in my own post i said i was speaking for myself so sorry but how does that make some one else look bad? if some prick is gonna judge a whole forum by one guys reply then he's one stupid ****. you can say i was making myself look bad, fair comment. you can say you didn't understand what i had written again fair comment. but my post is my opinion no one esles, and if some one is going to read it and then get prejudice ideas to all who he can slightly relate to me then that isn't really my problem.
Peppy--No offense, but did you graduate high school? If you're going to post messages in a public forum, do you think it would behoove you to spell correctly, make intelligent arugments, and have sound reason? Just wonderin'.
one the left side with america's enemies, i've not taken any sides i'm just against the whole killing thing, both sides are fighting, you know like when you say to your kid after he says but he started it, "that doesn't mean you have to lower your self to his level" people seem happy to say this at a petit and personal level but then think there should be different rules when it is on the world wide scale.
And to call folks names when you disagree is the height of intellectual laziness. Calling me names just re-enforces that my points are correct. You can't answer my points with logic; thus, you attack me, and call me dirty names. Which mind you, really do hurt my feelings. My wife said she would hold me when I got home. Which is good for me, of course. I have a hot wife.
i'm english we don't have highschool i'm in my last year at college going on to univercity to study chemistry, so what if i can't spell, i'm dislexic shit on me. where was the unsound reasoning, ask me about something you didn't understand and i will happily try and explain it better man if you want to correct me on my spelling mistakes i'll even edit and change them too if it hurts you that much.
i wasn't calling you names that post wasn't even a reply to your post, i was saying for any hypothetical prick that was to be judgemental, not aimed at you at all
Peppy--You said...and let me see if I have this straight...something to the effect of "lowering youself to their level"? Okay, if that's the case, then what is America to do with the Islamofascists that want to kill Americans and blow up our cities? What do we do, since you believe in peace. Should we take the stand of peace through strength, or peace though appeasement? Please educate me.
Soulrebel--To quote you here: "I can be a rigorous thinker and say all that because....well shit, I'm a rigorous, logical thinker and I can speak (type in this case). I see you are from D.C. and you hate liberalism.... go fuck yourself you heartless fucking bitch. Your god will send you to hell." Very good. Very, very good. You really told me. Oh, and what makes you think I'm a conservative? Harry Truman is my hero, and he was a Democrat. I use my brain, and I understand American history, and there are no hippies who won wars against evil. Harry Truman murdered hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of Japanese. Quite the hero you got....and since when are all democrats liberals? Ronal Reagan started out a Democrat. Oh, and just because I live and work in Washington, DC, doesn't mean that I'm a government worker. I could be a janitor, a dishwasher, a telemarketer, a construction worker or even a farmer (yes, in the surrounding Metro DC area, there are farms). So, why do you assume that I work for the federal government? Just a guess of mine. However, I will say that I spent time in Iraq from April to June doing public affairs for the Coalition Provisional Authority (CPA) until the transfer of power. That's nice. Now ask if anybody cares. And what I find so ironic is that you hippies and Leftists talk about human rights, the rights of women and all the rest, but the Iraqi men and women I met talk about the horror of the last 30 years under Saddam. Those dead people sure are going to enjoy freedom, aren't they? One Iraqi man said that Saddam and his sons would drill holes in Iraqis' heads, and then pour acid in their brain. I've never supported Saddam. Human rights are your mantra? Really. The torture, killing, raping, and mutilation of innocent civilians doesn't outrage you, but George W. Bush is a bad, bad man? George Bush is the leader of the American military....the American military has tortured, killed, and raped innocent Iraqis. Fuck George Bush and the American military. What is even funnier, Bush is HUGELY popular with regular Iraqis. Yes, I can feel the love in the numerous Iraqi-filmed documentaries I've watched. There are 18 providences in Iraq, and only 2 are unstable. The other 16 providences are peaceful and calm. It sure is amazing what imperialism can do, isn't it? Dr. Allawi is on the ground there, and you're not. No shit. And for you guys to say you know what is going on in Iraq is the height of hypocrisy. Women and children are now going to school, are going to vote in the first time in Iraqi history. What about the dead civilians slaughtered by American bombings and the U.S. sponsored UN sanctions against the country? What the fuck is freedom going to do for all them? And this is bad to you? I am against imperialism and capitalism, so yes. I'm SO thankful that hippies were not around during World War II, because it took 405,000 Americans dying to defeat fascism. Yet fascism is still around in our own country. We are now, as Churchill once said, in a battle "for victory at any cost, because without victory, there is no survival." Of course there is no survival; we're all fucked. The Middle Eastern countries will probably strike back, and the draft is going to be most likely reinstated. No survival indeed. Again, if you hippies would have been around during WWII, you would have sided with Hitler over Roosevelt, and then Truman; you would have protested Truman's decision to drop two atomic bombs on Japan. The Japanese had been wanting, since May of that year, to surrender, they just needed a reason. I suggest you research what you talk about. Oh, and while I'm at it, Hitler didn't attack us on 7 December 1941; however, in response to Pearl Harbor, FDR attacked BOTH Germany and Japan. Why? Glad you hippies queried. Because FDR knew that the world was under attack from fascism. And it had to be defeated. FDR was a great man; and I have researched World War II extensively. I don't question any of FDR's moves, except for raping the Pacific Fleet of its resources when the Japanese attack was imminent. George W. Bush knows that the world is again under attack by fascism, but the only difference now is that you hippies and others on the Left side with America's enemies Who is that fascist? Bush is as much a fascist as Saddam was, if not more. Saddam was an evil man who killed his own people, Bush has yet to do so. Other than that, Bush's Administration has all the other points of fascism covered. just like you did during the Cold War when Ronald Reagan defeated the Soviet Union. We won, you lost. I didn't lose anything, I wasn't alive at that time. History will repeat itself again--we will win, and hippies will lose. Think again; the people of this Planet are more educated about politics and warfare than ever before. Did the Republican National Convention's protests not show anything or are you stuck on watching FOXNews? Got it, Soulrebel? Not one bit. Put that in your peace pipe and smoke it and lose more brain cells. I haven't smoked a thing in over two months. Oh, and by the way, smoking pot is against the law, just in case you didn't know. See. I'm lookin' out for you. You're not looking out for anybody.
And to call folks names when you disagree is the height of intellectual laziness. That's possibly true, but for me its due to a little thing called "passion." Calling me names just re-enforces that my points are correct. You go on thinking that. You can't answer my points with logic; thus, you attack me, and call me dirty names. I can answer all your points with logical, factual answers. I call you dirty names because you support the murder and slaughter of the Iraqi people and all Muslims in general I'm guessing. Which mind you, really do hurt my feelings. I'm sure they do. My wife said she would hold me when I got home. Which is good for me, of course. I have a hot wife. That's nice, I will too.
Okay, if that's the case, then what is America to do with the Islamofascists that want to kill Americans and blow up our cities? Why don't you look at the reasons why they want to blow up our cities? Surely if America was a 3rd-World Country and had US-supported UN sanctions placed on it, you would be pissed off too. If that wouldn't do it, I'm sure that the bombings of schools and pharmaceutical factories would've done so. If you are still not affected by any of this, George W. calling Muslims and Middle-Easterners "uncivilized" would've done it for you. What do we do, since you believe in peace. Should we take the stand of peace through strength, or peace though appeasement? Please educate me. I think lifting the sanctions and paying the Iraqi people for the damage the U.S. government has done would do the trick.
Soulrebel--Honestly, you have to be one of the stupidest people I have ever not met. And I say this with the utmost respect. Nothing you said had any basis in fact. Especially the draft statement. I guess you didn't see the House vote on Monday when the GOP brought up the draft amendment to shut down the argument alltogether. It was defeated soundly. No one in the federal government supports a military draft. Oh, and spent five years in the USAF, and your statement: "George Bush is the leader of the American military....the American military has tortured, killed, and raped innocent Iraqis. Fuck George Bush and the American military" was horrid. What have you ever done for your country? And I make the following statement with pretty clear conviction: You will not amount to anything in life. You're going no-where in a hurry. Already 17 years old, and societal outcast. To tell the military to "fuck itself" just shows that you have zero concept of good in your heart. I don't think I've ever uttered this statement, but you are a bad American. And that's putting it mildly. But then again, the American soldier has given his life so you can be a bad American, and to bad-mouth your country. You have that right, because others have done more than you'll ever do by having courage, honor, and character. All which you lack. And yes, you do support America's enemies. It's clear from your postings that you do not support the United States in a time of war.
