eastern promise - visualisations, with no prior knowledge?

this is my first post on these forums, ive actually came here today specifically to make a post in an attempt to better understand my last two LSD trips.

Ive probably tripped 20 or more times, most of them with a friend or group of friends. I believe LSD as a substance has changed my life. The timeless realm, the feeling of connectivity, visuals, the bending of reality, beautiful colours, patterns....

One particular experience was sneaking outside into a friends back garden to play on his younger sisters swing, giggling like I was 5 again, I'm 24! The most explainable single event up until this week occured that night, after playing on the swing I lay in the long uncut grass of his overgrown garden, I felt like I was part of the world. I was looking at trees and grass sprouting from earth. The tree reminded me of a human nerve. Maybe plants are the earths nerves? its receptors? maybe everything was? maybe I was too? maybe we are all the same? BUT...I can jump, i leave the earth, not always connected?... then again maybe thats why gravity always brings me back? i'm a de-tachable nerve? the earth feels through me? through the trees? through us all? we are all the same? part of one? i had a feeling i was onto something. this strongest singular experience touched me... i felt i was close to secrets. i decided that next time i would trip alone. a search for enlightenment i thought.

lets move forward 6 months, to 2 saturdays ago. I dropped a single, smallish white tab of LSD that beared a black playboy bunny logo. my girlfriend was out, i was home alone... i settled on the sofa with a can of beer and my earphones. i began listening to music iTunes on random and Moby - lift me up started to play..... i forgot about instant messaging conversations for a minute and closed my eyes... the trip was pulling me in... i could feel myself physically being sucked in... the closed eye visuals began... strong.... rune like rectangles, thousands of them.... each depicting a white symbol?... each had a white border? could possibly be green in colour? but changing like the colour you see when you look at a lightbulb. floating up, interwining with each other, like smoke rising... or ripped up paer in the wind... only not paper... runes?... i wasnt watching them though, i was moving with them... upward.... but then they dissapeared.

no visuals, it was all blackness.... but I felt something from my shoulder blades... i could feel movement... sprouting....arms?..... growing from my back??? what the fuck?... at first I depicted the feeling as like a bollywood dance, when two people stand directly behind each other extening their arms to look like they have four. but no... these were my arms... i could move them... i did... i made them dance.... and could move my own arms at the same time.. i got a shock.... have i got four arms? What??????

the shock startled me into stopping this particular visualistaion and i felt the arms shatter into a thousand pieces.... into the runes i had previously been watching dance skywards... the shattered arms, now runes, flew over the top of my head... over my head and into my eyes... the visuals had started again and it was then i noticed something.. whilst lost in the trance i had moved position without even knowing. i opened my eyes.... i was sitting in the lotus position, crossed legs, hands open as if holding something. i was quite startled. i had not done this on purpose.

the following day i basked in the afterglow. feeling good. noticing more about nature than usual. beautiful skies, trees, birds chirping. i was so unsure about what i'd experienced. i'm a western man, from england... i have no knowledge of foreign religions. i don't believe in god? i thought the lotus position was how monks prayed. i didnt assosciate this previously with four arms? on monday morning back at work i googled "man with four arms", "lotus position", and a mixture of other terms... and i found something which left me quite startled.

for anyone who has experienced deja vu. the moment realisation sinks in, the sick feeling... ive been here before.... ive said that or done that before? the effects were identical. this is what i read....

http://www.wildmind.org/mantras/figures/avalokitesvara

avalokiesvara has four arms... and he sits in the lotus position.

as i read further i reached the picture of the prayer wheel, it is almost identical, maybe slightly rounder than the runes i pictured. i had never heard of or saw a prayer wheel in the past.....

he is related to enlightenment.

and then the scariest part.... the part where my arse twitched.....
"At one time, having worked tirelessly for the welfare of beings, Avalokiteshvara, at Amitabha’s prompting, looked back and saw that there were still uncountable beings suffering in samsara. At that point he became discourage, fainted, and shattered into a thousand pieces".

 

part II...... Saturday just gone....

The trip went relatively the same way. This time I listened to Oasis's new album - Dig up your soul. Three songs (Get off your) High horse lady, To be where there's life and soldier on really got the visuals racing. The same runes..... the same dancing... only this time instead of going upwards the runes moved forward... like they were racing away from me... i was flying amongst them.... my view was as if i was one of them flying amongst a pack.... up and over sand dunes.... up and over.... astonishingly fast.

bearing in mind I went into this trip trying to think of Bhuddism, Tibet, Thailand, China etc. This trip hosted the same feeling... the same presence, if you like... but It was on sand... in a desert? I could see a pyramid in the distance. The pyramid looked like my destination... It was most definately Egypt... I wanted bhuddism... and four arms... not sand and pyramids...

