2c-x Danger?

Just looking into the dangers of these RCs.

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/2ct7/2ct7_death1.shtml

This one is the most worth looking at. http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/2ct7/2ct7_death2.shtml


And finally a problem directly related to 2c-E use.
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=42793

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Update, some members personal problems, or not problems... who knows.

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I think that the death2 report found on erowid suggests potential foul play.

Read it again. He was violent - people had to forcibly remove him from the house. That means there was a fight (call it a struggle if you like - it's only semantics).

Try to remove someone who's freaking out and (possibly) swinging punches while you yourself are heavily messed up. Not easily done without hurting the guy, potentially very badly.

The report also notes that the cause of death was not, in fact, determined.

I suspect his death can be attributed to overdosing, in part, to the heavy vomiting it caused (which can also occur with over-indulgence of alcohol, and certain foods), and quite possibly a fairly thorough shit-kicking.

I think the bottom line is that groups of kids should NOT do hard drugs together.

Peacelove,
Aldousage

 

Here's my story with 2C-E damages

For the beginning trials with 2C-E I really did no other drug habitually, besides LSD once in a short while, not even weed at the time I was ordering 2C-E a while back.

Though I will personally admit that 'I believe' 2C-E 'may have' caused me some physical damages, and perhaps a few other people I've shared it with too. When I was doing 2C-E more consistantly, probably like a few times a week, some times only a day or two in between, it was like my insides were constantly churning, my stomach always ached.. during and after the drugs effects were off. As if it didn't suck to eat already with that happening, I would throw the meal up eventually anyway. One of my good friends has been dealing with some hard stomach issues lately, and it would make sense as the problems started around the same time she tried it (and that was months ago). Though my stomach issues eventually passed and I eat fine now anyway.

But, I also 'think' it 'may' have damaged my central nervous system, as I've had some lingering effect that I believe first started around after I first snorted a big dose, probably 10-20mg. It's like random muscles in my body will twitch every now and then, only a very slight tugging sensation, nothing too extreme or noticeable, "benign fasciculation". They also become more pronounced now though if I do choose to smoke marijuana. They are always a bit strong after I take 2C-E, though over the course of a few weeks they become less and less to barely noticeable. Though they are still there.

Anyway, you never know the toxic potentials behind a 2C chemical, so play safe! I'm sure it's always better to eat vs. snort as the chemical is actually being filtered somewhat before it reaches your brain.

 

shit dude, you might want to take a break and let shit heal perhaps??
my friend left a little powder of 2ct2 on his finger and it actually like blistered and turned red like it was burning so id say def. acidic....

 

Well, yes. The 2c's are pretty caustic. That's why they burn so damn much when you snort them. Try putting a tiny bit under your tongue and leave it there for 20 minutes. It'll start to burn just as if you snorted it... because the chemicals are caustic and are causing "burns" to the mucous membranes of your nose and mouth. Your stomach can handle them fine, though

As to the original question, yes, these are "Research Chemicals" because not much official research has been performed on them yet. So strange, unheard of reactions can occur, problems from use could arise many years in the future. Tread cautiously and remember YOU ARE being the lab rat... if that's unsettling to you, then stay away from rcs.

 

well what about the newly aroused, perhaps long term stomach damage that these rc's could be causing??

 

Dude, there is hydrochloric acid in your stomach. I wouldn't worry about that.

I've tried 2c-i and 2c-e and I must say both felt like pretty natural drugs; like my body was just very well made to receive them.

I do have very strong physical reactions to 2c-e, though; the main one being phlegm production. It's funny that I haven't read about this so much. I've notified erowid about this but they have not put it up on the page. When I take 2c-e, my body seems to go in a sort of "cold" phase for a couple of hours, my blood pressure rises, my temperature rises, I get chills and feel weak, and I can feel that my body is getting ready to do something. Then I start coughing, and I cough hard for about an hour. I also salivate like on no other psychedelic. Afterwards I am fine. But I could fill a bucket with my spit and phlegm. I sometimes go into bouts of cough so bad that I feel like I could puke; the mucus comes from deep inside my lungs. It feels very much like a cleanse and I feel good afterwards, very clean and pure. But I would not suggest people with strong asthma to try this, at least not without a bronchodilatator pump around. Definitely not a music festival drug for me.

 

dude these are the hazard symbols they give to a chemical (C18H17NO4) used in the synthesis of 2ci...

who knows if they are stronger then hydrochloric acid....

 

Gastric acid is one of the main secretions of the stomach, together with several enzymes and intrinsic factor. Chemically it is an acid solution with a pH of 1 to 2 in the stomach lumen, consisting mainly of hydrochloric acid (HCl), and small quantities of potassium chloride (KCl) and sodium chloride (NaCl).

 

dude i wouldnt be worried about it.. pH of 1-2 is extremely acidic, some 2c-i is not going to fuck it all up.. now i dont know about taking 2c-i every other day for months, but a dose here and there will surely do no damage to your intestines

 

yeah, i thought i edited that post to say nvm, because thats about as high as pH can go haha.... but idk i think its still hazardous besides just the pH level..

 

Honestly if I was aware of the negative potential before I took the drug I don't think I would of ever started with 2C-E, .. at least doing stupid shit with it like snorting -- Though I am pretty much done with it anyway. Some people it has managed to fuck up really hardcore, so if you're starting to get any lingering after effects give it up for a while.. "2cesarewild", a member here, could probably go on and on about all the physical damages it left him with...

 

You are dissolving the 2c-i in water, before drinking it. It is going to be near neutral water depending on how much water you add, and the pH of 2c-i.

Great thread though.

 

Yeah the dude had some severe/permanent GI problems, but he ate A LOT of 2ce, and very often. lol

During all of my 2ce trips, I've always gotten a sensation in my eyeballs that felt like powerful electric currents shooting through my optic nerve or some shit, and I can even hear the electricity. Also, with high doses, I actually FEEL my CNS sieze up, shut down, and completely stop working for a few seconds, only to start working again. It even feels like my blood stops flowing, which is a very strange feeling. lol I know it's not actually happening, but it sure as fuck feels like it and it makes me think of what CAN and WILL happen if I continue taking those large doses too often. In the psychedelic state of mind, it always makes me feel like I'm dying and being reborn, and I find it very trippy. lol

But yeah.....there's no telling what dangers there are in over-using 2c's.

 

That doesn't mean anything. A chemical's precursors have nothing to do with its effects.

 

im just saying maybe, if there is some error during a synthesis some dangerous chemicals could potentially be left behind in an actual yield. :/ i dont know though.

 

I would hope if someone synthesizing fucked it up they would toss the batch... I would hope...

Edit: Oh cool I got stickied

 

What you describe dont exactly sound too healthy lol. Shocking eyeballs? Enoughs enough lol

 

hahaha Yeah it'll probably be a while before I get some more anyway. I've only ordered 2ce 3 times, so I don't THINK I do it often enough to cause any damage, but I could be wrong. haha I went through my last 250mg within 9 days though, so that may not be too healthy either. lol

 

250mg in 9 days by yourself? How often did you take it and what dose?