Pharmahuasca - Breakthroughs or Entities?

Has anybody had a breakthrough experience or seen entities when taking DMT orally? I got to try pharmahuasca for the second time recently - 5g Syrian Rue tea with 100 mg of DMT, 45 minutes later 300 mg DMT - HUGE dose for me. I was lying down and started having what I thought was a full breakthrough and started seeing entities and visuals, but then I opened my eyes and they were inside everything. I got up and started interacting with them through the objects in my house but I don't remember having any self awareness until I came down. I think I may have been walking around during ego death. Very strange. Anyone have similar experiences?

 

yes, but I don't get up and move around...I just usually lie there and fall into another dimension...

amazing.. I love pharmahuasca.

 

i need some pharmahuasca. i took ayahuasca twice now and ended up puking way too soon. i didnt try to puke, it just came up, and it didn't feel like i could of held it in at all, too much liquid!

 

Ya, there is no need to throw up with pharmahuasca, especially if you smoke cannabis. The weirdest thing about interacting with the things was the intense synchronicity. I wasn't self aware but I was still thinking how amazing everything was. Everything I did felt fully intentional and completely unintentional at the same time. It was crazy! I just went around moving and poking things and flipping them upside down. I was overwhelmed by how amazing it was to accidentally do things on purpose.

 

yea for me all those entities and weird creatures are different aspects of my spirit and my ancestors. when you can take what they tell you and apply those things to yer life as silly as they seem sometimes you'll be amazed at what starts happening to you.

 

thats effing beautiful mate
What ancestry are ya from?
ive been afraid to try DMT i didnt think i was ready yet
but about 6 months ago I decided I was...

 

how long was the trip with 400mg dmt?

 

the duration depends on the amount of mao inhibition.
the spice only increases intensity, not length.

400mg is a LOT

I have read reports of people smoking high doses of spice (250mg ish)
and turning blue and stopping breathing...

be careful.

 

the question remains

 

Well, I wasn't planning on writing a trip report at the time so I didn't pay very close attention to the clock, but from what I remember it was only around an hour of actual tripping. The first hour or so after dosing there was only the slightly buzzed, kind of heavy feeling of the rue tea. Oh, and at 45 minutes I swigged another gram or two of the tea with the 300 mgs. About 20 minutes after I took the 300 it built up slowly for maybe 30 minutes. I was like, finally! And then quickly forgot I had waited at all. During those 30 minutes or so I was lying on my back, naked, in the dark, on the floor, in my living room, listening to some very mellow new age music I had never heard before. That build up phase was extremely erotic, it got me completely aroused, and I don't just mean I got a hard on. My entire body was turned on and there were waves of ecstasy rolling over and through me as if my entire being was a stiff penis being stroked by invisible forces. Then the closed eye visuals became intensely vivid and they we beautiful and fractal but also very chaotic and not apparently meaningful to me. I was breathing deep slow circular breaths and saying stuff like whoa! oh my god! holy shit! etc. That went on for about five minutes (so I guess I was around 35 minutes into the trip) then I started getting overwhelmed by astonishment. Not that I minded since it was the most blissful ecstasy I have ever experienced. I opened my eyes and everything looked the same as with my eyes closed (the room was almost pitch black) and I was rolling around and smiling like crazy and feeling better than I ever had before. Then I started laughing, deep warm belly laughs, but it kept building as I became more and more amazed. Soon I was laughing hysterically like a raving lunatic. Then (about 45 minutes in) my perception of myself just sort of merged with my perception of my house and then immediately with the universe. It wasn't like an ego death on salvia or ketamine (I’ve never had acid or had an ego death on shrooms) cause I was still having thoughts, or rather it was like my perceptions were my thoughts and they were creating and transforming themselves by recognizing themselves in each other or something. At about 55 minutes in I got up, drawn to the moonlight in my kitchen, still laughing like a mad scientist, and reality was the interactions of my thoughts and feelings. It was like there was no difference between me and everything else, everything was perception, everything was alive, and everything was not just possessed by spirit beings, we were the beings, like thoughts and feelings were visible creatures and we were all one even though we were also individuals. Sooooooo then I basically thrashed everything in my living room and kitchen like the tasmanian devil. Tables and chairs were flipped and kicked and everything on my counter was whipped all over the room, glasses, plates and even a ceramic teapot were thrown and knocked around with seemingly no care about anything. With a lot of the stuff, I picked it up it held close to my face, squeezed real hard, and shook it like a paint mixer. This is where everything that happened was both accidental and intentional. The creatures saturated everything and they jumped around and switched places and flung and kicked each other kind of like I was doing with my house. But they were transforming and combining and splitting and turning into each other too. They looked like neon tubing stick figures with bulgy jello ball joints. Some didn’t look like stick figures because they had wireframe neon tubing torsos. But it wasn’t really like neon tubing. It was like electric liquid crystal metal plasma stuff. Most were human shaped but many were mostly spherical or really complex and exotic. Some of them had spiral tubing wizard hats but it was part of their body. Their movements were like resonating vibrations that built up energy until they snapped like fingers and jumped and morphed. Once I was the only thing left standing I felt exhausted. I went and laid down in the living room and I think I had a good deep sleep for five or ten minutes. So then (maybe an hour and ten minutes in) I woke up and remembered everything like it was dream and I was like naaawwww that didn't just happen I was dreaming, but I had a nervous sinking feeling in my stomach and thought hey maybe that did happen. So I got up and looked around and my heart dropped into my stomach and I was thinking oh my god, I actually just destroyed my house, I just ruined all my stuff! What's wrong with me! How could I be so stupid! It really looked bad; I should have taken a picture. I dropped to my knees and felt like I was going to throw up. So I ran to the toilet and then I talked myself down inside my head. I was like no man it's ok you're just feeling nauseous cause you're starting to have a bad trip, none of that stuff matters anyways, you can buy new stuff and even if you can't afford it it's just stuff, you won't care about having stuff when you die, and you'll only feel bad if you're attached to it and think you need it to be happy. Then I started feeling better. I was right at the verge of puking but it all went back down. Then (an hour and 15 minutes into the trip which was 2 hours and 20 minutes since the first dose) I went back into my kitchen, and I didn't feel like I was tripping at all, maybe because I just dumped so much adrenalin or something, and I looked at all the wreckage. It seemed weird like everything was specifically placed in a certain way, like there was meaning in the random chaos. I started picking stuff up and in a few minutes I realized absolutely nothing was damaged or broken, not even scratched! I was the most amazed by the teapot I chucked at my window (hard) which hit the window frame, then the glass, and somehow balanced upside down and stayed on the windowsill. The cover for the teapot was on the other side of the room. I was like wow! What’s the significance of all this? I felt good and mellow then and pretty much back to normal so I smoked some more buds and tried to figure it out until I fell asleep. Oh ya, after I dosed I was smoking weed on and off until I started feeling the DMT. I'm still not really sure why I did all that, but I have a couple guesses. The rational part of me says I just took way too much DMT and had a psychotic episode. But part of me says that maybe my subconscious or superconscious or something was being woken up through the experience and it was trying to communicate with me in a way that would help me learn to maintain a higher state of consciousness. Or maybe it was both.

