Yeah I believe in this stuff but haven't had much time to get started and not inclined to on blind belief. I am one of those ppl who need science or testimonials (that aren't flaky) to believe. Yet part of me believes, so give me the other part. Can anyone share that a spell they used worked? Am not interested in black magick, only the opposite. So tell me and I guess others here, some proof that spells work. I know the methods, just want to hear your stories for evidence. Anyone?
hiya, I personally dont use spells I just use what is known as my power and the energies. I have physically healed an open wound which was kinda shockin to me and the person I healed. I have also caused changes in the earths climate in some cases, which proved devistating so I took a step back on that. There is more that I could speak of but this will do lol Who needs spells when you have the will lol Peace
wo , i think it's about making a good relation beyond words in more a image/visualizing way . i'm mostly just a nature guy , talking to animals and clouds and wind . now and then i find a scared nervous woman walking about in public and she's to me the strangest of any animal . she's frightened of a man she don't even know . so i do this . we are strangers passing in the dark , and what i start doing eases her mind . i feel my feet to be sinking into the earth . i make it a fact - that for a moment this man is no more predator than a tree . i don't know - i'd think a walking tree could be even scarier . this all started when a woman on the street one day just looked at me and ran away screaming . cripey . the fear situation may be altogether psycho understandable , still , i'm pretty much sure it's an awful feeling to be feared .
One spell I've cast has served it's purpose. A friend of mine has tendonitis in her right arm and a torn ligament in her right wrist. She and I both love color guard. She is in dire need of surgery, but if she gets the surgery, she can't perform until next year. I cast a spell that will postpone her pain and her surgery until after this season is over, and it will also heal her fast enough to be ready for the next season. How can you prove that? You can't really. I just know that it's going to work because it's going to work. It's kind of hard to 'prove' it, but I know where you're coming from. I remember the day that magick proved itself to be real. I'll make the story short. Every sunday my friends and I go out to dinner. One particular Sunday I had no gas in my car and no money for dinner. One fried owed me gas money because I drove him to the airport, and another friend owed me dinner because I worked a shift for her. Both of those 'coincidences' happened on the exact same day to my utmost convience. I had gas and dinner taken care of, because Karma caught up with me. I'm sure the day you're ready to know what the universe wants you to, you will. Just keep believeing!
i was living in a candle factory working for room & board & really wanted my own place but couldn't come up with first & last + deposits. i had just moved to a new city and was completely alone. i did a ritual every morning & night--it started with a novena to st teresa of the flower jesus, reading affirmations, and staring at a layout of my 'dream' apt that i had drawn on pink paper. i then would read the 23rd psalm while visualizing me in my new apt. about a week later i accidently let a death prediction out in a reading i gave--turns out the person died a week later & was a local celebrity. within 2 weeks i was SWAMPED with readings. by the end of that month i had first/last + deposits and an extra few months rent ready in cash and was able to move by the first of the next month. here's the kicker--i called a bunch of places in the paper & only one returned my call--when i went to check it out the layout was EXACTLY like my picture and a plaque of the 23rd psalm was hanging by the front door--the previous tenant had left it. it was my sign!
Ah...I hadn't thought of this as a spell, but mara-aum's note showed me that I should share this. There have been lots of similar events in my life, but let me now just share about my car. In October 2000 my old decrepit Oldsmobile was on its last legs. The loan on our Chevy Astro was almost paid off, so I decided it was time for me to think about getting myself a new car. I went online with Consumer Reports, did some research...finally I decided the car I wanted was a 1998 Toyota Sienna. I wanted one with a tan color--no power options, around $13,000. My old Oldsmobile was still getting me to work and back though, so I forgot about the new car--until the Oldsmobile finally died, at the very end of the year. So I went to the nearest Toyota dealer right after the new year started. And my car was sitting there on the lot, waiting for me, exactly as I had envisioned it. When the salesman looked up the online info for this car, he told me it had been sitting on the lot since October. It was there waiting for me from the moment I first envisioned it, exactly as I had pictured it in my mind. Is this a spell? Seems to be very closely related. And the house I'm living in was the same way. And a major salary raise I got a few years ago was also the same.
