Someone in a previous thread told me that 5X might not be adequate for visual experience. Should I definitely begin with 7X or more? I would definitely like to have some sort of visual, mind altering experience. I mean that's the whole point of me doing it. I have certain fears that I need to work on. Fears that developed in me when I was a little boy. Fears instilled and conditioned into me by my mother. Up till the age of about 14 or so I was not afraid to defend myself against bullies in school, for example. Then one day my mom punished me for fighting and I was conditioned over night and became somewhat of a coward and did not defend myself as much, despite my physical health getting better and better. It angers me. I don't think my mom realized what she took from me. But yea, I would like to free that part of me up again during a salvia trip. And stop being conditioned from the inside out by various artifacts from my childhood. Has anyone else had a certain fear, or number of fears they wanted emancipation from and then accomplished it through, or in part, due to their salvia experience? Please tell me.
i dont know if salvia will help you there, but you never know i suggest 20X to start. split the cost with 2-3 friends and a gram will make 8-10 good hits
I don't think I ever really had any fears I needed emancipation from UNTIL I had broken through on salvia. I am not so much afraid but rather extremely humbled and respectful. I still think a powerful (bad) trip on shrooms or LSD gives a stronger feeling of accomplishment though.
I never quite understood why people insist on those high extracts. I had TREMENDOUS experiences with 5x! just be a bit patient, your first few (2-3) attempts might not be fruitful yet after that when lady salvia decides you're ready she takes your hand and takes you to another land visuals? well.. salvia provides a much different and brand-new meaning to the concept 'visual'. IF and WHEN ONLY you are sure you're ready, try total darkness and silence. (remember the reverse-tolerance thing and simply) trust her ah and the fear? I have met and been totally nothing. I have traveled backwards in time to billions of years ago when nothing existed. humankind, earth, milkyway, even the cosmos haven't yet existed. I did not exist. non-existence and knowing you are non-existent is the paramount of fears I come to think. it was frightening yet very mind expanding. especially on the concept of existence and reality.
I couldn't agree more with this. For me, it wasn't conquering fear as it was having my entire life taken away and forced to live alone in my own dimension. Then having them all given back and allowing me to rejoice in their existence.
I'd suggest either starting off with 10X or 20X. Make sure you understand what you're getting yourself into before you go ahead with this. Salvia is a hell of a strange drug!
Well they were out of everything except for 40x my first time, but it worked. I've never done it since so I don't know if 5x is good to start out with.
I couldn't agree more with this. Sums the experience up completely. So people have had genuine success in imparting salvia as a tool for self discovery then?! It takes away the soul rather than working with; forget about heightening your sensory perception because that's nabbed too. Coming back's always been the best part of the experience. This substance has given more a bigger sense of disreality than any other drug; if only very temporal. If the first 2 minutes of the salvia experience lasted a good 12 hours, acid style - I think I'd actually go insane. And they sell this shit.
..on that note; i had a much stronger effect on 10x (a few hits) than a did on a whole tube of 20x :S :S
salvia is too strong a psychadelic to be working on any kind of personal changes i would say. LSD is a better drug for that. i have tripped off of two very strong hits of acid for 16ish hours and encountered an incarnation of death(i won't go into details). previous to this experience i had a massive fear of death so much so that i had trouble falling asleep without thinking about death and having minor panic attacks. during the trip i let go of this fear, and afterwards my fear of death was back but it gradually faded over the following months. today i am not afraid of death at all. salvia is too BOOM WHOOSH to be working on anything except extra dimensional exploration and understanding.