn why is every little thing you say dissected to every little minute detail..things you say don't have to be so black and white you know.

 

but what you are saying is patriotic, you love where you live, and are upset by the shame braught to it by a corupt goverment that is spreading murder and greed across the borders.

 

Overall..I do love my country..some days I'm frustrated and don't feel the love though...hence the feelings of being unpatriotic. I don't think I'm channeling my thoughts right here..sorry.

 

Soulrebel--You made my point exactly. How can you say that you're a rigorous thinker, but make statements such as "how many babies have you killed today" or "war for oil" or "innocent civilians arrested" "how many children died in Iraq under my orders" or other Michael Moore gems? How can one take you seriously as your opinions have no basis in reality? Please provide me with this empirical evidence, then I'll cede your point: (1) where is the evidence of innocent civilians being arrested? I need names, dates, and incidents and arrest reports from said law enforcement agency (they are public record, so please provide); (2) where is the evidence that President Bush is killing babies? Again, I need names, parents names, names of doctors/generals/admirals who actually killed the babies, and the written order from Bush himself; (3) the folks in the middle class who have had tax increases, because under the Bush Administration, EVERYONE who pays federal income taxes have gotten a tax break since 2001. As a matter of fact, the President signed another tax cut for the middle class this past Monday in Iowa. And over 5 million Americans have been completely dropped off the federal income tax rolls because the President's tax policy. That means they pay NO income taxes whatsoever. With that being said, please provide me evidence that the middle class has had their taxes raised since Bush has been in office.

If you can provide me solid proof, and can be verified by another source, then I'll admit to being wrong.

But I do not believe you will produce said information, so your arguments have no basis in reality other than in your head.

Another thing, my best friend lives in Boulder, Colorado, and he says that as he walks around on his lunch break, he sees hippies all over the place singing, bangin' bongos, playing with hackie sacks, and talkin' about peace through appeasement and unilateral disarmament (only for the United States, of course. We wouldn't want our enemies to disarm, would we?) His question is always "What are you doing for the betterment of society and the economy?" Nothing. My friend is working, providing for himself and is self-reliant.

One more thing: Have you also wondered why you all can never win an election? You are for all this non-sense, but how is it that you can never get ANY candidate elected to any federal position?

 

What do you mean by, "You all?" If you mean democrats, there have been plenty of democrats and liberals elected to federal positions. If you mean "hippies," well then, that's difficult to prove either way since "democrat" is an official label whereas "hippie" is a more personal one. If you're talking about the Green Party and Nader (and keep in mind not all of us support them), then yes, that's true. Nader needs to drop out.

 

Strawberry--Yes, I meant hippies.

 

Man you are going to come on a forum for hippies and claim "

What are you doing for the betterment of society and the economy?" Nothing

i can't tell you what all these good people are doing but i can tell you i'm a leader in a youth group, i do monthly outreach work painting houses clearning parks painted a hosipital wing a few months back that kinda stuff, ok so i don't have a job and don't earn money sorry i don't really get with this capitalist shit so i guess i'm not doing any thing for economy (well apart from all the money coming in from drugs/ buyer not suplyer before you get upset).

and as for the election shit i would say that to make it in polotics you have to have alot of "qualities" that really are just flaws so what if arogant determination can get you far in buisness if it means your a prick it's not worth it. you'd never see a hippie sell out their ideas just to get into the publics good books and if you did they would be selling out so just as bad as the rest of the poloticians. well done your penis friends run the world above ground and at the moment the underground culture isn't so big but don't be thinking you got it now so you got it forever

 

Peppy, please stop talking. You're making all of us look bad.

 

there are more of us than you know, blackie...

mwahahaha!!

 