I have had some wonderful experiences with spells. My idea of a spell, though, is probably not typical. I used to use incense and candles , chants and all that jazz until I realized that I didn't really need that stuff. What I started to do was see what I wanted strongly in my mind and heart. And I would say to myself that whatever I get should do no harm to anyone. I would hold those thoughts until I felt peace, then I would "release" them to the universe. The first time I did this around money ( had to do it a few times) ,an inheritance from France came through. An uncle that I had no knowledge about passed away without a will, so all his living relatives - distant as well received the benefits. He had no kids, and he was my fathers step brother. My father had never told us. The second time I tried to find a love, but I was just too cynical - lol- so YES I purchased a love spell online! It was on a cd that was very much in line with my beliefs that it's all in the heart. At first it made me feel really relaxed and joyful, but the more I listened to it, I gave up my cynical resistance.I started to feel love flow into my heart and a clarity around someone coming in. I would say it took less than a couple of months until I met Edward. I really care for that man and he is very good to me and my kids. Time will tell. Here's the link if your interested http://www.powerfullovespell.com/intro.shtml It actually worked. I never thought that a love spell could, but this did, and in spades! And the third time was when I cut myself off from my ex-husband. I just imagined him happy with his life and I felt myself in a clear whitelit bubble. He is still giving me somewhat of a rough time, but now its way more manageable! I would be very interested to know if any of what I said worked for you.
spells... mantras... NLP it's all of the same exact nature. Ways to deeply imprint intentions in your brain, alter the flow of energies through the body. personally I really like mantras. You can verify yourself that it works. Just make simple phrase, a few words which will set the intentions you want. Whenever your brain is getting away from you, just relax and repeat them over and over until it's calm. 'Spells' as in occult magick type things can get more complex cause you mix in charms, crystals whatever into the equation of setting intention, which at times can allow you to hardwire an intention quicker. But accurately used mantras I think can be better in alot of ways. For one, their portable.
If you want proof, try do some magic with a child. The power comes from belief/faith that an action SHOULD take place. If there is enough expectation for something to happen, then it will happen. example: myself and my niece got a rubber ball to follow us around just by talking to it and telling it what it wanted to do. There's the hitch, getting the elements in concern to agree. It's certainly not worth forcing reality to break away, that has karmic repercussions beyond measure.
I'm blessed enough to be a friend and student of this guy: http://www.meta-magick.com/ I met him at Starwood. He lives a few miles away, a little closer to Kingston than me. I have to admit, I haven't read The Book of Atem yet. I had dinner with Phil and his wife last weekend, and he told me that he thinks I've absorbed most of the information by osmosis by now. I don't know about that, and I still feel like I should read my friend's book, though. Anyway, last fall I studied NLP with him up to the level of Master Practioner. I was hoping to expand my Tarot consultation practice with it, and expand into Tarot Life Coaching. Meta-magick was developed based on the essential principles of Thelemic magick, combined with NLP and other influences, like memetics. Meta-Magick, and Atem, the entitity which is the book that teaches it, is Phil's "baby", his own unique system that expands on what he wrote in FutureRitual, as well as strongly influencing his teaching style as an NLP pratitioner & trainer, especially techniques such as the metaphoric reframe. Studying NLP or any other form of hypnosis is a wild ride, because so much is going on on a subconscious level. The very nature of the training has you moving in and out of different states of consciousness, and picking up subtle suggestions that you're not even consciously aware of. One of the exercises we learned in the Practioner training seminar was a technique to help with accomplishments. Phil had us think of something that we'd like to learn, but didn't think we would. I picked playing the banjo. (I really love bluegrass, and would like to play banjo and mandolin, but I have other priorities.) After the exercise, while still sitting in the "client" chair, I joked with him that if I spent my money on a banjo instead of taking the master prac seminar, it'd be his own faullt. He joked right back that when I