Schools warned after plans found in Iraq

Discussion in 'America Attacks!' started by Pressed_Rat, Oct 7, 2004.

  1. Sera Michele

    Sera Michele Senior Member

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    I suggest you study up on propaganda techniques.

    http://www.propagandacritic.com/articles/ct.sa.fear.html

    From http://www.jdchandler.com/propaganda.htm

    Card Stacking -- Card stacking is a technique where an apparently logical argument is employed, usually to incite fear. Card stacking is used in conjunction with the other techniques, which are often used to hide logical fallacies within the argument. Fear is a key ingredient in most of the propaganda techniques, but especially in Card Stacking. In order for an appeal to fear to be effective it must meet three criteria: 1). The more frightening the better as long as it doesn't violate rule number two; 2). The appeal cannot leave the audience hopeless; 3). There must be a suggestion for action that will relieve the danger.

    A good example of this technique is a quote from a speech by Adolf Hitler:

    "The streets of our country are in turmoil. The universities are filled with students rebelling and rioting. Communists are seeking to destroy our country. Russia is threatening us with her might, and the Republic is in danger. Yes - danger from within and without. We need law and order! Without it our nation cannot survive." - Adolf Hitler, 1932

    Now what does all this sound very similar to?
     
  2. MagicMedicine

    MagicMedicine Sailor Scent

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    Thank you Sera, you seem to have found my point.

    FBI has already stated that the Bush administration has been putting out these terror reports based on nothing. Inagoda, the ignorant thinking that you speak of is your own.

    When the time comes and there really is a threat, no one is going to listen to it, or just brush it off. Your administration has effectively broken the trust between the government and the people several times. It's only people such as yourself that blindly believe that Bush is looking out for America and not his own re-election.
     
  3. Moonjava

    Moonjava Senior Member

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    Really! What John Kerry is heading toward is a one world government that will strip us of our liberty, and it's so scary that people don't have the sense to see through him. (But the Bible does speak of this in the last days) Of course if Kerry found a terroristic threat, he'd be a hero. But since we're talking about Bush's administration, liberals insist on taking it and saying he's trying to scare the people. Yes, the school discs are old news, by the way. On a rado talk show I listen to, they discussed it for a long time about a week ago. And anyone who goes to a hospital and is sick will get medical attention--they're not going to just let you die. My boyfriend, for example, had a kidney stone, and he still got medical help --no insurance. Pay your bill or don't, but they're not just going to let you die. My brother, for another example, has had beat cancer twice in the past 10 years-- no insurance.

    I thought W kicked ass at the debates, by the way. Kerry's such an evil horse-looking sissy.

    And if you're that concerned about pollution, then you can buy a horse to get you around. They're not extinct, you know. Or a bicycle would work well also. Or you could save up some cash and get some kind of solar operated ride. It's just that people in this country are too spoiled to do anything like that because they are so used to having cars to get them around. Go join an Amish community... they use almost no energy. It's funny that when someone makes a good point on this forum, 5 liberals jump right in and call it ridiculously stupid.

    The end is coming.
    Jesus Christ is Lord!
     
  4. MagicMedicine

    MagicMedicine Sailor Scent

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    Moonjava, I'm going to go ahead and appologize for you for that last post.

    Listen people, I'm sorry. I think she skipped her meds today. You know how that goes.


    As for the rest of you conservatve whinners, get a clue. You are willingly steering your country down, and enjoying it the whole way.
    I'm going to enjoy America while I can.
     
  5. Moonjava

    Moonjava Senior Member

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    Same here, before (Heaven forbid) John Kerry gets into office and arms our troops with spit balls. Then we can just fight the war on our home land.
     
  6. boringtree

    boringtree Custom User Title

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    i can smell another 9/11 on the horizon and its not just because im hungry
     
  7. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    And you liberal crack heads are slowly turning our country and the whole world into 1 giant government where people can't handle their own responsibilties and the best way to get rid of a dictator is threaten him with sanctions, then have the world government let him illegaly abuse the system and pocket money from certain countries.
     
