Want to talk about terrorist?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gardener, Oct 7, 2008.

  1. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Name calling? I don't think I've ever resorted to that. Like most of the McCain campaign and republican redirection you love to stir up emotion, without concern about the repercussions.

    I admitted to the statement I made. And it should be viewed in context, not hyped to incite riot.
     
  2. cadcruzer

    cadcruzer Sailing the 8 seas

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    Of course not, but then again we all know how your memory works/or doesn't in this case.

    You're still a Pussy. And a liar.
     
  3. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    I think the argument was I said something about Obama I didn't. I said something about the way blacks have been used by the Bush administration.

    I admit I said what I did about Powell, and Rice. And it should be taken in context not warped to meet your political objectives.
     
  4. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Poster puts Zion on his sig, that's like the most racist group out there, that thinks other than the jews everyone else are just animals with no souls. Yeah, a riot lol, dude if people riot it'll probably be because they can't pay their bills or feed their children, both canidates will do nothing for us in the next four years, this is hover all over again.


    Get with the program
     
  6. maryjohn

    maryjohn Senior Member

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    well, i don't see how arguing with you makes him a pussy. That's silly. How do you know he can't kick your ass? What would that prove anyway? The beauty of our country is that pussies have their say.

    I'm all for terrorism when it is appropriate as a tactic. Like war. If the war is serious, then punishing the citizens of the country against which you have declared war is what happens when you want to win. You know, like Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Dresden, the firebombing of Tokyo, the London Blitz, etc... What do you think that was? Loving them with bombs? it's a tactic, not a belief system. The word "terrorist" is an empty shell of a word that allows you to avoid naming your enemy. So in a way, calling someone a terrorist shows you are too cowardly to come out in opposition to their position or interests. Which makes a coward by definition.

    Inciting violence against your political opponents to try to terrorize people into voting a certain way or to whip up a mob into a bloodthirsty frenzy? Well, that ain't right. It's not honorable. You gotta give McCain credit for realizing how disgusting his supporters are and taking their booing like a man. Boy, did that guy ever get screwed by his own people. Sad really.

    here's how I see it: Palin is not running for 2008. She has written it off, and she is hoping for 2012. Good luck to McCain trying to reign that one in.
     
  7. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Violence is never right.
     
  8. maryjohn

    maryjohn Senior Member

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    Violence is never RIGHT, but when you commit to war, you are committed to doing unto to others before they do it unto you. We love to pretend we never engage in terrorism, but that is our history. Sherman's march to the sea. Dresden. Hiroshima. Shock an Awe. The list goes as far back as one cares to look, and unfortunately will stretch far into the future.

    It's unfortunate, but that is how survival sometimes has to go. Seeing the world in black and white extremes of good and evil may be easy, but it doesn't reflect reality. There is our side, and their side. You do what it takes to be the winning side, because the losers die. There is no place for romanticism in war.

    That is why you avoid war at all costs until it is the only option left.
     
  9. Spaced06

    Spaced06 Member

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    These Repubñlicans sure are funny. I hope that when Palin refers to the U.S. of A as "the greatest source of good in this world" she's trying to joke. That'a one of the most ignorant commentaries I've read in a LONG time.
     
  10. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    As an individual I would never personally committ to war. If no one committed to war, there could never be wars.

    In nature most of what survives, survives by avoiding the conflict engaged by others. They wait and see who kills the other then they learn to coexist.
     
  11. maryjohn

    maryjohn Senior Member

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    Jesus, you'll never find me in a war, either!

    I didn't mean to sound like a fan of carnage. I just don't see a difference between killing with big machines and killing with little bombs. I will run, run, run from a fight, but if I am truly cornered, I'll fight.
     
  12. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    There is no difference, between big machines, or government killings of individuals for crimes or little bombs. The lives lost are still those of individuals who had they lived may have contributed to the overall good of the world.

    I find it hard to believe that those that oppose abortion can condone capital punishment. Death is death. I am not god, I do not see myself as god so therefore any death I take part in is a murder. whether it be under the guise of a righteous war, or as a punishment for a crime. My role is not to pass judgement or take a life. My role is try to live my life in the most productive way I can without doing harming to any other life forms.
     
  13. maryjohn

    maryjohn Senior Member

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    Not even being god would give you the right. just the power.

    Not that you would exist.
     

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