came back for master prac, I would be expected to play the banjo! It was just a joke, so we both forgot about it. I did shop around for banjos and look up a few picking patterns online, and bought a couple of instruction books, but decided I had other priorities for my money, not the least of which was moving back across state to my beloved Hudson Valley, as well finishing my training. I decided not to get the banjo right away. I did take the master prac seminar, but starting the first day I began to get these really bad migraine headaches. I was also displaying this nervous, finger-tapping behavior that I'd never done before or since. The pain intensified as the seminar progressed, and on about the third day the pain was so intense I thought I'd have to go home and miss half a day's material. Rather than let that happen, Phil changed the lesson plan for the day, and pushed ahead to pain relief techniques. He had me sit in the client chair, and by this point the finger-tapping had increased to the point of urgency, as had the pain. Phil related the tapping to the pain, and had me slow the tapping down to see what happened. The pain lessened, and it became apparent that there was an obvious pattern to the tapping. Phil is of course a writer, and was curious to see what it was I was "typing". He had me slow the tapping down even further. He didn't recognize the pattern, but I did - it was the Earl Scruggs roll, the only picking pattern I'd managed to learn. It was then I remembered the joke from practioner training: there I was, at master prac, and I was "playing the banjo", just as "expected". We had a good laugh, and the headaches eased enough to let me finish the seminar. My Meta-Magick stories are even more intense, and I'm not sure which one to relate here. I use magick for self-development, so my practice is really personal. I did use the NLP and Meta-Magick techniques to help my kids and I through the intense period immediately after the fire, and am still using it now to transcend PTSD and lyme-disease related depression. The afternoon following the fire, I was understandably overwhelmed. I was having flashbacks, smelling smoke (everything we were wearing smelled like nasty toxic soot anyway) and "seeing" the flames. The image seemed huge in my memory, and was right there, so close it would have been right in my face had it been physical. Thanks to my training I was able to recognize the flashbacks as tools, and used the few techniques I could remember in my distressed state to "distance" myself from the image, and "make it smaller" so it wasn't so overwhelming. I can't say I haven't had any flashbacks since, I have, especially when triggered by an anchor such as the smell of my neighbors burning garbage, but they have been surprisingly few and far between, considering how long I stayed in the apartment trying to put the fire out. I also used Phil's Meta-Magick evocation-influenced metaphoric reframe on my son's nightmares. In the technique Phil taught us, we actually create and evoke an entity representing a problem state, engage in dialogue with it to discover its positive intent, and then evoke a resource state which is applied to the problem entity in order to give it what it needs. (You might have to see The Book of Atem for a clearer explaination if any of that confuses you.) My son was having nightmares in which a "fire demon" was cornering him and taunting him, calling him names, ridiculing him, and putting him down. Using Phil's techniques we evoked the fire demon from the dream, and found out that it what it wanted was good feelings of safety and security. I guided Damien (my son) through the reframe, and the "fire demon" changed into a comforting bubble of cool mist. I taught him how to evoke his new ally before bedtime, and at night when he had bad dreams. He still gets occaisional nightmares, but it helped a lot. The nightmares did lessen, and he began feeling better, safer, and drawing pictures to help him work through his fears. I have some more interesting Meta-Magick stories around personal demons that I have evoked, transformed and continue to work with, but I'll have to post those later (if people are interested) because I need to make pasta for hungry children, and then get them to bed.
I was right, SweetBriar - this IS fascinating. Spirits - for some reason my life took an unexpected turn, and spirits seem to be a big part of my current existence. It seems as if they're trying to tell me that they are the ones in charge - seems to be a hierarchy, and the experiences I have are the ones they decree for me and allow me. And yet they have also allowed me the power to vanquish some "evil" spirits for a few people - yet the whole thing smacks of a tongue-in-cheek setup for my personal benefit, with many entities laughing behind the scenes. Please do post more when you can. Thanks.
