Voices

Discussion in 'Mental Health' started by Sign Related, Dec 14, 2007.

  1. Sign Related

    Sign Related The Don Killuminati

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    If a person says to a psyciotrist they hear voices, how is it simply believed when the psyciotrist can get no proof of it actually happening within the person?

    Diagnosing ppl as mentally ill based on no proof shows that truely psyciotrists are showing signs of mental illness.

    What do you think?
     
  2. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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  3. amethystrse

    amethystrse Member

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    I don't understand you. Do you mean to say that because a psichiatrist believes it when someone says they hear voices then the psychiatrist is mentally ill him/herself?

    I hear voices (if I don't take my meds). I don't know why anyone who didn't hear voices would go to a doctor and say that they do. First off, there are a lot of questions the doctor is going to ask. Second, what would be the purpose of it? To get meds? It's not like you get high off of psych meds (well, the ones for voices anyway).
     
  4. Sign Related

    Sign Related The Don Killuminati

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    Voices are induced by astral projectors. Meds arent actually working when it's the astral projector ceasing from inducing the voice. Prolly ceasing when they, from the astral plane, see you take the meds. It's an evil world.

    What about in dreams? Everyone hears voices in dreams so the psichiatrist should answer on whether they get dreams themselves and do they take meds for them. Ha!
     
  5. Moon_Beam

    Moon_Beam zaboravljas

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    There is a period of assessment in which doctors and nurses talk with the person to establish what is happening for them. It could be sleep deprivation, stress - many things cause voices.

    That's the thing with mental illness - it cannot be seen so sometimes in can a long time to find what the cause of symtoms. There are strict diagnostic criteria to be followed, not based on one symptom alone, but ususally3-5.
     
  6. PharmaPhunk

    PharmaPhunk Banned

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    I kinda wish I heard voices
     
  7. groovecookie

    groovecookie Member

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    You can say the psychiatrists are mentally ill, but I've read a thread or two of yours and if a psychiatrist says you are mentally ill, I wouldn't doubt it for a second. I'm not trying to be mean, just honest. At some point I had to stop reading your threads because it became obvious that making any sense at all out of them would have been hopeless.

    I hope you will try to make use of whatever help is offered you, because most people have a hard enough time dealing with the stuff that is actually there, but you have to deal with astral projectors, demons, and god only knows what all in your confused chaotic world of your mind's making.
     
  8. Moon_Beam

    Moon_Beam zaboravljas

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    Interesting stance
     
  9. Levi

    Levi Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    Sometimes when people hear voices it's a complex partial seizure.
    I don't mean to dignify the OP with a response, I just wanted to put that out there so that people know.

    In fact, it is believed that Muhamed had epilepsy. Some go so far as to say that his revelations were seizures.

    The revelation that St. Paul had, when he saw the blinding light and heard a voice telling him to return to wherever? Perhaps a seizure.

    Lewis Carroll and Vincent Van Gogh had the same kind of epilepsy that I do. You know when Van Gogh cut off his ear? At that moment he couldn't feel pain because he did this during a complex partial seizure.

    I have taken stuff out of the oven because I heard the timer ding during a complex partial seizure. I forgot to use a hot pad, though. Several minutes later, as I was coming out of the seizure, I felt pain and looked at my hand. It was covered in blisters! I didn't feel the pain during the seizure.

    Some people (not me) hear voices during their seizures. It's worth checking out.
     
  10. HippyChick1960s

    HippyChick1960s Member

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    Hearing voices (when not astral projection, or anything spiriutal, or even seizures) is often a nutrient deficiency. No, the psychiatrists are not Mentally Ill, they are just backwards, and possibly don't want to loose their income from all thsoe scripts they writee.

    Often to get rid of voices vit B3 has been highly successful! Need to get the type that crosses the brain barrier, and need to take high doses, but do a net search and you can read the high success rate of freeing folks from voices with Niacin. Other vitamins or minerals may also be deficient too, even in a society with lots of quality food, cuz of a variety of health reasons (including poor digestion) but not getting into that, time is short now. Just have read incredicle healing stories of those who took B 3 often with other minerals or vitamins and had great success. Check it out!
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  11. Moon_Beam

    Moon_Beam zaboravljas

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    Voices can be caused by a lot of things, including a serious mental health problem. I have seen many people that are only helped by the medication they are prescribed. Of course I would prefer treatment to be natural, but sadly it is not the case.
     
  12. HippyChick1960s

    HippyChick1960s Member

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    Usually it requires a knowledgeable doctor in the field of natural psychology in order for much of the natural solutions to work. Do a net search for "Orthomolecular" medicine and/or psychiatrist. I'd do both separately cuz first you can read what its all about, then can try to locate such a psychiatrist. They are hard to find! (Not impossible to find.)
     
  13. hippie_chick666

    hippie_chick666 Senior Member

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    What exactly are astral projectors? This seems to be a belief you are attached to, which is in fact, keeping you from realizing the Truth.

    Peace and love
     
  14. hippie_chick666

    hippie_chick666 Senior Member

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    Sometimes, this is true. However, according to The DSM-IV, physical causes (such as nutrient defiencies) must be ruled out before schizophrenia and other disorders are diagnosised. A skillful pyschiatrist would follow this procedure before obtaining a diagnosis.

    Peace and love
     
  15. HippyChick1960s

    HippyChick1960s Member

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    I am surprised so many hippies do not know about natural healing for mental issues! Guess thats why I ended up here. lol Believing too much in the psychiatrists is as bad as not beliving in them at all. They get paid big bucks to keep ppl on medication. When it works, its good until the body gets used to it, then needs an adjustment (higher dose), and as the liver that processes it gets worn down, and over time a higher dose is needed, on and on this goes. Dont get me wrong, I strongly believe in the use of allopathic medicine but to stabilize a person and their life. Then move on to the more natural solutions like orthomolecular. Folks have lots of opinions that it can't be done, but haven't googled it. And we've been brainwashed by the psychiatrists that it can't be done. So here's some links, I googled them myself. :)

    Dr Hoffers Book Online
    http://www.islandnet.com/~hoffer/hofferhp.htm

    B3 and Schizophrenia
    http://www.doctoryourself.com/hoffer_niacin.html

    Life Extension Interview with Doctor Hoffer
    http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2003/jan2003_report_hoffer_01.html

    Please read! Not saying its for everyone, I never did, but it sure is for a lot more than the psychiatrists are currently giving a drop of recognition to!
     
  16. MovedOn

    MovedOn Senior Member

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    talk to your voices
     
  17. HippyChick1960s

    HippyChick1960s Member

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    Oops, made a mistake. Sorry. :)
     
  18. Moon_Beam

    Moon_Beam zaboravljas

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    It could also be a lack of sleep or stress, many people hear voices because of this. Like it has been said other causes need to be considered and ruled out before anyone can diagnose otherwise.
     
  19. mandy420

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    ha..i know,right?!
     
  20. *°GhOsT°LyRiC°*

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    voices could be caused by so many things, but what do they say to you that DO hear voices?
     

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