just had to read some marx

yay!!!!

 

I started reading the communist manifesto and it seemed like a lot of very generalized and pious rambling. Before you kill me please note that I only started reading it and it just wasn't what I expected. I do intend to read it all the way through when I run out of stimulating reading material.

I agree with Nesta on the idea of the "revolution being far from the minds of the burgeoise". Our culture is dominated by an enormous, comfortable and comparatively free middle class with about as much revolutionary spirit as...I don't know, a piece of cardboard. Thats about the smartest thing I have to say on the subject, I really need to start thinking about these things again. Seeing as I am a blank canvas, who wants to brainwash me?

 

I cannot answer for Shane, but if you want my answer it would be all of the above, though Buffet and Soros are simply gofers for the banking families such as the Rothschilds. I mean, most people know about the havoc created by Soros in the early 90s when he bet against the pound and sent the UK into deep economic turmoil. But I digress.

The US economic system is controlled via the private banks of the Federal Reserve.

 

wtf are you talking about?

 

Like i said, dont confuse laissez faire with CORPORATISM or CRONY CAPITALISM...

 

Most leftists are unable or unwilling to understand the difference. They think this is a free market system that is purely capitalistic when it is far from it.

They believe the state (which is owned and controlled by the banks and transnationals) is the solution to everything.

 

yeah i know, like i said, i like to laugh at the commies lol, sometimes i throw stuff at them too, but not when they are looking cause they always hang out in big groups LOL!

 

That was a good read, I haven't even been able to get into detail with him yet

I will!!!
Society is having the heat turned up on it, and personal freedoms are slowly diminishing to see the perfect temperature to cook the world in, go beat up the chef

 

It's Das Kapital lite. Of course, Das Kapital classic isn't exactly a thrilling read.

It is certainly an interesting way of looking at the world, but needs to be taken with a fairly large grain of salt.

 

Is that directed at me?

 

Would it be better to try nothing so I can keep my moral high-ground and my self-righteous utopianism?

What you do, Rat- is like the kid who doesn't try to answer the questions on the exam to the best of his ability, all the while thinking he's too smart for it.

That way, when he gets a B- he can claim: "If only I had tried my all, I would have gotten an A."

That's the problem with anarchism-

 

In Das Kapital, which I have read, Karl Marx talks about the creation of three superstates that would eventually be merged under one centralized government. This is exactly the direction we are heading with the EU and now the NAU.

 

Did you go to university, Rat? Just out of curiosity.

 

Absolutely not. It wasn't directed at anyone.

 

I did, yes. But I dropped out before I graduated.

 

I don't blame you. Last semester... And then I can cut the bullshit.

 

it was directed at lefties and i'll second the notion. Never understood why lefties think the State is good or fair or nuetral or whatever, its just another organized group albiet a very powerful one, there is nothing fancifully pure or wholesome about the state even the supposedly democratric socialist ones. the only reason lefties push for a stronger state with more reach is cause it's the only entity powerful enough to force their beliefs onto everyone else in the name of securing "rights" that are not even natural rights but made up by the lefties, its a power generator for ego trippers and control freaks

in my opinion at least

 

I consider myself to be of the Left, but it's not like I'm in favour of living in tee-pees, scrapping the internet, and squandering all of society into a co-op where everybody goes Agrarian.

I see where Socialism fits into the political world, where it rests upon the economic scale and systems in place, and I have a tendency to favour it over everything else out there. Not because I value the government or because I think that people need to be controlled, but because I value rights to gay marriage, freedom of mobility, stricter trading laws and closing the doors upon corporations becoming more profitable than countries.

 

If you notice, I mentioned individuals; not corporations.

In fact, the problem is that these are individuals whose influence have transcended the purview of the remainder of society.

I don't view states as either fair or wholesome or pure.

In fact, I haven't experienced purity at all. It's a figment of utopian imaginings.

 

careful there Prax, those are dangerous words.