Anything similar to acid/shrooms but shorter lasting/happier?

Discussion in 'Psychedelics' started by pooty, Aug 21, 2008.

  1. pooty

    pooty Member

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    Are there any psychedelics that are shorter in duration? I use to love tripping until I had a few bad ones.

    There was nothing worse that having a bad trip 1 hour into it, feeling like you've been in this nightmare forever, yet sane enough to realize you have 10 hours to go.

    Shrooms were of course happier/shorter than acid, and didn't leave me feeling as greasy, but I'm looking for something even better, RCs maybe?
     
  2. sw0o0sh

    sw0o0sh Banned

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    I wouldn't let a bad experience bum you if I were you, anyway. We all have em from time to time. If you look into the spiritual nature of psychedelics you may just find that it was digging up something deep and repressed. Get informed, read about them a little more. If you can't do that, be more careful with set and setting and perhaps have a close buddy help guide you through the rough ends.

    Though, for something shorter.. and RC based.. there is the 4-aco's, but those are hard to find without having vending knowledge and connections, and I'd assume even harder to find outside the internet. As far as the happier aspect, it is what you make of it. They all have the euphoric potential.
     
  3. -beatnick

    -beatnick Senior Member

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    The one you'd have best of luck with would probably be Ketamine.
     
  4. pooty

    pooty Member

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    Well the problem is I use to love acid, had great trips. In college we'd drop for almost any reason, kinda screwed up my classwork. I didn't care though, just feeling like I could taste or see music was more important. Then the bad trips started, and it was torture.

    I layed off for years, then came across an old friend that was growing shrooms. He told me how it was much happier than acid, much cleaner. I decided to try it and took some home to dose with my gf. She was working and I couldn't wait so I dosed with another friend watching me (he didn't but has tripped before).

    It was insane, didn't think it would be as intense and acid, but I was wrong. I was freaking out a little, so my friend took me out on a drive at night thinking it would do me good. All I would see in the trees were terrifying and confusing. I told him to take me home. I told him I wanted to be alone, I insisted he leave and he did. Bad idea.

    It got progressively worse and I was so damn confused. Kept going into this cycle of thinking I was insane, saying I was gonna be ok, just tripping, passing by a mirror and seeing myself, getting confused, and repeating.

    I've tried K after smoking bud a few times and I don't even remember what it was like. My GF said she thought she was dead at one point, so we stopped trying to get any after that. Maybe the bud masked the effects, but I would have though the K would take over? Maybe I'll try it again on it's own.

    Even after all those bad experiences, I miss a really good trip. I have to say I love MDMA (haven't done that in a long time either), but the best acid trips I've had blow it away. I'm reading up on some different stuff, maybe I'll try to get some 2C-b or 5-MeO-MIPT in a low dose.
     
  5. sw0o0sh

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    You gotta try and catch what's triggering them thoughts, cause a psychedelic is a psychedelic and the bad trip potential will be there for mostly any. If I could give any solid advice, I'd say just go with the flow of trip, don't resist what's happening to you.. that's peoples number one mistake.. always having some weird ass fear they are going to "lose control".. or "go insane".. truth is, when you're acting like that during the trip, you pretty much are already being like that.

    You obviously by then lost your intents to make anything good of the trip (no control), and now you think you need to be alone to ride the rest off, and to everybody else you appear as disturbed and withdrawn (seeming insane). Resisting the trip is a problem for a lot of people, you just gotta try and work with it, face your fears, let go, and realize there is nothing to fear on your trip! Your fears are always rooted within yourself.

    But i'm no therapist, so I'll stop there.. I would just really like to see you go with it and have that good trip. It's the idea of a bad trip that gets people, practically placebo badness. If you didn't know that trips could go bad or had some anxious belief they might make you insane, would you worry of such things?

    Anyway, whatever you decide to do, good luck with them RCs
    :) peace
     
  6. Aldousage

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    I think that 3 or 4mg (if that's TOO mellow, try 6mg the next time) of 5-MeO-MiPT would be a very good way to go. Short duration, mellow trip, no nasty come down (in my experience, and those I've tripped with/spoken to.

