Souls existence are we more than just matteR

Discussion in 'Mind Games' started by Sir-.-'nOOBalloT, Aug 13, 2008.

  1. Sir-.-'nOOBalloT

    Sir-.-'nOOBalloT Member

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    Soul those it exist or is it just a myth?


    First of our physical body's and memory's are physical there for when we die thats it its the end right?
    Well how about the fact that our body's are not older that 10 years old at any given time,approximately every seven to nine years almost all the matter in the body changes at the atomic level, including the brain. So what keeps us who we are throu out our physical life if our body's are completely different in a sens every 10 years we should become a new person totally unrecognizable to the previous one.


    Ok how about near death experiences.
    A chemist, after being blinded a year earlier in an accident, correctly reported the visual details surrounding his near death experience. Other individuals who had been blind for years (and were tested for blindness again afterward) accurately described the design and colors of clothing and jewelry worn by those around them when they almost died. Habermas and Moreland report that these cases are not rare; they are unexpectedly common.
    A woman who had both a flat EEG( brain activity) reading and no vital signs had been declared dead. But she spontaneously revived about three-and-a-half hours later. In fact, she regained consciousness and lifted the sheet off her face as she was being taken to the morgue by an orderly! Then she reported that she had floated over her body during the resuscitation attempts. She precisely described not only the procedures that were used in her attempted rescue but also the number of persons who came into the hospital room and what they said. All this happened after she had no brain activity whatsoever.


    Heres a little mind fuck my earliest memory is from when I was not yet born.
    So one day I was taking with my mom and conversation drifted to earliest memory's I told here my one. It was of here learning to wind surf when she heard that she said thats weird I was not yet marred to your dad and u where not yet born d.
    ROFL
    I belief in reincarnation and from my point of view everyone gets to chose there own parents before they are born so the soul can learn and mature from the lessons it choses.


    So if u have any proof or disproof on souls post it here.
     
  2. Nikalaus

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    ooooo

    goodie...

    finally.

    This is realllyyy simple. So pay attention folks.

    Philosophy 101:

    I think therefor I am/exist.

    Everything you are become and do comes from a thought.

    so...

    If You are equipped with a mind that can think of supernatural things. i.e.: Walking through walls flying, defying laws of the material world.

    Then...

    Therefor this very simple logic stipulates a requirement for one to accept that the only way for this to be possible is that your consciousness itself is an energy that is above the material world. Is it your soul or is it grounded in your "soul" that's debatable. But I for one have no choice but to tend to believe that your conscious energy itself is the "soul"
     
  3. Sir-.-'nOOBalloT

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    Dunno man that would mean animals don't have souls and I belief even trees have them.
    Then again year ago there was one scientist who wanted to weigh the soul so what he did was he got a hold of some body's that just past away and he weigh them and ones more after some time. He got at average about 21 grams difference,when he tryd it with dogs and other animal there was no diffidence so he concluded that animals don't have a souls only humans do.
    But theres a problem I don't think that soul weighs anything atoll o_O?
     
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    but what does it matter? in the end youll see you have the same feelings and observations as the end table over theres..
    What are you doing?
    Everything around you is doing something, aluminum can serves a purpose, it does know this but cant change its place since your soul is on a higher level/ plane. Should you come down to the sub atomic level you have aluminum in you.. what holds you together but seperates you from the can. just the way you think about it.
    You honor the can for its strength and endurance and maybe it will give you some of its stored energy.. telling things thank you for helping me pen, paper, computer. Praise in objects goes back alongs a ways so Im not going to burst into how you should say thanks, but now adays ppl try to say thanks to everything all at once..
    Like think you all objects in room.. But you have to thank objects individually and not in groups as you use them. Youll see they have a Soul and can share their energy more should you be positive how the matter your using is helping you be matter and exist along with it..
    "squeeky wheels".. Object is telling you something it needs attention and if you give it love and attention and some oil it will thank you and reward you for as long as it can by laws of wear.. you to are aware and thats about it..
    But just cause you cant hear the can tell the other can "that show on tv is cool" dont mean its not happening.. you can only say what matters to you..
    If you listen to a train it has a soul, thinking of how many human hands go into it and its working..
    as much as we hate building and destroying our planet. Humans are in charge or alot of matter.. Lots of power we take for granted and something is watching..
    All this can not be without a higher level of existance.
    theres plenty of room in the galaxy and universe for all the souls and all the things that matter thats why your currently existing and will be observing this for a long time.. Soul searching like your doing now..
     
  5. ZeroxBleach

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    I have a before birth memory of a table my mom sold in a yard sale before I was born. I told her about it when we were eating at a restaraunt that had the same designed table. She freaked out a little bit that I could remember something before I was even born.

    If I had to think of a theory as to why this maybe, the most obvious reason could be that someone told me about it as a child and my mind just erased the fact I was told about it. In that perspective, I'd think the memory was mine alone.

    The mind is a great and terrible thing. I personally don't know if we have souls or not, but I'm not going to bother myself with blind faith. I simply believe that if it hasn't been disproven, then there's no reason it can't exist.

    So I could have a soul, I could not. I'll not know until I die.
     
  6. Sir-.-'nOOBalloT

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    Interesting thinking that every little thing haves a soul am not deniaing it but but whats the point for a can to have a soul. What would the soul learn from being a can maybe our definitions of a soul are different. When I say soul a think of some sort of memory bank that exists in our material world but its made out of something ells and it choses a living body to learn from that life,it does not control the body its more like the soul is the massinger of the body.


    Actually if any of u guys have a definition of soul I would like to read it?


    ZeroxBlech the simplest answer most of the time is the right one. But u try to say that someone told u about the table why would someone tell this to a baby and how did u know the design of it,surly no one sad down and descript the design of a table that was simply sold before u where even born.
     
  7. Sir-.-'nOOBalloT

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    One more thing when u guys where little kids did any of u had any ghost encounters? I read that baby's and young kids are more open to the spirit world because the soul is more dominate of the body before the memory's of the physical body take over.
    I used to talk to a ghost when I was a little kid and well I know this sounds weird but I remember being picket up in the air few times by what I thing was a ghost or soul there was no image of it just the feel of it.
    But now nothing like that happens to me anymore.
     
  8. ZeroxBleach

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    well, I said as a child. And by telling me about it, they could've showed me a photo that had the table in the background or something as well.

    I wasn't saying that was what happened, I'm saying it's a theory. That could've been a reason.

    I never say my "anwsers" if you call them that, are correct. I merely put out the theories and try to come up with as much evidence to suggest that they're true as possible.

    When it comes to Scientific theory nothing is fact, nothing is proven, there is only evidence to suggest that those theories are true. Gravity isn't a fact, there's just a ton of evidence that it does exist.

    When I talk about faith bound topics such as souls, heaven, hell, etc. etc. I tend to look at it in this way. There's no reason it doesn't exist, but there's not much evidence suggesting that it does either.

    It's the mysteries in life that further scientific research, I'm just a much more scientific based person than faith based.
     
  9. Sir-.-'nOOBalloT

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    Yeah I figured that u more of a scientific kind of guy don't get me wrong me to but when it comes to soul existents am 99% sure its real based on my own experiences and from the stuff I read. So its kinda natural for me to try to turn ppl to the same way of thinking. I just think if a person beliefs in souls they have a better life they try to bee kinder and theres no need to bee afraid of death...




    And faith I don't like that word I think of religion automatically and all religions are bullshit.
    Soul is something natural its not faith its just a part of a person not some guy up in the clouds with a white beard now thats faith.


    Heres a little story.
    A doctor a scientific kinda guy I guess went in to coma after few days he woke up and said that he floated all around the hospital and at one point he went to this baby that cry d all the time and he ask t whats wrong baby answered my hip hearts.
    So ppl went with the doctors theory and x rayd the baby's hip and what do u know the doctor was right they found a crack t hip.
    How would that by possible with out souls existents.


    But hey everyone makes there own mind up so am just gonna shut up xD
     
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    death dont exist..
     
  11. Sir-.-'nOOBalloT

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    it sure does exist but its not the end
     
  12. andallthatstocome

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    souls exist, in some respect. We are continuous on an energetic level. In reality, all moments are concurrent and simultaneous, as are all the experiences of all things. A living soul is a god, in the sense that it is timeless and highly influential on the physical world. Gods remain gods not because they are deathless, but because they transcend death. death becomes as necessary a condition of greater existence as breathing is to life.
     
  13. Nikalaus

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    lol... ney noob sounds like your about ready to watch A PBS documentary called "The Elegant Universe".

    Trust me. All that 'IS' ... "IS". and by that i mean all that "is" is interconnected.
     
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