 

fantastic description.

 

how does one make the syrian rue tea?

 

It's vile....
just put your ground rue in a pot with some water, boil it down for about half an hour until it's a drinkable amount.

I've had better luck just eating ground rue.

Remember the MAOI DIET!

 

thanks stalk!

 

hey btw the report sounds simply amazing. especially the stuff not breaking, thats crazy. weird stuff has been happening to people lately, and think its just gonna keep happening more and more and more.

 

This is a very strange thread indeed. Since DMT occurs naturally in everyone's body there has been research done on the body effects. In our our brains this is released in conjunction with death and/or near death. Scientists have proposed that this accounts for the near death experience that some humans have reported. While the drugs itself is very close to the active ingredient in shrooms, its effect is very different on the brain. Seems to me a wierd trip to have at best.

From looking at the pharmacology of the drug though I would take a pharmaceutical MAOI with a low dose of whatever plant you are using to synthesize the tea. This would seem from the chemistry of it all to give one a prolonged trip with a fair amount of intensity. Just dont eat turkey when you do it. Tryptophan would have a very bad effect.

 

LOL! I keep wondering how different it would have been with someone else there.

 

I have been considering making a one-capsule pharmahuasca with some DMT that for some reason refuses to form attractive crystals and combining with tranylcypromine and phenergan.

Thoughts?

 

sounds like a worthy trip

but i would have thought it would last a lot longer with 400mg - thats heaps!

 

Ya, it was a lot, but I really wanted to experience the same intensity as smoking it to see if I could have a breakthrough that lasted more than ten minutes. I guess it really wasn't much longer, but it was crazier. When I smoke it it's too fast to even open my eyes. I've done it but it gives me a headache. When I do pharmahuasca again I'll go in with the intention to hold still. I wonder if it was just the harmine and harmaline wearing off that ended my trip. I'm kind of glad I stopped when I did although I don't think I would have broken anything if I kept going. It was, after all, pure blss. I like the harmaloids cause they're a little safer than pharmaceutical maoi's, but should it really be wearing off so fast? I think I would need someone there to coach me into taking more at intervals cause that stuff really is vile. Or maybe I should extract that too so since this was really only half pharmahuasca.