Soulrebel--You made my point exactly.
You're an idiot for thinking that.
How can you say that you're a rigorous thinker, but make statements such as "how many babies have you killed today" or "war for oil" or "innocent civilians arrested" "how many children died in Iraq under my orders" or other Michael Moore gems?
The only Michael Moore movie I've seen is Roger and Me, and I have not read any of his books. Michael Moore's a little bitch if you ask me, he's as bad as you and your government fucks. I can be a rigorous thinker and say all that because....well shit, I'm a rigorous, logical thinker and I can speak (type in this case). I see you are from D.C. and you hate liberalism.... go fuck yourself you heartless fucking bitch. Your god will send you to hell.
How can one take you seriously as your opinions have no basis in reality? Please provide me with this empirical evidence, then I'll cede your point: (1) where is the evidence of innocent civilians being arrested?
Sherman Austin. Ahfez Khan. Jose Padilla. Ahmad al Halabi. There is many, many more. Of the 2000-3000 people that have been arrested since the 9/11 attacks, less than a hundred of them are linked to anything remotely terrorist. If you want my links, I'd be glad to give them to you.
I need names, dates, and incidents and arrest reports from said law enforcement agency (they are public record, so please provide); (2) where is the evidence that President Bush is killing babies?
He is keeping the troops in Iraq, don't be so naive.
Again, I need names, parents names, names of doctors/generals/admirals who actually killed the babies, and the written order from Bush himself; (3) the folks in the middle class who have had tax increases, because under the Bush Administration, EVERYONE who pays federal income taxes have gotten a tax break since 2001.
And how big of a cut is this compared to the CEOs of America? Its hardly even noticeable compared to the taxes they pay(or don't pay, I should say).
As a matter of fact, the President signed another tax cut for the middle class this past Monday in Iowa. And over 5 million Americans have been completely dropped off the federal income tax rolls because the President's tax policy. That means they pay NO income taxes whatsoever. With that being said, please provide me evidence that the middle class has had their taxes raised since Bush has been in office.
You're right, he has given the middle tax cuts recently. First good thing he's done while in office. But what you fail or he fails to mention is the Value-Added Tax that taxes everything and every process. The prices for everything that people need, even water, is going to have more and more taxes on it.
If you can provide me solid proof, and can be verified by another source, then I'll admit to being wrong.
It won't matter either way, but if you continue with this whining, then I will.
But I do not believe you will produce said information, so your arguments have no basis in reality other than in your head.
I have researched them all.....and you know they are true. I'll give sources in my next post if you continue with your babyish rhetoric.
Another thing, my best friend lives in Boulder, Colorado, and he says that as he walks around on his lunch break, he sees hippies all over the place singing, bangin' bongos, playing with hackie sacks, and talkin' about peace through appeasement and unilateral disarmament (only for the United States, of course. We wouldn't want our enemies to disarm, would we?) His question is always "What are you doing for the betterment of society and the economy?" Nothing. My friend is working, providing for himself and is self-reliant.
Oh yes, another clone. Not all hippies walk around playing bongos, look at Abbie Hoffman, the most influential "hippie" to ever live, imo. What did he do? He took you on, and damn near beat you.
One more thing: Have you also wondered why you all can never win an election? You are for all this non-sense, but how is it that you can never get ANY candidate elected to any federal position?
Have you noticed my age? I am not old enough to do anything yet. Give me a couple years, and you'll want to kill me.



Sugarmaggie, I was being sarcastic. Sorry if I came off as an ass


Ya know...I could provide sources now, but I have to leave. I hope your guilty consciounse eats away at your brain.

 

It's ok SoulRebel..I still love ya bro.

 

Peppy--I didn't understand anything you just said. Please explain in correct English, please. Thanks.

 

Strawberry Fields--Amen to your comment on "Peppy."

 

Soulrebel--To quote you here: "I can be a rigorous thinker and say all that because....well shit, I'm a rigorous, logical thinker and I can speak (type in this case). I see you are from D.C. and you hate liberalism.... go fuck yourself you heartless fucking bitch. Your god will send you to hell." Very good. Very, very good. You really told me. Oh, and what makes you think I'm a conservative? Harry Truman is my hero, and he was a Democrat. I use my brain, and I understand American history, and there are no hippies who won wars against evil.

Oh, and just because I live and work in Washington, DC, doesn't mean that I'm a government worker. I could be a janitor, a dishwasher, a telemarketer, a construction worker or even a farmer (yes, in the surrounding Metro DC area, there are farms). So, why do you assume that I work for the federal government?

However, I will say that I spent time in Iraq from April to June doing public affairs for the Coalition Provisional Authority (CPA) until the transfer of power. And what I find so ironic is that you hippies and Leftists talk about human rights, the rights of women and all the rest, but the Iraqi men and women I met talk about the horror of the last 30 years under Saddam. One Iraqi man said that Saddam and his sons would drill holes in Iraqis' heads, and then pour acid in their brain. Human rights are your mantra? Really. The torture, killing, raping, and mutilation of innocent civilians doesn't outrage you, but George W. Bush is a bad, bad man? What is even funnier, Bush is HUGELY popular with regular Iraqis. There are 18 providences in Iraq, and only 2 are unstable. The other 16 providences are peaceful and calm. Dr. Allawi is on the ground there, and you're not. And for you guys to say you know what is going on in Iraq is the height of hypocrisy. Women and children are now going to school, are going to vote in the first time in Iraqi history. And this is bad to you? I'm SO thankful that hippies were not around during World War II, because it took 405,000 Americans dying to defeat fascism. We are now, as Churchill once said, in a battle "for victory at any cost, because without victory, there is no survival." Again, if you hippies would have been around during WWII, you would have sided with Hitler over Roosevelt, and then Truman; you would have protested Truman's decision to drop two atomic bombs on Japan. Oh, and while I'm at it, Hitler didn't attack us on 7 December 1941; however, in response to Pearl Harbor, FDR attacked BOTH Germany and Japan. Why? Glad you hippies queried. Because FDR knew that the world was under attack from fascism. And it had to be defeated. George W. Bush knows that the world is again under attack by fascism, but the only difference now is that you hippies and others on the Left side with America's enemies--just like you did during the Cold War when Ronald Reagan defeated the Soviet Union. We won, you lost. History will repeat itself again--we will win, and hippies will lose. Got it, Soulrebel? Put that in your peace pipe and smoke it and lose more brain cells. Oh, and by the way, smoking pot is against the law, just in case you didn't know. See. I'm lookin' out for you.

 

Dopesickkid--You're an intelligent thinker. You really showed me.