Have you read Lon Milo DuQuette's My Life With the Spirits? I haven't read it all the way through, every copy I've had got stolen or "borrowed" before I finished. I think success with entities has a lot to do with how you approach them, your "frame" of mind if you will. Recently Phil was interviewed for the Occult Sentinel's podcast, and talked quite a bit about entities and memetics. You also might find the videos on entity modelling on his website to be interesting. At any rate, it's best to approach entities from a frame that is open and empowered, and not fearful and controlling. I have kind of a useless skill: I can write Theban cipher from memory, just as fluently as I can write in English letters. Theban cipher is also called "Witches' Runes"; it's a substitution code once used by ceremonial magicians (I believe some Latin phrases encoded in Theban cipher appear in The Key of Solomon somewhere, but it's been years since I've read it so I could be wrong.) Gardner's original Book of Shadows was written out in Theban. As it's name suggests, it was reputed to come from the ancient Egyptian city of Thebes, alledgedly used by Hermetic magicians, but we know this not to be factually true. Nonetheless it's "traditional" for many modern Wiccans, and at any rate, it looks cool carved onto a candle or incribed on a talisman. I used to make hand-made altar pentacles and altar talismans that I'd wood-burn and paint on plates, plaques and bread boards and sell or barter at Pagan festivals and occult shops. Some people wanted custom work, with their magickal names or intent written in Theban. Over time I just happened to get the whole alphabet memorized. After the fire I was staying with a friend who meant well, but was a little invasive. I was afraid to keep a journal, but I really needed to write out my grief. On a whim, I decided to see if I could still write in Theban, and found that I still had the entire alphabet committed to memory. So I kept my journal in Theban, and could write out my darkest drama without my friend reading it and getting upset. Remeber that, it relates to the story I'm about to tell you. This past spring I met the organizer of a Pagan festival at a meetup in a bar. He overheard me talking about Tarot with another guest, and that I had been trained by Phil, and talked me into submitting lecture proposals. I tipsily agreed, and the proposals were accepted. It then occurred to me that I'd have to actually write and present the damn things. I was stuck, I had a serious case of writer's block. I felt like I'd never be able to write another word again. I decided to evoke that which prevented me from writing. The feeling began in my chest area, and was pulsing and tight. When I evoked it, it took the form of an angry pair of red horns, which later shaped itself into a scrawny, jittery satyr-type creature with the same long, red horns. I named him Red Horn, because I was not feeling especially creative. I got into dialogue with Red Horn, using the NLP technique for heirarchy of criteria to figured out what he wanted from me, what need he was attempting to fulfill in a dysfunctional way. (One of the basic tenets of NLP is that all negative behaviors have a positive intent. I needed to find out what its positive intent was.) After about two questions, his bravado crumbled and he begged for safety. Apparently Red Horn is a protective entitiy, he's just really, really neurotic about it. He said he could never let me write because he wanted to be safe. I remembered my journal and Theban. I asked him, what if I wrote in code? Oh yes, I like that! Ok, I said. I will offer you three pages of freewriting in Theban cipher every day, and you will let me write. And so now when I have writer's block, or am feeling bad about my writing, I write out three pages of whatever drivel comes to mind in Theban cipher, and it helps free me up a little. What is Red Horn? Is he a spirit, a demon, a psychological construct, a figment of my imagination? I am going to put forth the controversial notion that it couldn't possibly matter less. Is Red Horn "real" or not? It's completely irrelevant. (Funny synchronicity: while I'm writing this, I just got an email from Phil about the Meta-Magick online course he's teaching through the Maybe Logic Academy, which starts in 4 days.) I continue to make use of Red Horn for other things. Part of the way he would prevent me from writing before involved distraction. So before ritual, when I can't sleep, when I'm writing or working on another project requiring concentration, I "run" him almost like a computer program. He putters, paces, raids my fridge, talks on the phone, and does all the things that I would do to distract myself from writing. I "watch" him do this for a minute or so, and then let him continue to work outside of my attention, which I can then turn to whatever task is at hand. If I am distracted by a troubling thought, I say "Take a memo, Red Horn!" and I "watch" him write the thought on a yellow post-it note, which he sticks to one of his horns. On distractable days, his horns may be covered with post-its, which looks rather silly. Humor, I found, works really well with this entity. Again, am I making all of this up? Am I imagining it? Well duh. We "make up" all of our experience, choosing from and editing out an incomprehensible amount of data. Is Red Horn a figment of my imagination? Of course. But so are you and I. Is this just some stupid mind game I'm playing with myself? Honey, it's all a big stupid mind game!:biggrinjester:
That's IT, SweetBriar. ALL a big stupid mind game. It's all shit, and yet not shit. The shit that's given to us to deal with is the reality we've been given to decipher for this life. I think. But what the hell do I know? LOL Goddamn. The reality you've been given is so much more detailed and in extricacy than what I have been given. Why is that? The spirits are playing us off each other for various details...to what end? LOL They keep us on our toes, don't they?
