Bush Coverup of WORSE Iraq Prison Atrocities!

There's a big difference between puttng a mask over a prisoners' faces and piling them up, and sodomizing children. BIG difference.

 

Saying those tapes don't exsist is like saying Bin Laden did not admit responsibility for 9/11. One would have to question what would constitute as REAL evidence if tapes, investigations, hearings, etc are not sufficient enough.

 

Yeah, interogation can be nasty sometimes....

 

It's just a game. Nobody's heard of the $100,000 Naked Iraqi Pyramid???

 

Jeez, I guess you squares have never heard of the.................MANTRAIN!!!

 

There was an article printed here in Britain - don't know if it made the US papers - that says that the IRA guys who were arrested by the British army got pretty much the same treatment: torture light with humiliating trophy photos.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Northern_Ireland/Story/0,2763,1232058,00.html

The only difference being that somebody leaked the Iraq photos and the story got out because there was proof, and the world cared.

Perhaps the worst part of this is not that it was an unusual abomination, but that it is what happens behind the closed walls of prisons as standard procedure.

 

I guess people only go wild when America is the one to be blamed.

 

The point is pretty much boiling down to "Theres no proof" and well your right. For now at least. But think about it. How long has information been held back from the public by the big guy? Shit we still don't know all the details behind Kennedy, so do you think its really that hard for them to withhold a few tapes. Remember how Nixon tap danced around his missing audio tapes? How LIGHT he got off for it (Sorry if I seem to be straying Skip, I'm trying to bring it to a central point.) Information, be it audio, video, or text can be hidden or destroyed and people held acountable will be tied up in the system until it goes away (that make sense?) If/When the tapes are released the first thing that people will jump on will be its authenticity. It will be deemed fake or something along that line. It happened when those images of British abuse scandels happened as well as when good ole US of A had its. As for the morale issue of these tapes... Good. Our soldiers should be getting PISSED OFF about the abuse and the torture and the possible rape of young boys. But no. I'm seeing people say that its not good for them to see images of their own doing that. We're supposed to be about something better. Something like... justice? Thats why we invaded in the first place right? If these crimes are being commited then we need to prosocute the offenders. PERIOD

 

I agree with pretty much everything that has been said.

 

If we resort to these tactics how are we any better than Sadaam was? What higher standards are we fighting for? I was apalled by Sarah Palin's comment at the Republican Convention laughing about withholding anyone's rights under any circumstances is a big red flag for me. They lost my respect totally that moment.

Had John McCain's human rights been totally ignored during his capture he would not be alive today. He received medical care, as an admiral's son he received more respect than he was due.

 

BTW, anyone insulting our members again with the line:"shut the hell up or move to another country" or something similar will be automatically banned as a troll. Got it?

I have to admit, though... if the Democrats pick up a lot of seats in November AND the presidency, I will have to seriously consider getting an "America Love it or Leave it" sticker for my car