Soulrebel--Honestly, you have to be one of the stupidest people I have ever not met. You must not get out much. And I say this with the utmost respect. Go fuck yourself. I say this with the least amount of respect possible. Nothing you said had any basis in fact. Quote a part of my post that you think I am lying about, I can back it up. Especially the draft statement. I guess you didn't see the House vote on Monday when the GOP brought up the draft amendment to shut down the argument alltogether. I seen it. It was defeated soundly. No one in the federal government supports a military draft. Then how are Kerry and Bush going to get the amount of troops they need? Oh, and spent five years in the USAF, My dad spent over 20 years in the army, big fucking deal. and your statement: "George Bush is the leader of the American military....the American military has tortured, killed, and raped innocent Iraqis. Fuck George Bush and the American military" was horrid. I think George Bush being in command is more horrid. What have you ever done for your country? So far, I have written an uncountable amount of letters to Congress and the State Legislature, and starting tomorrow I am once again working with the Monroe County Nader campaign, handing out flyers, setting up a table, and informing people on the wonderfulness of Ralph Nader. I was doing the same before, but I quit to go work on the Kerry campaign, seeing as how Nader has no chance whatsoever....but I could not work for John Kerry and not have a guilty consciounce, he's nearly as evil as George Bush. And I make the following statement with pretty clear conviction: You will not amount to anything in life. Hahaha is all I have to say to that. Remember the name "Chuck Hall," I will be as big, or nearly as big, as Abbie Hoffman. You're going no-where in a hurry. I'm already at nowhere. The only direction is out. Already 17 years old, and societal outcast. I think you mean "only 17 years old, and is a danger to this country because of his free-thinking." To tell the military to "fuck itself" just shows that you have zero concept of good in your heart. I have no good in my heart? I am patriotic to this country, but I do not agree with the govrenment. There has been nothing good about the government since John F. Kennedy, and I am going to help others like me show the people of the U.S. the horrors of our government, and how much they do not care about us. I don't think I've ever uttered this statement, but you are a bad American. And that's putting it mildly. Do you say this because I am activist at heart? Patriotism without activism is blind tolerance. This country was founded on acting against the ruling government, are Paul Revere and George Washington and the others with them bad Americans for going against the government? But then again, the American soldier has given his life so you can be a bad American, and to bad-mouth your country. I don't badmouth the country, I badmouth the government. I support the American soldiers; they have no other choice if they want to eat. The majority of soldiers in the army had to enlist so that they can get money for food to eat because of the horrible shape the economy's in. You have that right, because others have done more than you'll ever do by having courage, honor, and character. All which you lack. I don't lack any of that. And yes, you do support America's enemies. It's clear from your postings that you do not support the United States in a time of war. Is it that obvious? I support the Iraqi Freedom Fighters (whom you call "insurgents")...they are doing what the colonists did against the British; fighting imperialism for their own freedom. This war doesn't have shit to do with spreading freedom, its all about spreading American ways, which the Iraqis obviously do not want.
Soulrebel--PS: Yes, FOX News Channel rocks. Brit Hume is an honest man. "Fox News" and "honesty" will never go together as long as Rupert Murdoch owns it. How come that all of the conservatives that were whining about a liberal bias in the media shut the fuck up as soon as FOXNews hit the airwaves? If a news channel calls the Israeli destruction of Palestinian houses "ok and justified" then that channel can no longer be believed, if you have a heart and a mind of your own.
soulrebel, he's not the kinda person that is gonna listen care or change, and argueing with him here isn't going to do anything so focus your efforts on the good work you are doing for these elections and strengthening your vews and background knowledge 'cause when you get out there on your neo Yippie movement there are gonna be too many fuckers just like this one and i wish you all the luck man.
Soulrebel--First, your last sentence that you support the "insurgents" in Iraq. They are Al Qaeda members, not freedom fighters. They are sworn enemies of the United States; therefore, the only conclusion I came muster is that you are a enemy of the United States. Look, you're not too smart and that is clear. You're not a very bright person, and you want to be like Abbie Hoffman. Nice. He killed himself in 1989. The world is better off without him. He was a loser and a perfect example of why drugs are for losers. So, you're going to be bigger than Abbie Hoffman? Does that mean you're going to kill yourself earlier? Are you going to be proud to go to jail for drugs, and then go hide underground before you come back out and protest the the government of the United States. Also, you are supporting Nader? Good. More votes for Nader equal votes for George W. Bush. We thank you. I have seen some intelligent postings on this site--few mind you--but I will admit that you're one of the least rigorous thinkers going. You are an intellectual moron. Search your feelings...you know this to be true. Also, what do your parents think of you? Are they proud of you? Are they proud that you're an outcast and a supporter of Al Qaeda in Iraq?
why don't you just go man, this isn't even a debate any more, just a slagging match well done you win you're the last person to say the best insult, rebel just let it be, if he thinks he's bigger and better and stronger by put down your beleifs and bitching on you then let him live in his lickle fantasy.