There is no right or wrong here. You are arguing with me about what "forgiveness" means apparently. "Forgiveness" itself is a matter of relativity and perspective. What someone over here might view as being "forgiveness", might not be viewed as "forgiveness" by someone over there. What some cultures believe is "forgiveness", is not believed as "forgiveness" by another culture. My point is that, from what I can tell, all you want to do is argue. And over the fucking internet for fucks sake!!! That is very childish and immature.... and also not what I am here for. If any of you "veterans" would have a given the OP a decent answer in return to their honest question, then I probably would have never posted here to begin with. But you didn't. You just basically hijacked their thread and turned into a conversation about a situation that has absolutely nothing to do with what the OP posted.... Then why would you act like I have no right to be here by childishly stating "I know I'm right" and also having such an offensive way of responding to a post??? Be arrogant all you want..... It's gonna get you nowhere. And to be so "enlightened", as all you make yourselves out to be, you sure are a bunch of argumentative and very defensive people. I'm out, seriously this time. Not that it matters. I would say "the pleasure is all mine", but there has been no pleasure meeting you people. Just annoyance and disappointment.
And you are not "right"... You are as IGNORANT as you are proclaiming me to be. And how can you even see that my head is up my ass with your own head shoved so far up yours?? Now that's a motherfucking question...
You keep rebutting my arguments, does that not mean you're fond of arguing yourself? If you want this to end then end it. I already have presented an answer to the OP. My answer was just as decent as yours, except that I didn't rewrite the dictionary. The only benefit of being a veteran is that I might know some people better than you but I don't consider myself any smarter or more entitled to an opinion than you. Threads rarely stay on course in "random thoughts". Thats why I like it here, its more natural. I don't think hyphy cares. As far as I know, we are both from the same culture and your use of the word forgiveness perplexes me. Not that you're not entitled to use the word in any manner you want, I just don't see the point of telling somebody they are forgiven if they are no longer part of your life. Oh and by the way, there is no hostility here. Its all in your head.
you have a right to be here. you do not have a right to idiocy. it is a gift given you by your keepers, cherish it while they still profit from it.
I do believe that this thread did not really go off topic as stated by the new guy. 1. Hyphy asked about forgiveness. 2. Hyphy stated that there were AK-47's involved. 3. Basically even though not stated, most situations like this involve gang members. Therefore, any mention of gun either it being sexual or how nice they are is acceptable for conversation in my opinion. Not that my opinion matters much. it is safe to assume that a drive by involves gang members, therefore, any mention of gang members or situations involving gang members is acceptable. Just sayin
Hell no. It doesnt matter what the real situation was, they meant to leave me to die. And lets face it, it wasnt a kill or be killed situation. They just had to wait for me for a couple of seconds.
he said he wouldn't. then he made some more posts. then he said he was leaving again, so who knows? it would have been funner the first time anyway.
Not my type of friend..... I hope to never be in that situation. If I were and did have a friend like that.....I would likely forgive him. Over time and with lots of trying to see things through his/her eyes. But I would never smoke or drink with them again, they would have lost that priviledge. But forgive, yep. Stuff is too heavy to carry around
The loyalty thing pisses me off the most. I'd easily trade my life for his but, in turn he's more than willing to give up mine to save his own. Bullshit.
Yep true- but infuriating only in the context of it being a friendship- which said "friend" has demonstrated to be otherwise. Under the new understanding of the relationship I would be forced to forgive a stranger- not because I felt said forgiveness to be called for, but because such scum isn't worth the emotional energy needed to nurture anger over.