Last night when I wrote my previous post I was drunk out of my mind. I have only the foggiest recollection of writing it. Anyway I'm in a much better state for concentration, analysis, and discernment right now, so I'm going to respond with hopefully some degree of coherency to a few things in your last post. Never heard of it, but maybe I'll put it on my list - thanks. Hell yes. I had a tough time directing my thoughts away from very panicky tendencies before meeting my first "evil" entity, which manifested as a vile and disgusting, slightly corpse-like man with puss-filled eyes. At first I did it by becoming angry at the spirit for the way he was terrorizing a young woman on this forum. Gradually I relaxed and used humor, which was much more effective. Then I laughed my head off the next day when the girl told me how the spirit had shown up again and just skulked in the corner, fuming with silent anger, and no longer tried to scare her. This is a good quote that I want to remember - I've seen this, but never heard it defined this way. Also it's very interesting the way you evoked the "entity" or what have you behind your block - I might want to try that sometime. Red Horn is certainly a real part of your experience, and quite relevant in that regard. Ultimately everything is the same thing pretending to be different things. LOL It's mainly for curiosity's sake that I like to try to figure out what's "really" what, but it "really" does come down to the fact that whatever we experience is simply something we need to experience. As you say: LOL That is it.
You shouldn't post when drunk. I really think you should read Phil's book, too. Both of them will give you an interesting perspective on dealing with spirits and entities. Banishing by laughter is something chaos magicians prefer as the most potent purification. Laughing is such an amazing healer. Dysfunctional behavior is an attempt to meet a need by a method that is no longer useful or appropriate. So much of what I do as a empathic consultant, as a life coach and in my personal practice has to do with just finding a better way to meet needs. The evocation - That's Phil's unique technique. The Book of Atem goes into better detail.
Shucks SweetBriar, was it that bad? Short of finding a way to get my computer to monitor my blood alcohol level and shut down my Internet connection automatically, all I have to rely on is my own discernment, which as you know is somewhat impaired when one is drunk. Or of course, I could give up drinking...God forbid. Kay, I'll add that one to my list also. Being as how the spirits seem to be taking me down this road, maybe there's something I'm supposed to be learning that other folks' experience would help me with. Laughter is so good in so many ways. A few years ago when my spirit guide was getting ready to put me through hell and giving me a taste of things to come, she used to tell me over and over telepathically, "Be fun...have fun...make me fun..." And she used an operant conditioning method on me to get me to be more fun. Whenever I was in my serious, analytical, uptight mode she would totally ignore my e-mails or reply tersely and grumpily. But as soon as my mood broke through to my light, humorous, expansive mode, an e-mail from her would suddenly appear in my in-box, and she would have a fun conversation with me. I think my run-in with the evil spirit was designed for my edification along these same lines. All my lessons are not that successful, unfortunately. Another great definition for me to file away. You seem to have a rich and highly structured understanding of these matters. You exude competency - I'm sure you must be good at what you do. I'm curious about how you got into this work. Did you get any kind of formal education or training, or are you self-taught? It's obvious you read a lot...
I met Phil at Starwood, and signed up for his mailing list. When he sent out the announcement about the anual NLP training, I thought, wow, I really want to do this. I studied NLP with Phil to the level of Master Practioner, and was certified through the Society for NLP. Some of my experiences in practioner training were relayed above. I absorbed much of the material on Meta-Magick just by hanging out & talking with him, reading his mailing list, and attending a couple of his workshops at Starwood. I have additional training and self-study in a variety of occult subjects, including witchcraft and Paganism, magick, and shamanic technique, and 11 years professional experience reading Tarot.