My Age

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  1. CuriousKatZ1

    CuriousKatZ1 Member

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    Hey guys, I am 13 and I do smoke a bit of weed, nearly 14. I wanted to know if this is ok? My grades stay up and I barely do it every weekend. Will there be any harm done to my brain? Please reply. thanks for your time. I am very responicble w/ it too..
     
  2. TheShow

    TheShow Senior Member

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    Your reading level is probably going to remain where it is currrently.
     
  3. stalk

    stalk Banned

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    bullshit...I've blazed since I was 13 almost every day of my life... I am smarter than most humans I encounter.
     
  4. nesta

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    well....its a tricky question.

    you have to understand how neural development actually works, and its rather complicated. progressive building of the cells and synapses and all that jazz is overabundant production in utero, and shortly after birth believe it or not a normal and healthily developing individual loses a very large quantity of neurons, as well as a general thining out of dendrites, destruction of synapses and such...

    but a persons nervous system is not usually fully developed until somewhere in their mid 20s, and development actually is largely based on systematic, normal, and healthy refinement and sculpting of the nervous system...

    basically we are physically mature far before we are mentally mature, in some VERY real and significant ways.

    for the longest time there was next to no concrete evidence that cannabis may cause any brain damage at all.

    at least one recent study has caused quite a stir and suggests otherwise to a significant extent, but the sample size was very small and MUCH more research will be needed to verify what the study in question suggests.

    so long story short, it now looks possible, if not probable, that heavy and prolonged use of cannabis may damage the nervous system in some ways. this is VERY different than saying it will make you retarded or anything of that nature - simply that it may contribute to abnormal resculpting of certain portions of the central nervous system.

    at your age, particularly since you are so very young, using marijuana may be more damaging than in someone who is, say, 25+ years old.

    that said, i and many other people have used cannabis regularly, and often too much, at ages where we were still maturing neurologically. i started at 16, i know many people who started younger.

    in general, the people i know who smoked regularly at ages around 13 or younger would appear to suffer more irregular mental development than others, but this is strictly unscientific observation, and in no way indicative of any sort of brain damage or defect.

    personally i find a bit of trouble academically when i use marijuana heavily for an extended period of time. that said, i regain most of my mental aptitude within a relatively short period of time of not smoking regularly.

    another recent study, though not as recent and on a more appropriate scale, showed the IQ of "heavy" cannabis users dropped significantly during periods of heavy use, but these people regained their higher score upon cessation of smoking. HOWEVER this same study suggested that people who smoked only once or twice a week actually improved on their IQ tests compared to not smoking at all!!!

    so basically my thoughts can be summed up as such: smoking regularly, and especially smoking heavily, is certainly a possible and probable cause of abnormal neural development, ESPECIALLY in somebody so young as yourself. however, this is not to say that such abnormal changes will produce a significant or permanent drop in IQ - simply abnormal brain structure, and consequently abnormal brain function (the structure-function relationship must not be underestimated!)

    all things considered, using marijuana once or twice a week (or more ideally, once or twice a month) is not likely to have significant negative effects on development or function, but there is a possibility that heavy, prolonged use may have serious and permanent consequences, even if those consequences do not result in a lower IQ. structure and function are very, very intimately related, and you're at a very important point in your life when it comes to forming proper CNS structure.

    i very highly suggest avoiding regular, heavy use of marijuana. smoking once in a while is not a very big deal, but PLEASE be careful and do not go overboard. i enjoy smoking as much as the next stoner, but there is such a thing as overdoing it....and overdoing it at such a vital time in your development will only potentially be more destructive than it may be later in life.

    my advice is have fun and get high -once in a while- but be careful and dont smoke too much. heavy, prolonged use may or may not be damaging to the brain, its still up in the air....but it cannot help towards your normal and healthy development. if you someday choose to smoke on a daily basis, so be it. but now is NOT the time to do anything like that. besides, there are so many other wonderful things to enjoy, and if you get too used to being inebriated, eventually many people forget how to enjoy themselves without getting high or getting drunk or whatever....

    just be careful!:cheers2:
     
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    yeah dude just dont do it a lot for a couple of years and make sure your grades dont slip and you should be fine but be responsible and know when x days a week is too much for you
     
  6. CuriousKatZ1

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    Thanks man, more opinions plz. (Would also be nice to hear from ppl with experience)
     
  7. CuriousKatZ1

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    And also pplz, I just moved schools, would anybody know a good place to get it? Ppl to hang around? Would it be dangerous to ask ppl older than me in my neighborhood, such as 17-18 yo's?
     
  8. jo_k_er_man

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    i dont think anyone in these forums has any experience with marijuana smoking..
     
  9. CuriousKatZ1

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    Umm, are you being sarcastic? Because Im not looking for smart ass answers, I need to know this seriously..
     
  10. -beatnick

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    well i'm saying i wouldn't start that early although i started at 15, but just keep it to a minimum or for special occasions and all will be well.
     