  8. Moonjava

    Moonjava Senior Member

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    This is absolutely where we are headed if the American people don't wake up. We need our liberty, and other countries need theirs, too. This is the only wey we can defeat terror.
    And yes, we can see that the UN's tactics didn't work when it came to peacefully searching for WMDs in Iraq. They ran away yelping like a bunch of scared puppies. So W has balls... good for him. Good for the US and Iraqi citizens.
     
  9. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    The UN can't do anything, that's why we need to, Bosnia, Congo, Sierra Leone, Iraq, Somalia, the only thing the UN ever really did was Korea, and 85% of soldiers in Korea were Americans, but the left seems to think the UN is higher then any other government.
     
  10. HonkyTonk

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    I think we should pull out of the UN. Not a goddam nation on the security council favors America. The UN is a corrupt and damn near useless organization.
     
  11. green_thumb

    green_thumb kill your T.V.

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    If everyone, or even half of Americans lived at my level of consumption the world would be far less polluted. I do not own a car and rarely ride in one. I got this computer minus upgrades as a graduation gift and my roomates use it too. We don't have a T.V.
    You are really foolish to think we can't drive or build houses without polluting so much. The technology is there, Bush just loves oil and doesn't fund other alternatives or place regulations on existing sources of pollution in fact he rolled many of them back. Get a clue.

    Dumb. Just dumb. Under Bush, enough jobs are not created in America to even keep up with the population growth.

    You are too uninformed and completely wacked to even argue with.

    I don't know about that, who cares anyways. I concern myself with important events such as terrorist attacks that our "president" allows to happen or even coordinates. Comparing 9/11 with silly conspiracy theories makes you look like a half-wit. Of course, the rest of your post helps me draw that conclusion.
     
  12. LickHERish

    LickHERish Senior Member

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    Even those jobs which have been "created" are nothing more than service industry jobs guaranteeing a life of working poverty and certainly no answer for the countless numbers of degree holding professionals whose salaried jobs have been eliminated to enhance unrestrained avaricious corporate profiteering.
     
  13. bandit28

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    And you thin kthat will change with Kerry as president? Lick, I have asked you several times now what it is you do to make a difference other than bitch and complain on these forums? I have yet to get an answer. Hate to break it to you people, but Kerry isn't going to make things all better. If Kerry gets elected, he wont stop buisness from outsourceing to other countries. He wont give you absolutly free health care. He wont pull the soldiers out of Iraq. He will enjoy his pay check and his wifes money.
     
  14. Sera Michele

    Sera Michele Senior Member

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    Bandit, what someone does in their personal life is not your business. Lickherish's chooses to make that public to you or not is his perogative.

    You don't have to accept that Lick does any political work any more than we have to accept that voting for Kerry wont change anything.

    But just because a person won't tell you what they do in their personal life doesnt mean that all they do is bitch and complain on forums. Stop antagonizing people. If you want people to respect and consider your ideas than you need to be respectful yourself.
     
  15. LickHERish

    LickHERish Senior Member

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    Ive told you what I do, but your head is so far up your ass trying desperately to avoid facing the reality of the wholesale sellout of the nation by your beloved right wing criminal cabal, that you youd rather do as they and villify the messengers who try to warn you than open your eyes to the laughably visible truth of where our country is being led, lie by lie.

    As for revealing who I am to you or anyone else on this or any other public board, you must be more stupid than even your posts already suggest you are if you think Id compromise myself and my clients in such fashion.

    Go right on cheering for wanton lying traitors to our nation, our constitution and to the world, which we mere 5% of the global population, must sooner or later learn to share equitably before our overconsumption (and the MNCs and their corporate media mouthpieces who foster it) becomes our ruination. When the Bush cabal have finally entrenched their police state, war-justifying drones like yourself will see just how readily our own military is to gun down American citizens in the streets or cart them away to indefinite detention without trial if they dare fight back with armed revolution as you seem to suggest as the only proof of "doing something about it".

