weed in combination with vicodin is quite enjoyable. actually, it is beyond enjoyable. it should be mandatory law for every human on the planet earth to try this combo at least once in their life. how much?.... well, if you have to ask that question, then that means you probably have never taken vicodin (hydrocodone) before. if you have taken it before, then you should know what dosage of hydrocodone gets you high and i recommend taking your common dose of it. if you have indeed never taken vicodin before, i would recommend taking 5-10mg, maybe 15mg if you are feeling froggy, but that could end up being a bad decision, as you might get nauseated and have a bad experience from the extra 5mg. 5-10mg should be perfect if you haven't taken it before. on another note, if you haven't combined weed and vicodin before, i would recommend trying the vicodin first without the weed. Some people get paranoid from marijuana.... and the paranoia mixed with the hydro buzz might make you feel bad or freak out, as well. As far as how much weed for the combo.... i don't think that even matters. from what i can recall in my 13+ years of being a total stoner, you can't over dose on weed now, the hydrocodone... that's a different story all together. you can easily OD on hydro and/or APAP (both chemicals are mixed in vicodin) if you're not careful. so, take precaution... and as with any combo of drugs, it's best to know how both chemicals affect your body separately before you dive into a drug mixture. have fun and be safe. let us know how it goes for you... :cheers2:
Great post. Basically everything I would have covered. Although his post is more informative, because I can't stand marijuana personally, so I can't comment too much in regards to that. Also, very good advice on the bolded parts. As far as how much to smoke...if you smoke normally you should know your tolerance to weed, so you shouldn't stress over that part too much. Best thing to do is take the Hydro, let it kick in, then when you feel the hydro and are okay with the effects, take a hit of weed at a time. Or if you are a hardcore stoner, one bowl at a time. Don't wanna overdo it and overkill it and ruin the pleasant opiate buzz.
Yeah, I get that response every time I tell someone that. Is it that rare for someone who likes drugs to NOT like marijuana? I didn't think it was that uncommon. I have smoked probably over 100 times. Every kind of method you can think of, including ingesting it. Tried plenty of different types of weed. Not one single time have I had an enjoyable time. I get EXTREMELY high off of ONE hit of the weakest dirt weed you can find. I literally can't walk I get so high off one hit. I get paranoid, I feel like I can't breathe, I feel like I can't swallow...I can't make complete sentences. I have had bad acip trips that were easier to handle then the bad feelings I have gotten from weed on some occasions. I have no idea why, but it just isn't for me.
oh, ok i see. its not for everyone and you just react differently than others, which is cool. i thought you meant you dont enjoy the high lol.
Well, I don't, haha. I have felt "high." I laughed my ass off, got hungry, and went to sleep. It's not fun to me.
lol are you crazy! nah jk, but it is pretty uncommon from my experience.. it seems like marijuana is the base drug that everyone enjoys, then different people just build off of it by using different drugs that they enjoy. it seems to me like you experienced the first few highs which are "laughing, eating, sleeping" haha the high becomes alot clearer and meditative (if thats a word) as you build a tolerance, which any pothead will tell you is a far better experience than laughing eating and sleeping. but like you said, a few people have problems with anxiety and discomfort when using marijuana, so like i said, not for everyone.
Well, i can definitely relate to U4IA's attitude towards marijuana. I smoked for 13+ years, as i stated earlier in this same post, but NO i do not smoke anymore. and yes, there is a reason for that. when i first started smoking, i knew i was in love. and i was. i smoked everyday. sometimes all day. i mean, i smoked a blunt every single night before i went to sleep, outed it at exactly half, put it on the table next to my bed, went to sleep, woke up first thing the next morning and before my eyes were even open good, the other half of that blunt was in my mouth and lit. this happened everyday for countless years. i was a motherfucking weed-head. and it made me happy. every single day. then all of the sudden, in like january of this year, i started feeling weird as fuck when i got high. like i was doing something morbidly wrong or like someone was watching me or some shit. i just felt fucking weird and generally not good. and it really started wigging me out. so, i told some friends and most of them thought i was fucking crazy but a few of them said that it happens to them too. so i tried to play it off and figured it was just a spell of some weird green and it would pass when i got a new batch or something. so, my dude calls me, says he has some serious smokage on deck. he called it "northern lights". i was like "ok man. all that gangster "it's the fire" shit aside, it's just weed. you don't have to go through the trouble and name it and shit. just give me a bag and let me smoke the shit." he was like "dude, listen to me.... i smoked like 3 hits off of a bowl and i felt like i was trippin on lsd." i was like "ok man.... whatever.... just sell me the fucking weed so i can be on my way.'" so i got the weed, made it back to my house, and packed a bowl. now, i've done a lot of drugs in my life. plenty of lsd, mescaline, dxm, lab-grown and natural grown shrooms, DMT, i mean some seriously mind-altering psychedelics..... and this weed was pretty fucking good. but it wasn't that good. i didn't feel like i was tripping on acid. i just felt really fucking high. so, i was like ok..... another whatever. then this sudden rush of fucked up thoughts started jumping into my brain, like someone was actually fucking with my head from an unknown location. it seriously felt like someone was projecting their own perverted and grotesque images directly into my brain for their own sick amusement. i could practically hear people laughing at me in my fucking mind and ears. it honestly felt like every single one of my close friends and relatives and the people that i care about most in this world, all took a field-trip together to the "humiliation and embarrassment" section/chamber of my mind. needless to say.... i wigged the fuck out. i knew it wasn't the weed. i've smoked some serious shit before that probably put that "northern lights" to shame and nothing ever happened like that. i knew it was me and my own mind. and it finally came to me.... that weed just isn't for me anymore. it sucks entirely and i miss it oh so much. i was a complete asshole for like 3 months because i didn't know what to do with myself. i mean, for the past majority of my life, when i got bored, i got high. now.... i was just terrified to do what i loved to do so much. but i eventually overcame it and got back to reality. i now smoke every now and again. and i still get spells of paranoia and a scary episodes most of the time that i choose to do so, but i never smoke enough to let it get to me. i think weed has just generally fucked me up in the head. and i think that giving over 10 years to a drug, is more than enough. So yes, i'm with U4IA on this one. call us both crazy. i've been called a lot worse in my life. hahaha goddamn that was a long post. sorry for the LETTER i just wrote, but i felt like i needed to share.
