plagiarism?

Discussion in 'Writers Forum' started by dabla, Jul 30, 2008.

  1. dabla

    dabla Member

    Messages:
    197
    Likes Received:
    10
    Do any of you fear that you are being influenced by something you might have read or heard someplace else? I'm always worrying about this.
     
  2. dirtydog

    dirtydog Banned

    Messages:
    1,892
    Likes Received:
    5
    I'm not afraid of being influenced by others. Otherwise, I'd still be howling for a diaper change and trying to learn how to walk for the first time.
     
  3. dabla

    dabla Member

    Messages:
    197
    Likes Received:
    10
    I don't think I follow you:confused:
     
  4. redyelruc

    redyelruc The Yard Man

    Messages:
    9,246
    Likes Received:
    3
    Nope, never.

    In fact, every book I read, every song I listen to, every piece of artwork I've ever studied, has absolutely no effect on me whatsoever.:rolleyes:
     
  5. Blkrubbersoul

    Blkrubbersoul Member

    Messages:
    123
    Likes Received:
    0
    I don't think being influenced is so bad. It's not bad necessarily, to be influenced by someone's work, so it's really nothing to be worrying about. But I think what the truly great writers, artist, and so on do is take that influence and make it something unique. So I think at first people are always going to be producing things that have been influenced, but they usually always progress onto something of there own. If any of that makes sense.
     
  6. Bonsai Ent

    Bonsai Ent Member

    Messages:
    402
    Likes Received:
    2
    lol I don't worry about being influenced, but I do hold a sort of weird irrational neurosis about accidentally plagiarising someone.

    as a result I spend a lot more time than I probably should checking and re-reading my work.
     
  7. geckopelli

    geckopelli Senior Member

    Messages:
    2,862
    Likes Received:
    2
    "Accidently plagarising someone" ?????

    That's an oxymoron.
     
  8. Chainz

    Chainz Member

    Messages:
    39
    Likes Received:
    2
    There are only so many musical notes. And statistically, at some point, every possible combination will have been written. And so it is with the human written word. And it already stands to reason that certain short phrases will be copied and re-written without thought to their origin. Phrases like, "when it is all said and done" are already substantially incorporated in everyday speech. Or compositions like "the only thing we have to fear is fear itself", are a matter of our fabric and mental record. One can't be blamed for writing what it is in their own mind, no matter who put it there. But that doesn't excuse long compositions written "word for word" (another familiar phrase) that are written by another and is a matter of copyright infringement. You can not accidently plagiarize anothers work, in my opinion. Such things require a conscious effort. Repeating anothers words in short, however, is not unknown and perfectly acceptable, and implies no criminal intent to deprive another of their work, (or claim credit for anothers work).
     
  9. Dave_techie

    Dave_techie I call Sheniangans

    Messages:
    14,932
    Likes Received:
    3
    if you are afraid of being influenced, you are afraid of living.
     
  10. dirtydog

    dirtydog Banned

    Messages:
    1,892
    Likes Received:
    5
    Either you're joking (most likely), or you're bullshitting us, or you're bullshitting yourself. We all receive stimuli from our environment (including books, songs, and art), and we all respond to those stimuli we consider important. There may be an odd catatonic exception, but you're not one.

    And since I've read a few of your postings by now and found them quite intelligent in most cases, Redyelruc, I don't believe you find books, art and songs unimportant.
     
  11. Bonsai Ent

    Bonsai Ent Member

    Messages:
    402
    Likes Received:
    2
    I suppose that rests firstly on one's definition of plagiarism, and secondly on ones definition of oxymoron :p

    To my knowledge, an oxymoron is only apparently contradictory, but not contradictory in fact. Such "cruel to be kind"

    Actually, there have been known cases of accidental plagiarism. A women with a photographic memory had a book pulled of the shelves for it.

    I suppose you could question her honesty, and say she did it on purpose, but it's not impossible.

    But like I said, its an irrational neurosis of mine, not a sensible one. I try to ignore it as much as possible
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice