ultimate stimulant

well no two people can argue that heroin is the ultimate downer... however what is the ultimate stimulant meth or coke? i never tried meth, only coke, however alotta people tell me thats coke is a useless drug that should be extinct... meth lasts 6 hours, cocaine lasts for 30 minutes, also meth releases dopamine 3.5 times as much as coke, which means a better rush and a better high... however some coke users say that meth is a physical dirty high, n that a coke high is much euphoric and pure... i quiet find this hard to believe cuz euphoria depends on dopamine... so is coke really useless? i knw that meth aint a local anaesthetic however does it make u numb like coke, cocaines numbness is amazing...

 

coke is usually heavily cut, so i wouldn't bother with that. Try MDMA, MDA, or strong analogues of amphetamines

 

ive never done crystal but i have had some rediculously tweaky pills in high amounts.
and really, there no competition
meth is the ultimate head-spinner

 

there have been some stims ive been meaning to check out recently.
MDPV and Desoxypipradrol
Desoxypipradrol has an insane half life so depending on what you mean by "ultimate stimulant" it could be up there.

 

Im not talking about pills, im talking about snorting, smoking and IVing Meth or Cocaine...

 

mdma and mda are more empatheogens and entactogens than stimulants, and ecstasy is notoriusly impure as much as cocaine... Plus coke n meth are a whole different ball game than ecstasy...

 

Im talking about intensity not duration...

 

navajas i would have to side with the crystal devil lol. i was doin a lot of coke a few years back and my buddy busted out a fat line i thought was coke. wel it was actually crystal and i did the whole thing and had the best rush ever! it sucked at first cuz i didnt know wat was happening and it felt like my eyes were gonna pop outta my skull but that subsided and despite not being able to sleep for a solid 30 hours it was WAY better than coke.

 

u didnt sleep for 30 hours from a line of meth?!?! damn!!! shit is intense, shudda followed it with heroin lol... so a meth rush n high is exactly like cocaine but much more intense n longer lasting? does it cuz numbness?

 

it caused a little numbness for me and it wasnt a normal line lol we had been doin half gram gaggers and a couple grammy gaggers and this line of meth was a huge line for meth especially for the first timer and yea its a little dif than a coke high. much more stimulating but basically the same principle and i like it way more. i cant find it newhere around here in my state so i've just been stick to white but if i could get some again i would def do it again its way better like i said. haha def should have done a bag of h but i didn't do h at the time

 

weeee ok someone sure is picky in his argument!

 

id have to say 2ce in a high dose, like really high dose over 60mg it far more intense then meth. trippin on 2ce for 2 hours dose to me what getting tweaked on meth for a month straight dose. also id just like to say that 60mg of 2ce is like 3 times more then a heavy dose and should not be ingested by anyone who values there life or there mind

 

sorry if thats how i sounded, didnt mean to...

 

Do u feel on meth that ur the king of the world n everything revolves around u like u feel on cocaine?

 

haha i was god for 10 hours lol

 

so then a meth/heroin speedball would kick cocaine/heroins ass?

 

Whenever I do MDMA or MDA i find myself feeling like I just took a mass amt. of amphetamines. MDA gave me a super speed effect instead of the supposed "psychedelic" effects they should have given me. Unless I got something besides MDA...and yeah, I know they are in different ballparks altogether. But when MDMA has methamphetamine in it, there has to be some stimulant effect.

 

i would def assume so. although i dont have ne firsthand accounts of someone shootin up meth but i def think its something i need to try soon

 

try some piracetam sometime. it's excellent stuff http://www.erowid.org/smarts/piracetam/ and totally legal too.

 

ive been able to get pure yaba today, smoked it n that shit reminded me of how much i hate stimulants (especially amphetamines or amphetamine related drugs)... I stayed up for 2 days, the comedown is horrible, n i dnt knw how people consider that a fuckin high!!! On cocaine its more about the godly feeling u get than the stimulating effect... with cocaine its all about how ur mind feels, with meth theres no such thing its only a body high... euphoria factor is minimal on meth, its so physical, so irritating, u feel so energized, ur body feels powerful but ur not capable of doing any shit... u keep on thinkin that theres something missing, ur thoughts r so distorted n chaotic, u keep on talkin until ur mouth gets dry, n then u talk more, stupid stuff, STUPID!!! dopamine is flooding ur brain but yet ur too anxious, ur so horny yet u cnt get a hard on! its the exact opposite of getting high! cocaine gets u high this shit gets u tweaked n only tweaked. i dnt how people get addicted to meth n r ready to throw their lives away for it. heroin i understand, cocaine i understand! cocaine makes me feel like a rockstar, meth made me feel like i drank 8 gallons of redbull, thats it... i was so disappointed, n im never touching a stimulant other than coke, NEVER even ecstasy... coke is the only stimulate i like cuz its duration is short...