KOH instead of NaOH? Extraction help PLEASE!

I ordered some lye throught the mail. I was expecting pure NaOH, but instead I got KOH mixed with NaOH. Is this acceptable for an extraction on P.Torch? Or must it be pure NaOH?

 

From a chemistry point of view I dont know what you are trying to do, but this is a chemical used in the esthers for biodiesel production. If have taken organic chem you would know how to differentiate the esther into pure NaOH. What you are talking about is a transesterification process using heat and alcohols to seperate the chemical esthers. A college organic chem book wil show you how to do this easily. Since I dont know the intended use I dont want the liability of showing you how this is done exactly. Find anyone who has taken organic chem. This can be done with a microwave.

 

I don't see the point in extracting when you can just drink the sacred tea.

It's fantastic...

 

agreed.

 

SWIM was hoping to surpass the hard part of getting it down by making a simple capsule. This is mostly for SWIM's girlfriend, not SWIM. And the extraction tek SWIM is following is the one stickied on the top of the cacti delecti forum. It calls for lye (NaOH) I purchased something which was listed as lye online but turned out to be KOH instead of NaOH. I was wondering if KOH would work because it's still a strong base, or if must it be exactly NaOH.

 

have fun swimming

 

thank you mr helpful

 

Your good buddy. The cactus just needs to be in a strong basic solution. Your not going to be extracting the basifying agent. The mescaline just needs to be converted to a basic state using a highly alkaline solution. Same with the salting. You could use lemon juice and it would change the basic mescaline to a stable salt form. This basic/acid tek can extract any alkaloid from any plant. some of the alkaloids don't even need to be salted such as DMT, 5meoDMT, harmaline and cocaine. you just evaporate the xylene or naptha. You can convert the basic crystals into salt by adding them to acidic water and allowing the water to evaporate.

 

Come to think of it I believe that KOH is used to extract cocaine from coca.

 

Even better. KOH is used to extract LSA from ergot

http://www.egodeath.com/lsdsynth.htm

LSD-25 Synthesis from "Psychedelic Guide to the Preparation of the Eucharist"

Preparatory arrangements

Starting material may be any lysergic acid derivative, from ergot on rye grain or from culture, or morning glory seeds or from synthetic sources. Preparation #1 uses any amide, or lysergic acid as starting material. Preparations #2 and #3 must start with lysergic acid only, prepared from the amides as follows:

10 g of any lysergic acid amide from various natural sources dissolved in 200 ml of methanolic KOH solution and the methanol removed immediately in vacuo. The residue is treated with 200 ml of an 8% aqueous solution of KOH and the mixture heated on a steam bath for one hour. A stream of nitrogen gas is passed through the flask during heating and the evolved NH3 gas may be titrated is HCl to follow the reaction. The alkaline solution is made neutral to congo red with tartaric acid, filtered, cleaned by extraction with ether, the aqueous solution filtered and evaporated. Digest with MeOH to remove some of the coloured material from the crystals of lysergic acid. Arrange the lighting in the lab similarly to that of a dark room. Use photographic red and yellow safety lights, as lysergic acid derivatives are decomposed when light is present. Rubber gloves must be worn due to the highly poisonous nature of ergot alkaloids. A hair drier, or, better, a flash evaporator, is necessary to speed up steps where evaporation is necessary.