Thanks, it was nice to read a post that I could relate to about marijuana, really refreshing. Thanks for sharing.
i would have to say, weed and hydrocodone is awesome. I dont feel much off 10 mg, and i dont neccesarily have a tolerance, so i would say 15-20 mg and a couple fat bowls would do the trick, but watch out for the APAP levels. That will kill you. Or, just do a CWE
Also...when doing a CWE, you can and do lose a considerable amount of hydrocodone, even if you do it perfect, so keep that in mind. If you only have 6 pills, and it's only going to be like 3000mg of APAP, skip the CWE, it will be fine, just don't take that much on a constant basis. It's safe to take up to 4000mg, provided one doesn't do it too much. CWE's are really best when you are working with a lot of pills, like a whole script, and if you have a high tolerance and it's going to be over 4 grams that you will be ingesting.
daaammmnnnnn dude. I know that paranoia feeling. I've been smoking since i was about 15/16 and im 18 now. And not too long ago i've been paranoid while smoking weed. At first i thought it was because i was smoking with people that i dont usually hang around that often cause i be all quiet and shit But i got paranoid as hell smoking "a half a blunt" to myself. I was on the porch by myself, smoked half a blunt, and a bit later..i mean i FREAKED THE FUCK OUT....i just went and layed in my bed. I couldn't even go to sleep i was freaking out so much. Just thinking about everything and everyone in my life......I think the paranoia is just all in your head...thats what happens when you think about shit too deeply. You just gotta learn to control and relax. But umm...recently i've been enjoying weed. Well lately i've been smoking weed while drinking alcohol. I strongly recommend that combo...its great. Because the alcohol has you loose and social, whilst the weed has you feeling calm and relaxed. You can't go wrong with weed & alcohol. I really can't even see myself smoking weed by itself anymore without alcohol. Its just too damn boring, i end feeling sleepy as hell and not wanting to talk to anyone. Just go to 7-11 and get some munchies and come home and jump on the computer or watch tv and fall the fuck asleep lol. I think weed was meant to be an anti-social drug. Thats why i like mix it with alcohol so i can have some fun. But man im sorry to hear that PatHaoOmg. That sounds crazy as fuck. Sorry for the long letter i wrote also lol.
Yeah honestly I don't think weed is that great, I really only like it to enhance the opiate high but other than that I don't enjoy it that much. I definitely feel anti-social on it unless I'm with close friends and never do it during the day as I get burnt out and can't function at work and school like I normally do, which is not the case with opiates but that is a whole different story. I guess that is why I like opiates so much, can take them whenever and go on with your daily life.
I also have to keep the weed to a minimum (for a single sitting) because paranoia pops in, and I get SUPER light headed. It also totally hits me as a psychedelic, meaning that its hard for me to just get "stoned as fuck". Instead my thoughts go crazy and I have to learn to control them and keep myself calm. When I do, then weed can be great (which is why I still smoke). However, I still vividly remember my first panic attack, and it was caused by smoking weed. Saying it just "sucked" doesn't do it justice. And, of course, it was my first time smoking Kush (Master Kush). I get a lot of the same symptoms that U4ia and everybody else described, so it really is WAY more common than people think. One of my friends didn't even believe me when I told him weed was a mild psychedelic. It's like he just feels pretty good from smoking weed, and that's it.
i'd agree that vics and weed are a heavenly combo. no comment really on weed..i just like it in this point of my life, but i couldn't really see myself doing this shit forrever so i can relate with you.