Native Spirituality Crisis.

Ok. Finally im back, and i have a question here.

I am of Creek descent. The crowd at Indianz.com treats me like i should be thrown into a gasifier for this, as according to them, i am nothing but a filthy white product of war crimes and have no place in their world or spirituality.

I dont want to be the racist that they call me. Im trying to find the best way of tearing it all out, so that i dont offend anyone. And yet, the more i try, the more my main totem, Wolf, tries to manifest, often angrily. it isnt very pretty and is becoming worse by the minute. And yet, knowing that i am impure, i want it all torn out, by genetic engineering if need be... for the people.

It all makes me want to die. The only thing that works, temporarily, is drinking. Marijuana only puts me more in touch with the spirit world that i must avoid.

 

... What, because of your genes?! Because of your parents?!

They're just being purist and elitist and missing the point that you're a human being just like any other. In other words they're being stupid and judgemental. Their judgement is their separation, their pride.. Just forgive their misunderstanding and move on.

 

Thunderdreamers.com great site as long as you are respectful. It's sharing ideas on native spirituality and much more. Everyone is accepted from white to fullblood and everything in between.

 

Recent advancements in genetics have proven we are all physically-genetically related. That physically-genetically, all, of man kind is one large family of relatives. Some more closely relate than others, but, all related.
There are NO - PURE blooded groups, or individuals. Except for pure human.
Those who reject others for not being as genetically, and by extension, spiritually, or intellectually, pure, or superior as they are, remind me of a guy named Adolph!
Also, all of our spirits-souls are made in the image of God, which is Pure Universal Love and life force energy. And so, we are all spiritually-soulfully alike - in the same way all snowflakes are alike - yet at the same time, totally individual, as are each snowflake.
There is nothing wrong with you!
They are the ones limiting and confining their own spirits with selective and conditional acceptance -- instead of Universal love! A choice, also know as -- hatred.
They, in doing so, actually cut themselves off from whatever spiritually they claim as their own, and seek to deprive you of.
These are people to walk away from, and leave behind in the dust of life's trail.
They are hung up on their self exalting concepts of self identity and self image, and are giving this priority over all other concerns -- like the spiritual truth.
Don't join them in this!
Let them confine and make their own spirits as small as their own minds, as that is what they seem to seek.
Disconnect from them and their thinking, and Let them fall by the wayside in their anger and bigotry. Allow your spirit to accept, for give, expand, and to grow in the freedom of love and wisdom.
I know what I'm talking about.
My mind and spirit were once small, scared and angry too.
I've walked the path of limited, conditional, exclusive, acceptance, and hatred myself. Only over different ethnic issues. To the point, where I was actually confronted with knives and guns over it.
It is a path long behind me in the dust - where it belongs.
Put these people, and your desire to belong to them, behind you as well.
Or, join them in their anger, fear, and dreams of exclusive pure blooded and spiritual superiority -- and see how happy it makes you.

By the tone of your post, it doesn't seem to be filling you with much joy so far.

You know -- Fuck Them!
Or -- eat shit with them!
Your choice!

 

Well said, mojave.

I was going to tackle the genetics issue but you said it better than i could have.

 

Well, i will tell you this: i started getting better when i figured out that my physical heritage was only as it was so that i could be here. Make sense? Recipe for one Lutz, thus..... is apparently everything from St Petersburg, FL to St. Petersburg, RUS.

But anyhow, they got me for quite a while, making me feel quite lousy. I never wanted to be a racist of any kind, yet they implied that i was the racist and that they were only trying to hold on to what they had left. Its really bad when youre told to go back to Europe, and that youre nothing but a walking testament to war crimes.

As for my method, this has been up in the air for a year. Originally, i was my usual pain in the ass Eldari Farseer, yet i let a friend convince me that i needed to adopt a human method. Thats where all the confusion and conflict set in... piled on top of lies i was told by my father about my family's medical history. I became convinced that i was going to die any day now of an MI. Imagine living in that sort of fear for a year. It was like the perfect storm of shitski.

Needless to say, we are no longer friends, which in and of itself is really tragic. I tried talking about these issues to him but he blew up in irrational anger every time. I keep blaming myself for that. I think that if only i were a better person, i would still be friends with him, his family, and everyone connected to him. Hes gone around convincing everyone he knows that im this evil maniac who needs to be in an institution, and everyone so far has believed him. Now i have little left.

The kick in the balls: His family is Cherokee...

 

"Sieg Heil! Kemosabe" -

I nearly blasted soda all over my laptop, Mojave Green. Thanks. That was hilarious.

 

I've stated it before, I'll state it again, bud. I've met your dad. He's a useless flabby hunk of whale speutum. You could get more of substance conversing with my cat...and I mean the idiot one that licks electrical sockets.

 

BTW, listen to LL, Mojave and Windy. They are very awesome people that've seen a lot of crap, and know what's 'really' up.

 

Glad that I could bring a laugh to you about such heavy stuff. But, if you think about it in the right way, it is a total joke. Indians behaving like the Klan?! Who needs 'em?!

I guess my spelling is a pretty good joke too.

 

Thanks LL.
This issue is one of my hot button ones. Kinda put me up there on my soap box.

 

I would keep your chin up. I have been down that road as well being part Iroquois.

Blood quantum has always been a big issue, but as this country ages that even that is thinned. Most of the population in this country has a certain amount of Native American in their blood.

Along my path I have learned that it is not the quantity that matters but the quality. It is how you live your life not the acceptance of how it is that you live your life.

There is bitterness and entitlement attitudes amongst the younger generation of Native American people. What happened happened, they are a conquered people, as are so many around this globe. It is not your fault it is not my fault. It is no-ones. Civilizations rise and fall.

You will find many just as many folks out there that are "breed" friendly and will permit ceremony and such for us, but the best advice I can give is to keep your chin up and you will know the truth when you find it. It will speak to you.

 

Back when I was a lad of me late 20's we not so jokingly called it being on the wings of the seeker. Knowing that at times those winds are cold and it takes all your strength to just hold on. Most of those of us that went on seeking, found much of what we were seeking. We found ways of Being. It did not shout look at me I am walking in the Way of my truth, for the Way was one of Doing not talking. Sometimes one breath after the next was a long time as we went Beyond. Many understand that we walk Beyond. The Search acquaints us with the various needs of attention, concentration, and one-pointed-ness. In learning to still the mind - things happen - realms increase - actions are often the result of attention and focus the concentration and creative energy into Doing.

Most wandering Waysharers recognize each other - it is there in the energy, in attuning to the spirit of another the signs are obvious. There is a resonance - a blended harmonic - an undercurrent of otherliness about them. They are almost more attuned to a different place, where things take on a greater depth. Sometimes you can even see where you are being directed even as you are at one with the Being directing. And it's not all about the every day mundane but yet can take on the appearances of such while much more is happening than merely interactions with the everyday humdrum of existence. There is a heightened awareness, a greater consciousness, even as a sleeping man wakens to the work of the day.

A Waysharer by way of definition must share and help others to come unto their own -t'is also aiding in our own growth to test the Ways we've come and gather a wider perspective of what Is. It all becomes a harmonious spiral with occurrences cycling with a little different take in our participation in the transcendence from macro to micro, to intro to existence, to being awareness...The cycle of Being feeding the Awareness, continues from beginnings of Awareness that I Am and We Are One

Doing the Work, a phrase that I've come to love - and the Work - growing Awareness, cultivating attention, expanding consciousness, fulfilling potential, harmonious interaction with the Whole with the given that movement in consciousness travels throughout the Whole; from the One to the All and on to the Whole....... Being that Being that shines forth. We are manifesting Existence. ... The Opening, the blossoming forth ; the change to the butterfly. Collecting experiences and creating quilts of changes as we transform and transcend through Awareness, becoming conscious that we are the creator as well as the recipient of experiences that have the potential to take us wherever we allow ourselves to go.
And then there's detachment, not getting too caught up in the results but continuing on. The way I enjoy saying it most is - "don't get blown away by the phenomenology". The Work becomes an end to itself as we increase our ability to understand and perceive a greater part of the Whole as we grow in our Awareness and perceptions as we transcend from the self coming fresh into Awareness with the All maintaining creating a growing consciousness.
"Be still and Know I Am" echoes with "To thine own Self be true" and we catch glimpses of ourselves at different junctures in this journey through existence. We share joy as another breaks through to greater understandings, sharing their perceptions of the Whole...... Becoming more than....... going beyond the beyond...

When individuals walk through their life change and decide who they are - what they are about; take on their life path. Many people walked through the time of change seeking. Seeking within - through drugs, and yet wanting more control. Meditation led one to experiencing a reality much greater than family or society programs allow for. We come to greater insight. Usually the sense of intuition receives more attention and becomes accepted as a functioning part to the whole ...-- but the whole nebulizes into much more then the sum of its parts and an overself often broken into 2 called the higher self, and the god/self where life times are lived to learn lessons for expanding awareness and becoming more consciousness of transcending -> moving beyond the boundaries previously accepted.... And guess what - someone's already been there before you leaving telltale signs that you are not alone. Others have recognized that the boundaries are beyond what was previously accepted. Some walk in the chaos of creations able to pierce the veil of illusions and See beyond. Mystics talk of landscapes of similarity within shining landscape; ways of anchoring and traveling into the beyond. And we can all hear the echoes of the seekers before us helping us find our Way through maya
Any clearer ? remember how it was kinda sorta when mysteries were unfolding before our awestruck eyes as we found out that we create ourselves - and we found ways to deal with it - knowing that there would have to be a time of coming to a better understanding ..>to find through time that knowing betters understanding ... As we walk beyond, different things are understood... differently.


feed your Self...empower your Self...and this self is not our ally the ego whose function is to maintain separation so that we may have individual experiences but that One which Is Connected from the One to the All making us Whole

we all Grow On...and by our choices choose that which our focus gathers to...choose wisely.