  11. stalk

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    yes, he is...

    kat, my advice is to use your time spent high wisely.

    marijuana taught me how to meditate and become better at the things I do, like art, music, life...

    a lot of dumb stoners just watch TV...
    IMO that is a great waste of time and not very good for your being.
     
  12. nesta

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    it depends on the people.

    if they're "ok" people, you may get ripped off for a few bucks here and there.

    if they're "shady" people you may get worse. robbed. ratted out. etc.

    i make it a point not to trust drug people entirely unless they're close personal friends of mine.

    there is no real good, surefire advice to help you cop some herb though.
     
  13. †ù®Ké¥ š†ûƒƒïñg

    †ù®Ké¥ š†ûƒƒïñg Eminent Herbalist

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    You always kill me with the fuckin' full page responses man ahah. Sometimes I find it hard to read the whole things, but they're usually good.
     
  14. nesta

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    yeah, i'm overly wordy :(

    i wish i were more concise, but its just my nature.

    i'm not sure if it was meant as a compliment or not lol....either way, cheers:cheers2:
     
  15. CuriousKatZ1

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    Yeh dude, I had just gotten a 20 sack the other day of purp at school, that worked well, but it would also help me if I have a neighboorhood close hookup. Usually I buy it from this stoner kid that has to wait for his big brother to get it from his high school, so usually it takes up to two days to get my shit when I need it. That is not good business at all.
     
  16. nesta

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    at your age its probably the best you can hope for, to be quite honest.

    until its your friends you can call up and do business with directly (and drive over and get it yourself) 2 days is a very good speed.

    you can't really ask for more and expect to get it. not at this point, sorry to say.
     
  17. CuriousKatZ1

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    I know, not alot of people would drive for me even if I did find an adult hook up. Nobody would want to take the risk over somebody my age, but I know alot about this shit and have studied and made sure it was ok before I even as much as looked at it...I am satisfyed that I can even get it at all so I need to be happy bout it :). Unlessss, somehow I get like 100 dollars for an ounce of mids or w/e, so that they could drive, becuase there is not alot of people I don't know that would drive around the block for 100 $....Just if I could find somebody to do that..
     
  18. nesta

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    it depends also on your location, but where i come from.....

    no offense, but unless a 13 year old was already a seasoned, veteran smoker, they aren't likely to get an o for 100.

    i myself am lucky, in my area, to get an ounce of mids for 100. i expect more along the lines of 120-150. now i know it -is- available for less from some folks....

    but unless you know good people, you aren't gonna get that. and at your age, in all honesty, people will fleece you for all they can get.
     
  19. CuriousKatZ1

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    where you from, down here any age has same prices, some people just charge higher. And if something seems sketchy, like if I see somebody trying to sell mids for more than the price is located down here, I would not buy it.. My sisters bf sells it too me when I hang with him, you know even if its kush he will pack my sack extra fat too ^^
     
  20. nesta

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    hahaha.....

    yeah, some people are more expensive, some not as expensive, and quality is NEVER all there is to it.

    but i garauntee you that regardless of where you are, certain (many) people will try and take advantage of you due to age.

    let me repeat: many people will try and take advantage of you due to age.

    period. its universal rergardless of location. they assume you don't know better. and indeed, given your age its likely you haven't been smoking nearly as long as the regular and long term dealers have.

    it may not be as simple as charging you more.

    it may be giving you half a gram less. or a gram less.

    or just talking their shit up, making it sound better than it is. i remember the first two or three years of smoking...if i could get ripped off a joint or less, it was some GOOD shit. and i almost universally got ripped off a joint or less!!

    i'm not trying to talk down to you, so don't take offense. THIS aspect has little to nothing to do with your location. its just the way the black market works.

    how often do you see it weighed out in front of you? do you have your own properly calibrated and regularly maintained digital scale to verify it? how long have you been smoking?

    names like "kush" are largely untrustworthy unless you grow it yourself or PERSONALLY know the grower.

    more often than not you have no clue what you're REALLY getting, and to be honest some of the best looking stuff can be pure trash for what you pay for it, and some lousy looking stuff can seriously surprise you.

    given the fact that you're so young and likely have not been smoking for 3, 4, 5, or 10 years, you're just plain and simple more likely to occasionally get ripped off. because they think you won't realize it.

    and the fact of the matter is, like it or not, it will take a long time before you DO realize whether or not its happening.

    "kush" is meaningless if you didnt grow it yourself or know the grower, and even then a "kush" plant not properly grown will be straight garbage.

    i dont mean to rain on your parade, but at this point in life you simply cannot expect to always get a fair shake.

    this is not to say that EVERYONE will rip you off. thats just as untrue as thinking you can always get a fair deal.

    but its very, very, very likely that in one way or another you'll be had in your life, and the highest concentration of these instances will be now. inexperienced or novice smokers get ripped off very, very, very often.
     

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