    Ill certainly cry no tears for you or any of your ilk when you wake to find yourself in the midst of the very conditions you were warned of, but chose to ridicule and dismiss as conspiracy theory.
     
  16. airforcedrew

    airforcedrew Banned

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    No no no no Lick... The world is not gonna end, america isnt gonna turn into a military/police state. Bush isn't "the devil." (im still not voting for him) The military isn't the devil too. Not everyone who doesn't agree with you is a "drone." You know a nice "I dissagree," without a string of long winded insults, followed by "ilk," would prolly get more people to take your seriously. Im sure you don't care though. You have your conspiracy theory safty blanket over your head. (IM NOT SAYING ALL THEORYS ARE BAD... just yours) Its all good. One day you might wake up and realize your "ilk." Is just rotting away living in fear.
     
  17. LickHERish

    LickHERish Senior Member

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    And thats where your sniveling derisive and dismissive denials are wrong again andrew. I dont live in fear, I live in disgust over the transparency with which those such as you are resting smugly in your own little deluded worlds of well spun mainstream groupthink. Happily diverted from one isolated event to another never quite rational enough to connect the dots and see what is very much transpiring both at home and abroad.

    Like ive said many times, your smug safety blanket is gonna be yanked away by the very people you think wouldnt ever hurt or turn on their own people. Wake up call, this cabal doesnt consider you anything more than fodder, a tool and theyll happily watch you and your loved ones rot so long as they retain preeminence over the nation, however much of our money they have to spend and however many future generations' prospects they have to mortgage to do it.

    Cheney and Co brought you the "war which will not end in our lifetimes", hell they even coined the phrase so while your busy closing your eyes to the truth so you can gain some momentary sense that I couldnt possibly be more than a crackpot, things will continue to develop just as I first pointed out they would when i started posting here and will continue until you wake up and face the music.

    Ill be sure to call this thread up when the day for "I told you" so comes round. Then we'll see who is living in delusion.
     
  18. Co0kiezGurl

    Co0kiezGurl Banned

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    Gah! Stop it stop it stop it! Please! We are not deluded, we are not living under this freakin' "safety blanket", we do not trust our freakin retarded government whole heartedly (I barely do at all and this man asked me to marry him so what does that tell you about him??)! Jesus christ man. Just because someone disagrees with you or doesn't always think everyone's out to get us, doesn't mean that person is a drone, deluded, or other such nonsense you keep calling drew. He does not agree with everything our government does, I know, we've had many a discussion about our government. While I AM indeed more cynical of them than he is, he has actually listened to me and agreed with me when I actually make a decent argument and have the sources and such to back it up! And vice versa. He pays attention, he knows what's going on, as do I. No, you can't say that for everyone in this country. There are some government lovers who believe everything the gov't tells them, and there are some gov't haters who believe every conspiracy theory out there as long as it's not a mainstream view. And there's freakin' everything in between. You just cannot keep spouting off this mess about Drew being this little sheep. It's freakin' annoying. Now, when he reads it he'll just get on here and spout back to you, continuing the bitch fight y'all have had goin' since ya first disagreed. But dammit, I just get annoyed. It's just crazy the amazing amount of bullshit you spew about someone you don't have a clue about. Back up your theories with something substantial (I mean god, throw us a link, a book recomendation or something) and quit it with the lame glorified-name-calling you're so keen on.
     
  19. bandit28

    bandit28 Member

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    No, that is to easy to do. We should just take Licks' word that what he says is honest. Actualy, scratch that crap. As far as I am concerned, if Lick isn't willing to reveal who he is and how he is in the know of all of this then he is just another fat guy in his underwear with cheetos stuck to his fingers. Anyone can say they are someone. Hell, my name is Kerry and I approve of this message!
     
  20. Sera Michele

    Sera Michele Senior Member

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    Hell, how do we know you aren't?

    This is an internet forum, not a singles club.
     
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