Looking to start a 10'x20' Xeriscape off of my main Garden for growing Adams Needle Yucca and other medicinal desert plants and was wondering if anyones got that "full list" of active Cacti laying about. I used to have a comprehensive list but seems to have dissapeared.
Well I read somwhere many many moons ago about there being a number of Cacti which contain the same or similar alkaloids as San Pedro / Peyote but were legal to cultivate, common stuff like you could buy anywhere that sold plants. That list.
Heres a list of cacti. I don;t think its all of them but its a great5 start. I would be leary about ordering frome these guys though. I got ripped off $53. I did order illegal products so Im not sure If i got legit product they would deliver. They do carry certain exotica like peyote seeds. so start off legal and maybe slip in some taboo herb. e
Well God I hope not! lol Seriously, wheres that list and what Guy's are you talkin bout? Mabey come back when the Bong wears off a bit and answer that.
I'm not sure there really is a complete list. There are several rare cacti that there have been reports of psychoactive ethnobotanical use but never further investigated to any extent, so nobody knows what they do, if anything.
Mabey it was over at erowid. But theres a freaking list of active (thou mildly so) Cacti somwhere out there, granted it's a short list, but they're all legal. Well I'll post back if I ever find it. *** Yep, http://www.erowid.org/plants/cacti/cacti_guide/cacti_guide.shtml http://www.erowid.org/plants/peyote/peyote_cactus_guide.shtml
this is the list you were looking for. listing hallucinogenic and psychoactive cacti by genus: http://www.thewildclassroom.com/biodiversity/floweringplants/extras/cactaceae hallucinogenics.htm
Wow that blows the doors off the erowid info, thanks alot Bro, now if only I can find a variety hardy to my climate here in zone 6a I wont have to build a greenhouse. Probably will anyway
Yea', Erowid has a Massive listing of cacti, but a good deal of them are listed as having "reports of an unknown alkaloid". So while I suppose it's technicly more comprehensive, many on the list are a craps shoot as to what you're dealing with. So yea', Erowid had what I was looking for, but Omacatls link contains what I really wanted. Not kocking Erowid in any way, great site with enough info to keep me busy for years without ever having time for planting a seed or packing a bowl.
My advice would be to start with the basics, San Pedro, Peruvian Torch, Bridgesii. Then, move on to Peyote, Juul's giant, Terscheckii, Hystrix, etc.
Cool, any thoughts on which are the most cold hardy of the more active varieties? Probably wont be setting up a greenhouse for a couple years so for now it's got to be able to survive a Missouri winter.
peruvianus and cuzcoensis have been known to survive to temperatures below freezing, providing they have not been watered recently.