OK, This was the conversation taken from another thread that was being hijacked from its original topic. I would like to open a thread about language usage and here is the background so far: Now, as a wordweaver who really enjoys the nuance and force of words, I understand their impact. However, I come from the late George Carlin school of not censoring words - even "bad" words. I hate euphemisms and often challenge writers and editors who euphemise the language. I particularly hate using initials or dashes/dots to indicate a word that if you understand what the initial is, then you know the original word. WHAT KIND OF F...ING GAME IS THAT. (Of course the obfuscated word that I intended was "FOOLING." Oh, you thought I would actually say FUCK in polite company?) So to me "N-word" represents a Non-word. Not only is it a useless lie to use initials it is ambiguous as indicated in the FOOLING/FUCKING example above. I get a nudist magazine that used to have a feature called "N-Word Spoken Here." No, they weren't being racist, just Nudists. As for the other N-word, I particularly hate when writers, such as in the Miami Herald do all sorts of convolutions to avoid using the word "******" even when it is in a direct quote such as John Lennon song "Woman is the ****** of the world." Yes, Leonard Pitts (or an editor) of the Miami Herald actually changed that in an article to "Woman is the N-word of the world.) Now I can see that ****** as an offensive slang is distasteful to many black ppl, (while at the same time being owned by black ppl themselves such as the group NWA). However, sometimes it is best to convey the honest emotion in writing and use the actual vernacular that some racist will use to get the full impact of the hatred. That is what writing is about, to convey an accurate feeling. Which brings us to ****, or what some in the other thread referred to as the C-word. It is offensive slang for the more Latin derived cunus, (root word for cunnilingus). I see the offensiveness of it if you refer to a woman as a ****. (I would never ). But to refer to a woman's **** in a bawdy conversation doesn't seem too offensive to me. But again I'm not a **** so maybe I wouldn't be too sensitive to the word. OK, let's carry on the conversation of why it is acceptable to call a woman's vulva a pussy but not a ****. Some women here have expressed a fondness for the word being used while their man is pounding their ****. Others want to relegate it to the bad word codification of C-word. Opinions?
hmm... well i dont really find it offensive. But i dont like it either. I do use the word ****, but when im referring to a person. Like "youre a **** face," but of course just not really referring to pussy. if someone was referring to it and called it a **** i would be like wtf. so the word in general is like.. a cuss word for me. but i would not use to refer to a vagina.
if one finds it offensive, then don't use it, and don't judge. if one doesn't find it offensive, be respectful of others peeves. simple as that. this system works for all things, not just for the use of the word ****.
I don't like it but it's no worse then any other insult. Women are a little too touchy on that word IMHO
yep, Willy's on it.. agreed. it is extremely rare that I use the word '****' because of all the negative connotations it carries to me. pussy's fine though. maybe the reason 'cock' is acceptable and '****' isn't is because 'cock' has more than one meaning?
I find that the genuine words have a form of beauty all of their own, whereas other common vulgarities simply make them sound ugly. There is no shortage of descriptive terms available for use in the English language, so why not use them, rather than making ones up which sound offensive, even when describing something so beautiful.
I, for one, use the word **** all the time. (Well, not all the time) I just like the way it sounds better than pussy. I don't know why, it's just my personal preference. Plus, I like the fact that **** matches the other c-word, cock. I don't see any point in censoring words either, I mean, it's not like **** means anything different than pussy. It's just depends on how you use it.
i agree... however. i don't like it at all... pussy is sexy i like it. but if i was going to call someone a name i'd never think **** right at first. you'd have to get me REALLY angry to use that word
knew that was coming ok i found one **** a offensive word meaning a women that is considered trash or a sexual object
I LOVE the word '****'... It's my favorite insult right now.. It just has a perfect ring to it, i guess.. I wouldn't be insulted if anyone referred to my cooch as a ****.. it's just a word.. and seriously, with as many words as there are to call the vagina - why should THIS one hurt my feelings? Why is **** such a big offensive deal?! I think 'fish taco' is far more offensive. lmao. Want to see more terms you can use, in reference to your **** (or the **** of your gf/wife/partner)?! http://www.vaginalady.com/words/words.htm
I think a lot of times the word **** is used like the word bitch. But if it's being used to describe the vagina, it wouldn't bother me. Pussy can be used rudely too, aka wimp, but I think wimp is less offensive that bitch and either way when used to describe a vagina it doesn't mean any of those things at all. Twat even has been used as an insult. But no one's ever gotten mad at a guy and screamed 'you cock!' lol. I personally like the word cock. I think the only word for penis that's ever been used as an insult, as far as I'm aware, is dick. I like that one too, but cock is just such a nice sounding, sexy word.
I know as soon as you typed that you saw that ppl get mad at guys and scream "You cocksucker!" Which I find insulting - even though I am.
My girlfriend and I always joke around and call each other names and whatnot. One day she called me a cum stain so I called her a withered old just **** and she FLIPPED OUT. The conversation went something like this. *SLAP* gf: WTF DON'T CALL ME "THAT WORD" me: Ouch, wtf, I was joking relax gf: No that's fucked up fuck you how dare you call me that me: wtf, we joke like that all the time you know I don't mean it gf: you shouldn't call anybody that name especially me >:-O *No sex for a week* Can somebody explain this to me, what makes that word so much worse?!?!
**** or pussy? I use both words when addressing my customers on the phone. JOKE! BTW Girls dont tend to like the word **** one bit. To the Normans it meant an "anglo saxon" woman's.Shock horror...
Simple: Guys are from Mars - Girls are from Venus. How we both ended up here together on Earth is the mystery. If GF doesn't learn how to appreciate her guy, you always have the option to be gay.