    That said, it's a good time. Not boring. Not much in the way of visuals (to me, colours - particularly from natural sources, are prettier), but pleasantly euphoric and with aphrodisiac properties.

    Peacelove and wishes of good luck,
    Aldousage
     
  7. iamthewalrus22

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    Well i know dmt only lasts 5 minutes (but if your looking for a mellow trip its the opposite lol), you have obes and very intense shit from what i hear, so maybe if you only smoked 1/5 of the normal amount of dmt or whatever you could have a trip like lsd for only 5 minutes.. i dunno
     
  8. sw0o0sh

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    Smoked DMT is 20-40 minutes respectively.
    And by any means that would not be the right trip for the OP lol.
     
  9. stalk

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    I'd say 15
     
  10. pooty

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    I know it's about the setting and the attitude, but sometimes it's hard to just flow with it, when the flow is EVIL.

    But you might be right about the fear of a bad trip causing the bad trip. I'm thinking I started getting bad trips because my friend back then and roomie started getting bad trips setting a weird tone. He ended up stopping before me, couldn't even smoke bud w/o freaking out anymore.

    He'd turn to me and say "we're on the road to hell....let's go." A look of absolute fear in his face. He run into a closet, peek his head out, then kind of bounce it up and down to the floor. Actually that wasn't the really the main thing, I think it was more after the trips when he'd actually describe what he was going through. That's what scared me the most.

    Now the only thing is, how do I NOT think about it. Don't think of a pink elephant, don't think about it....DAMN I can't help it!!

    So, ya I think I'll try to get something a bit milder=)
     
  11. Severely stoned

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    Try DMT, Ketamine, Some RCs might work for you too.
     
  12. StonerBill

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    i say try DMT if you can
    too short for it to be a bad trip
    long enough to show you the uni-verse
     
  13. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    why not just do a smaller dose??
    then as your confidence builds slowly up your dosage over a few trips.. it is the easiest way i know of to put that fear of a bad trip behind you..
    cause there aint nothin gonna compare to a good clean L trip....

    makes sense to me....
     
  14. StonerBill

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    acid trip is long, shrooms is also longer thn most drugs
     
  15. jaytee

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    candy fliiiiiiip
     
  16. sw0o0sh

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    People need to ask themselves if they're a frequent bad tripper, "Why don't I ever just sit back and enjoy what I wanted to experience?" Worked for me. Bad trips are just BS after a while. You need to try and accept the negative feelings, as they say, psychologically speaking, it's only your insides showing, or, your thought "forms" coming to life. Accept them, welcome them. Make something useful of your trip. When you can turn a bad trip into a good trip you practically walk out of the trip a whole new person.
     
  17. StonerBill

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    I dunno man I dont think bad trips are a matter of 'sitting forward'. bad aspects of trips can put us 'on the edge of our seats' but the actual things that cause the negativity are usually very confronting, at least for me. I know the situation which I can go 'hey what am i doing? i should get back to enjoying this' is if i get into a negative thought loop or some sort of worrying circle.
    but other times the negative thing is a theme of negativity that impregnates the senses and thus puts in front of me something negative. Then its not a matter of sitting back but instead knowing that the negative aspect is part of the trip and not part of the accepted reality, and thus moving yourself away can help. But othertimes the negative thing might in all reasonability be a real negative thing and on the trip it can blow up to a catastrophically negative thing and depending on the amount that you can deduce about where you are and who you are with.. sometimes you cant just sit back and not worry.. because honestly we worry for a reason sometimes.. its just barely ever the case.
     
  18. Tanman35

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    while tripping i have found myself feeling on the fence between a good and bad trip but what helps me is just remember i took something thats making my head do this whether it be good bad or indifferent my normal outlook is not there so relax and have the best time you can...after that i usually calm down and im right back into loving my trip
     
  19. BornFree

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    i agree! haha your sig looks like cev's nice.
     

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