I never tried DMT how does it compare to a Ketamine K hole? If anyone here tried both n has an answer it would be appreciated... Is it really the strongest mind altering substance on earth? Timothy leary associated DMT and Ketamine with the psycho-atomic circuit, its the highest circuit of consciousness... LSD was associated with the one b4 it...
apples and oranges. they act on different receptors, thus give different effects. can't really compare the two, except for the fact that you're completely zooted with high doses of either....also overdose from either is a blackout with temporary amnesia. and you're referring to circuit 8, the 'near death experience'. used to be a bit of a fan in leary's Exopsychology when I was your age. now in retrospect, i think he was quite the idealist (I was too), and perhaps a bit misguided. great man, just a bit off his rocker, as was John Lilly.
Both of them on high doses leave you imobilized, but while K on extremly high doses disolve your complete personality, you don't exist and don't know that you should exist, its more like so many things happening but you don't exist not like a body, enthity, nothing. With DMT you never loose your personality, you still exist as an entity, you loose only body. While both are extremly benefitiary, DMT is much cleaner, you don't suffer (on a high dose and when you break through), everything is so smooth and lasts much shorter although it seams like ethernity. With K you go through plenty of mental pain, its torturing you until you let go and let everything happen as it happens. Personaly, I was sitting for 4 hours in a lotus position on K, and when you come back you appritiate life much more. DMT just takes you streight furthest you can go with drugs and returns you back where you left with first class ticket, best service you can get. While after K hole, you are actually happy because you survived, but gives you chance to learn something that DMT just simply skips. Its hard to find the exact words to describe, but both are very good (if not the best) if taken on a peak of a heavy acid trip. Hope this helps to understand, although nobody can explain it to you until you go through it.
k was always nice to me, very gentle. went through a gram in a couple hours, didn't faze me. because I used to love pcp, which makes k look like a whippit. extreme dissociation never let me out in a bad place, but I know not everyone can say that. though I'd have to put dmt higher than k on my top 3 list: 1. dmt 2. psilocin 3. ketamine
Did you ever try a 1/4 of a gram in just one line? To me if its smaller than that its always nice and gentle, rocking you with love, but try that monster of a line (aprox. 5mm wide and 10 cm long) and you'll see what I am talking about.
ive done 0.5g in one line, went to my bed, layed down, smoked a ciggie, finished it n waited for the trip to begin, couldnt move, didnt knw who i am, left my body, looked at myself from the outside, traveled through space, saw my whole past infront of me, blended into surroudnings like i was just a soul, its amazing, i think lsd is living, n ketamine is dying, never tried dmt though... my k hole trip was so amazing cuz i knew what was comin fro research n reading, n i didnt wanna try to move or use any of my senses, i just let the drug control me, it was great...
yessir, done really FAT lines; really put me out of it, thought I was talking to alien spirits in a closet. don't like doing ket unless I'm diving into a k-hole. was never a dark experience for me, as I said. I hung my hat on 'wet', which is way harder. 4-8hrs of heavy dissociation, vs. a 50min k-hole. a pinner of phencyclidine (roughly 10mg) on parsley is like an all day k-hole and a half. those days are gone, but i'm always down for ket and dmt.
yeah i totally agree with u, doin ketamine in small amounts makes no sense to me, its k hole or nuthin to me... i noticed u live in montreal, i studied 2 years there at mcgill, hated the weather so now im back home in the middle east... i love summers there though, actually im comin there in too weeks, its gonna be one hell of a drugged out vacation!
Haha wow poly I havent even seen wet in years, and havent thought about it at all in the past 2-3 years. Thanks for bringing back some, erm, memories
DMT is more comparable to a highly concentrated salvia extract than Ketamine. If you want something similar get some salvia 25X or above, it will blow your mind.
Please stop spreading ignorant information. If you knew, you would know n,n-dmt is in no way comparable to salvia. thanks.
All I said was that DMT is more comparable to salvia than a k-hole. This is true, I don't think there was any need for that response.
No! salvia is nothing like DMT at all. You think smoke shops could sell salvia if the trip was anything like DMT?!
sorry, but thats almost just as ignorant a thing to say. salvia is a powerful psychedelic that is only legal because it gained popularity during a low point in the war on drugs, and was therefore not criminalized and hunted down in the same manor as the many drugs before it, including cannabis. the only decent links between salvia and dmt are the short duration, as well as the powerful effects. but they are nowhere close to belonging in the same grouping
DMT is still legal in a lot of places so I guess smoke shops could sell it. That's all I was saying, both will blast you out of reality for a short period of time.
