I am a curious 16 year old who is thinking about trying salvia for the first time. This would not be my first drug experience, as I have experimented with marijuana plenty of times. I have done a lot of research on the plant and have read many articles about first time experiences on erowid.com. However, on a majority of these experience stories the writer has talked about feeling like the world was going to end, or like he/she was going to die, there was even an article about a girl who felt like a giant spider was about to burst out of her mouth (this article http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=32490). My question to you experienced salvia users is this... is it really worth it? I mean personally I don't believe I would find the sense of isolation and helplessness enjoyable. I know salvia isnt generally used as a recreational drug, and I am by NO MEANS trying to use it in this purpose. I really just want to do it for the experience and to possibly expand my horizons of consciousness. Any feedback would be appreciated. P.S. If I try it, I am planning on using 15x extract and my dry glass piece.
Here is a theory I have come up with based on all of the things I have read about salvia trips. The obstacles in the trip (the giant spider in the person's mouth, the sense of feeling trapped in an apocalypse, the whole concept of death, etc) could just essentially be metaphors for actual problems that those specific people have in their lives, and these problems manifest into reality while you are tripping. You thus, have to conquer your fear or supposed inability to do something in your trip and therefore expand your consciousness. This is just a little theory I came up and I thought it would be cool if it was true. But then again, I have never even tried salvia once and have no idea what I am talking about .
In my opinion it is DEFINITELY worth it. Read the main part (Attempt 2) in my thread where I wrote about my first trip here>>> http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=321262&f=124 I just tried salvia for my first time last Monday and it was absolutely worth it.
Thanks for the feedback man, I appreciate it, and your story has definitely pushed me in the direction of trying it.
Also, if you realize you are tripping on salvia (which many times you completely forget you're on it) DON'T fight the trip, it may make it bad. If you go with it everything should be okay.
ok, will i completely lose perception of my surroundings? Like if I plan on staying in my room the whole time (and I have a sitter to make sure i dont leave the room) will the sitter interfere with my trip if i try to leave and would that be considered "fighting" the trip?
I my expirience poeple dont seam to move around much, but yes they will sometimes. And for a couple minites you will loose touch with reality, and wont know who you are, or what your doing. One time i started tripping while standing up, and my sitter grabbed me and threw me on the couch, which was a good move on his part. I just laid on the couch, laughing histerically, and drolling on myself. And i quess i was flalling my body back and forth. It was like i knew what i was doing, but i had no controle over it. I never seam to hallucinate, mostly just my mind goes blank, and i dont know what im doing, and i laugh and do wierd shit lol Definatly try it, but dont be to worried going into it. Just relax and enjoy it, and if you are tripping and dont like it, the good thing is it will be over in a couple minites
you wont really have a bad trip in the same context as other psychedelics. the only things that make a salvia trip bad are paranoia and discomfort. its not exactly a "fun" drug, but it is definetely worth trying at least once, as it gives a glimpse of what psychedelics are capable of. compared to salvia, weed has almost no effects. Ive tried salvia approximately 8 times, and it usually takes me several days to mentally prepare for what im about to experience. not intensity-wise, but rather the altered perceptions and feelings of "needing" to do something during the trip (walking can be awkward, and i commonly feel the urge to put my stash away while peaking-very difficult/hazardous)
i love salvia! it always gives me a MASSIVE case of the giggles! once i start i cant stop for like half and hour. i think its worth it if u get strong enough shit. and dont smoke it out of a bong.
A bad trip isn't necessarily bad. You gain deep insight, a new sense of strength after overcoming the pain, a new respect for the drug/herb... if you go in with a good knowledge of the herb, you will come out ok
I smoked mine out of a bong and FLEW. I have to say that I think it is too much of a mind fuck for young ones though.
Mind Fuck is exactly the works i was thinking of. It just fucks up your mind teporarily. Its like it destroys everything you have ever known...while your tripping i mean:cheers2:
What do you mean deep insight? I mean most of the things i've read that people see (while they are tripping) is like crazy shit happening, not really realistic problems you would have in life. Like being attacked by lego men or giant spiders or talking plants. How would anything like that give you deep insight?
Most people don't have bad trips buddy, but it all depends on your mood going into it. If you think "damn I'm really worried I'm going to have a bad trip" you very well might. If you go into it thinking "this is going to be the shit" you will have an amazing time. Honestly, I was a bit nervous but I said to myself "this is going to be the best" and my friend said "Yeah, you're going to have so much fun man," and then I didn't wait a moment more before hitting the bong. If you hit it with someone encouraging it like that, even if you don't entirely believe it, it definitely helps you. It tricks you into thinking it will be great, and it turns out being great. Do it already. Don't think about it too much.
Good advice, i remember one trip i had i kinda like sat there and meditated with a couple friends before hitting the pipe. It wasnt like meditation but just relax and clear your mind, and know its going to be enjoyable.
All that crazy imagery might not seem important to the person reading the trip report, but you can bet that the person experiencing it is having all kinds of associations going on as well. What you see isn't all you get out of it, it's not just your eyes that are involved.
my freinds and i did it a couple months back i dont remember it too well, i was on alot of xanax but my boy said therre was an apple factory and i snorted up a million apples at once loll