Peace, Blessings,
Love

Namaste

 

There is no such thing as spiritually impure. That's probably the 'apple' lol. Snake came in and bit you good did he? Everyone has direct contact to the divine. nothing less. you go the way you are called to go. that is it and perhaps you may need to connect on a personal level with someone in that culture - maybe that's an issue don't know. but...

Be true to your heart. wolf there is part of you . what you going to cut off your arm next? heh. I haven't read what other's have written yet, but I suspect some may have similar advice.

You want to contact the spirit world in a pure way - get a drum. Hoop is best, any other will do. Take some time off drugs (sugar, caffeine, nicotine alcohol, holy herb, etc.). Then, perhaps fast for a day. Then Drum your hearbeat. Match it, blend with it be it. Relax into being at one, in motion, til there is no motion. Visualize in your mind the outdoor terrain you find familiar. I bet your wolf is either there or already coming. if the way wasn't right for you it wouldn't open.

simple as that.

The wolf may take you around the territory, get you used to your own personal spiritual landscape. The wolf may lead you to a hole or cave. If so, this may be an entrance to the lower realms your guide is inviting you to take. Mostly it is best to do so.

namaste,
moonchilde

 

Moonchilde...I know your last post wasn't intended for me, but I copied the last few paragraphs out and posted them for myself. From "you want to contact the spirit world" and onward...I made a hoop drum a few years back and used it alot...did some healing with it, prayed with it...I've drifted way off course lately...thank-you for being that little beacon of light

 

Ah, excellent. part of the beauty of creating in a public space are such unintended consequences. i have more people to thank in that respect I'm very glad that you found it helpful

Did you bend the hoop yourself for your drum? I ask because I have made a few hoop drums. I bought the hoops (cedar) and hide (elk), though. I suppose I could have gone elk hunting but that was just a bit out of my reach, as were the challenges of bending the wood.

Just so there is a balance, I thought I should also give some idea to the other main direction in a similar vein:

So..., you want to reach the upper realms? Get a metronome or good source of beats. You need to feel and know what ~200 beats per minute are like. Practice drumming with this source, using the high tone of your hoop/other drum (if you don't already know, most drums have a range of tones available if you experiment). Concentrate very hard on feeling the rhythm match, relax into the movement and flow. Practice going from the heartbeat rhythm to this rhythm. Lose the metronome, except for spot checks. Over +5 minutes it can be very easy to slow down unconsciously. Veeeery easy....

Prepare. Start the heartbeat rhythm. Mesh with your heartbeat and use the rhythm to regulate it a bit lower, getting your body relaxed. Ground. Open to the spirit realm. Connect and be there. Ask your guide to help you. If they are not there just relax in the heartbeat this session and explore yourself. Maybe you're meant to do something else now.

Otherwise, without losing the mental and physical heartbeat switch the rhythm to the 200 bpm, I prefer gradually. Concentrate on the rhythm. Entrance yourself. Ask your spirit guide to help you find the way. There should appear a door, staircase, path up a mountain, up wards portal of some kind or you might have to overcome some barrier or again something else might happen, you know? Again, if shown some type of portal it is generally best to go forth.

cheers,
moonchilde

 

This is a tough subject. I am 1/4 Cherokee and 1/4 philipino. Several years ago, My wife got really spiritual, and i was floundering.I was an active alcoholic, and that was dragging Me down. I had no life path. I talked to my sister about this, she is a very good psychic surgeon, and she helped Me through it. I got the same advice i heard here. I started reading native spiritual books and meditating. That has made a great difference.just keep fighting the good fight, and dont listen to negative people. Tony

 

A friend bent the hoop for me. He guided me through the whole drum making process. He purchased the hide (deer) from a nearby Native Reservation. He was a good teacher. Had a little ceremony before hand and blessed everything with Sage. I can't thank you enough for all this additional info. LOL today was my first day without sugar and caffeine. It actually went OK, but I am prepared this time for the "caffeine headache" about 3-4 days after coming off of it...Cheers Moonchilde

 

Caffeine is the drug of the gods...

 

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