I tired to focus on the runes ahead of me... I wanted to see what was depicted on them.... I could make out the symbol, it was a cross with an eclipse top. I knew the symbol... It was egyptian... but I didnt know its name (I now know its an "ankh").
In a similair vein of form, the visualisations calmed and i started trying to re-enact what I had experienced the week before.... I adopted the lotus position this time i interlinked my fingers.... I tried to imagine growing arms from my back.... willing them to sprout...... i took a deep breath in and as i breathed out.... my fingers began to feel frail.... (im a skinny guy) but like... they felt skeletal? i took a deeper breath in.... and then a massive breath out.... my whole body felt like an empty shell... a skeleton... it felt like id expelled my soul.... i was dead, i tilted my head back... left my mouth open ajaw to allow the last gas of life to leave me....... and bang.... i was inside the visuals again.... i began to chase my soul.... over the dunes.... towards the pyramid..... again i cant stress enough, although in a different setting it was like i was within the same company..... the presence id presumed bhuddist was now in egypt? i canm only compare it to being abroad with your friends or partner? a different place... the same person?

as the runes raced... the visuals progressed and i began to see lotus flowers...
in front of the pyramid 5,6,7 glowing white, pink rimmed lotus flowers flashed in front of my sandy vision... pyramids? lotus flowers? what?????? bhuddism? egypt? i dont understand.

anyway... back to work on monday and ive researched further and again was shocked at unearthing things. the first was that the muslims also have a four armed dark goddess named kali. kali is a symbol of death.

i looked into other religions and hindus also have a four armed god named vishnu who is the destroyer and the creator of all? Four armed gods seem to be a common theme accross different religions?

The ankh is a symbol which can unlock death? WOWZA?!?

The lotus flower is also a symbol used throughout egyptian history and religion, it is a known sign of creation and rebirth.... I thought the lotus was a bhuddist symbol alone and had no idea when I first depicted the flower in the Egyptian journey visions?
http://www.kingtutshop.com/freeinfo/Lotus-Flower.htm

death, creation, death, creation? accross a multitude of religions?

it really has me pondering. i dont know how i saw these things? why they are such a big part of different religions accross the globe? opposite sides of the world? four arms, runes, ankhs, lotus's, death, creation? could it be that all religions? stem from ancient cosmonauts? that these states brought on by LSD have common images? which formed the basis of all religion?

I have heard stories that in salvia a lot of people talk about a female presence? the green goddess? many people have spoke to her? heard her voice? i dont know.

id love to here peoples opinions on my experiences of late. i can neither make head nor tail of them. but i am soooo intrigued?

 

Well, all I can say is... since the universe neither has a beginning or an end... I can safely say that I've lived this very life before. Same with living your life or TOm Cruise's life. This being said, I believe deja vu is a flashback from a previous life. Same goes for dreams.

Also, we are all beings of the universe, we all have the same potential for reasoning inside us. Sure we come up with different stuff but in the end, they are architypes. Hope I helped.

 

Well, having similarity between the east and the middle east is understandable. They are basically next to eachother.

but if you want to see what psychedelic drugs teach people, the native americans and native south americans are the ones you wanna look at - they had access to shrooms, mescaline, and DMT.

If theres something basic to humans, id say these cultures would have expressed it the most.

If you are interested in the way egyptian and hindu relate, you should perhaps check out the ancient religions of the land between egypt and india - check out pre-islamic religions

 

B[---------------------- ]
R[---------------------- ]
A[ Brahma - The Creator ]
H[ Vishnu - The Preserver ]
M[ Shiva - The Destroyer ]
A[----------------------- ]
N[----------------------- ]

 

I can relate.

The first time I tripped, I saw the Hindu God Ganesha manifesting in all of the trees outside. He was made of eyeballs and he was all pervasive and seeing. I had never known anything about Hindu or eastern religions in general, yet this is one of the things I saw.

Later on, I researched, and turns out Ganesha is the god of removing obstacles. Pretty neat that I saw that particular manifestation on acid.

 

cool stuff in here. for me, it's mostly that i'll trip and experience certain imagery regarding eternal existence and then i will read some tenets of eastern religions and it seems like they describe my trip exactly and that there is an indigenous and pure religion within us that anyone can access by ego dissolution; and in most cases the realizations are very similar. I'm sure I've experienced interactions similar to the OP's but didn't cross reference those particulars

 

The only question then becomes, how did you settle on the example of Tom Cruise?

 

One morning the sri yantra assembled in my third eye
I had never seen it before
and it assembled itself in 3D
not 2D

took me a year until I learned of the sri yantra
and learned about sahasrara

it all started coming together...


touch samadhi.

 

about essentially getting blanked out, them coming to in the lotus position. The same thing happened to me, only it was the kundalini 'breaking barriers' pose that I came to in. I didn't discover this till weeks after. I didn't know anything about kundalini at the time.

My understanding is. Your body will at times intersect various energies, for whatever reason. Upon your body plugging into a certain energy, it will instinctually position itself to allow the energy to pass.

 

>.> first celebrity that popped in my head, I like to think I was tom cruise in Top Gun in one of my previous lifes.