OK i havent tried salvia yet and ive never tripped. I really want to buy some salvia and ive read a lot about it, but it never specifically says how many hits to take when u smoke it, so question one is, how many hits do u take to trip on salvia and whats the method, is it like smoking weed? Also, what does the "X" mean in 5x and 20x extracts. And what is the extract, a liquid? And how many drops do u take (if its a liquid) to get like a moderate trip. MANY THANKS IN ADVANCE TO ALL WHO ANSWER thanx Matt
www.entheogen.com www.erowid.org www.spiritplants.com www.lycaeum.org & many many more, including some sites that are just about salvia divinorum "x" = "times as strong" most folks say to smoke it in a bong or a hookah, & to keep the flame on the cone of herb for the whole toke... & try to hold you breath for at least 15-20 seconds... & if you think you need it, take another hit or two until you're "there" (or until you're not there & ready to give to trying (for now)... yaddayaddayadda...
Okay, here's the deal. If you have the pure leaves, you have to smoke about 6 or 8 leaves. If you have the 5x extract, a powerful dose is a decently-sized bowl. If you have 10x extract, less than half of a bowl is a strong dose. Don't get anything higher. =P Unfortunately, everything has to be smoked within a period of about 2 minutes; otherwise, peak effects don't come on; only the experience is lengthened. This is hard to do with the leaves, as that's usually about 4 bowls, and it's mighty hard to smoke 4 bowls in only 2 minutes. That is why extracts are preferred; 5x is very common. So is 6x, and 10x is not far off. You can also find 20x and pure salvinorin-A extract. Anyway ... as for smoking techniques. If you take out any old weed pipe and try to smoke the salvia, it's not going to work well; ESPECIALLY if using leaves. See, the active ingrediant, salvinorin-A, has a high vaporization temperature, which means you have to burn the leaves hard the entire time you are inhaling. Because salvia smoke is VERY hot when it reaches your throat, and the smoke is very harsh (most in the beginning), a large hit of weed is easier to hold in than a small hit of salvia. For this reason, the heat can be eliminated by using a bong or water pipe. And, torch lighters are also recommended, especially if using leaves, as they can vaporize all the salvinorin-A in one hit. And don't worry, the smoke is good-tasting and good-smelling, so you won't get nauseous at all, it's actually quite pleasant when taking a hit out of a bong (and you can get massive hits that way; allowing the whole bowl to be smoked in just a few seconds). You're also supposed to hold in a hit for 20 to 30 seconds; as long as you can, because salvinorin-A doesn't absorb into the lungs very fast.
Hikaru's definitely right about having to take it all within a short amount of time. A lot of people, even when my friends and I tell them about it, will want to take a little bowl and then take a little bowl in 5 mins or whatnot, but it doesn't EVER work out. I also agree that it's not a great idea to use "any old weed pipe", however it can work very well depending on how you're doing it. A bong is definitely preferable. The smoke to me is very harsh and tastes unpleasant. If I cough at all when exhaling, it feels very uncomfortable. Anyhow, good luck with your endeavors. The extract is actually in the form of leaves. What they do is for 5x, they'll take 50 salvia leaves and extract them to 10 leaves. For 10x it would be 100 leaves extracted onto 10 leaves. So on and so fourth. I prefer to have some normal leaves and put some extract on top of it, but to each his own.
I actually would prefer to have some salvia incense. Not the "incense" that is pure salvinorin-A. But rather the incense that you burn, that comes in sticks, and smells nice. =)
definitely use a bong. A few nights ago I was using a pipe...I had started to inhale the smoke and my throat locked up; most of the smoke was still in my mouth and in the pipe tube...and there was nothing I could do to get it in my lungs! My eyes were watering like hell, my throat hurt like never before, it just sucked. I got no effect that night and gave up in disgust, and in pain. What a waste of leaves. But the next night I used a bong, and that worked far better. Still a mildish experience, because I didn't smoke enough. This is why I need an enhanced batch...but the bong cooled the smoke to a point I could handle and was actually rather pleasant I'm a new big fan of bongs.
