I'm at the point now where I can't help myself, and I'm willing to admit it and get help before it gets too out of hand. I bought yesterday a bottle of T1's (300mgAPAP/15mgCaffiene/8mgCodeine) and although I'm doing CWE's, it's still over 11 grams of APAP per serving, before the extraction... But the extraction doesn't get it all, and I can feel that it's not getting it all (it's easy for me to tell the APAP high from the codeine high). Usually I would'nt do codeine, just oxycontin/mscontin but I'm starting to get psychologically addicted (I never get physical withdrawl/addiction from opiates). I just think about opiates all the time. I go for a bike ride and look in everyone's backyard for someone who has poppies in their garden, its also one of my biggest talked-about topics in any conversation I have with friends, and if I'm on a computer with internet I'm usually either reading info on opiates or watching people do them on Youtube or Google Video or something. It's smashing my friendships, my bankroll, and my life... opiates have no mercy, and I am finally able to experience it first hand, years after first starting. But, I have a friend who used to do oxycontin all the time and he got into a Methadone Clinic. He says all you have to do is go there, say you're addicted and then piss positive for opiates then they start you on a regimen of Methadone. I'm pretty sure there's a cost associated (like $20 or $30 a dose) but I would rather pay to get off this ride than pay to stay on. Is it really this easy? My biggest fear is that they will try to bust me for some reason as I do not look like a druggie, I look more like the kid who sucks up to cops and does no wrong. I wear fairly nice (expensive LOOKING) clothes too. I just think that they'll go "This kid is just trying to get it and sell it", and I think this even though I know that they would give me the dose there, not take-homes (not for a while at least). I need some help, I just want to know if it is easy to get on Methadone. I'm tired of destroying my liver on APAP and walking across the city @ 1am to go get some pills.
im no doctor but ive had plenty of experince with methodone clinics (2 go arounds,once for two years then four more)and one thing you said makes me think you should try other treatments first is you stateted youve never been physicaly addicted.and if methodone does anything it gets you very physicaly addicted.(sickness not as intense as oc or heroin but lasts for so much longer iwas dopesick for 2 months and didnt feel "normal" for about six months.and I quit the right way tappering off slowly about 5 milligrams a month if you fall behind on your bill ,12 dollars a day where i went ,or broke the clinics rules they rapid detox you.my friend had this happen he went into seizures after a few days) The methodone only helps mental cravings while your on it the urge hits you again after you begin to detox.like i said im no doctor but i think methodone is a last resort treatment and it sounds like your not that far gone yet.i do think you should try to speak with someone because if your even considering methodone treatment you obviously have an issue.the sooner you get help the better your chance.i know it helps to talk with someone whos been there if you need someone im at growlovely13@yahoo.com.one thing ive found is there is no majic treatment just one long battle .best of luck with whatever you chose
Hey Twizz, Have you looked into suboxone. I've heard that you can slowly taper down with little withdrawls.. Its expensive though if you don't have insurance.. Go to Bluelight there is shitloads of info there on the shit.. When I get to the point that is the route I'm going to take.. You can also detox in a couple of weeks with Suboxone Good Luck Man wish you the best
Just to let you know befor you fuck yourself by getting in a methadone clinic, withdrawels from methadone are at least 3-4 weeks long. That means no sleep, no eat, its no good at all. I'm on methadone right now, detoxing from 60 mg and i was a heavy heroine addict. Just sweat it out for a week or get on suboxone for a few week detox would be my opinion.
Snap, I was shooting 7 grams of H a day before I went for Methadone treatment (Luckily it's available for prescription cost in the U.K, £7.00 a fortnight ). Have been detoxing from 120ml, am down to 6mls now, and I feel shit all the time, the itch to use is back with a vengance, I would only ever recommend Methadone if you have no other choice, luckily for you it sounds like you're not in too deep yet, as the poster above says Suboxone is a far easier to reduce off than Methadone, or you could just bite the bullet and sweat it out, everyone who uses opiates should do at least one raw rattle, you never know it may just be enough to put you off getting a habit again.
if its just a lingering thought in your head and not a physical addiction you just need to keep your time filled until its no longer in the back of your mind... get out and do something.. anything.. just keep your mind busy enough to not think about it and you'll be fine
Yes, very insane but true, 7 grams easy, of (usually) 40%-50% pure and either 2-3g coke, or about 5-6 crack rocks on top . I was selling a hell of a lot of H at the time, so had access to large amounts of cash and drugs. By this point I had lost all hope of ever getting clean, so I just sat around shooting more and more H every day, basically I was waiting to die I was so fucked up. When I went into Hospital with Cellulitis, the Doctors all came and stood round me talking to each other and prodding at me, when I asked what they were doing, they all said they couldn't believe I was still alive! I had almost 3 times the lethal dose of H in my system (for an addict with high tolerence, not the lethal dose for a newb), they wouldn't even give me any pain relief for my rotting leg, or any Methadone for my withdrawals for nearly a week, twats.... Still am hopefully past that shit now, I been Heroin free for nearly 2 years, and in the next few weeks I will be Opiate free too. Still can't stop smoking bud though, crazy really when you think about what I was hooked on beforehand
^thats fuckin incredible... anyways, to Twizz, how bad was your daily habit? Like how much oxycontin or heroin did you use daily? because if its not that much, its not worth going to a methadone clinic, maybe you can get some suboxone and slowly stop using. Unless you have absolutely no self-control, then yes, I suggest you get help.
Has anyone here researched Ibogaine at all? I watched a doc about a man who was addicted to smack for 6 years and on methadone for 12 and he managed to get off it all with ibogaine. It sounds terrible and can potentially kill you, but it might be worth a look.
i've read only good things about ibogaine and it being successful. but thats a crazy ass story, that 7 grams one.
Is Ibogain the one where they put you out for 24hrs, and pump you full of that shit? If so, I know one of my friends got off H by that shit, he was on H for 15yrs, and Methadone for 10, at 40 he went into a private clinic, they put him under and a few days later he was fine, I couldn't believe it. Still it didn't stop him going back on it after a few months, cost him about £4000 as well!
^ no, i think its only in africa where they do this. but people's mental addictions are forgotten, although the trip, yes, you hallucinate is supposed to be horrifying and you're physically withdrawing at the same time causing agony, but once the couple of days are over its like a reawakening. yes, it does last days i think, just read on erowid.
they will not bust you for going to the methadone clinic. here you have to get a blood test to make sure you are on opiates first. if i were you (and i have been on methadone several times) i would sign up for the maintenance program and then only go and get your dose for 7 days and then stop. if you do this you will escape the w/d and not get addicted to the methadone which is a much longer w/d than other opiates - like 2 months of hell - and it takes a long time to taper off methadone and i still had w/d even after tapering off to practically none.
