Spp & Ndp.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Aristartle, Oct 12, 2008.

  1. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    So, I got an e-mail back from Jack Layton (Leader of the NDP) today.

    Well, I'm a little encouraged. I mean, even during a federal Election in less than 48 Hours over the Thanksgiving holiday weekend, and someone took the time to e-mail me back this morning.

    What a pleasant surprise.

    :)
     
  2. Hiptastic

    Hiptastic Unhedged

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    That is pretty cool.

    But I'm sorry to say I don't really take the NDP seriously. They are a permanent opposition party promoting old school left wing economics which they have no need to update since they have no chance of getting elected. Of course they oppose SPP, they oppose free trade and everything that has anything to do with it.
     
  3. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Well it's heartening that Canadians seem to be aware of the SPP existence, and it's importance here in the States voters are unaware mostly, and candidates for our presidency are never ask about it.
     
  4. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    *shrugs* They have a chance at getting elected just as much as the next party. I mean, hey. Where would healthcare be without the NDP? And besides they do update their platform.

    Don't be such a Debbie Downer, Hip. :rolleyes:
     
  5. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    What Hiptastic believes free trade to be is not free trade at all. It's heavily managed and regulated trade designed to erode sovereignty and establish international laws and regulations. That is the real purpose behind so-called "free trade."
     
  6. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    Arguably it isn't free trade, and yeah it is an entrenched and intricate system, but there are many aspects of trade that remain unregulated and unchecked that do pose a threat to exploiting goods and people all throughout the linear system of industry and in turn the way that trade works at a global scale it creates an externalized cost and a deflated cost for what things are worth.

    It purposefully puts items into a bubble, moves it from one bubble to the next.

    But I wouldn't say that means the entire trade networks are highly regulated whatsoever. They're just well managed and neatly organized to benefit the rich.
     
  7. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Here is what you should have asked Layton...

    Mr. Layton,

    While you and your party have taken an open stance against the SPP agenda, you have on record expressed support for the NAFTA corridor extending from the US into Manitoba, and ending in the town of Churchill. Several members of your party, such as NDP MP Peter Julian, have outright denied plans for this superhighway, despite the fact that Manitoba NDP Premier Gary Doer, in his government's throne speech on November 20, 2007, endorsed the so-called "Mid Continental Corridor" NAFTA superhighway.

    Why should we believe, Mr. Layton, that you serve to do anything more than advertise opposition to the SPP agenda, as a way to deceive those who are truly against this by creating a false opposition?
     
  8. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    Well, you're free to write what you want to him as I wrote what I wanted.

    Good question.
     
  9. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    So who do you think will win? Looks like Dion.
     
  10. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    Nobody will win a majority - is my prediction. I think the Conservatives will win another minority government and it's possible that Harper will be asked to step down as leader of the Conservative Party - but he could be waiting to find out if Dion will step down.

    Depends. It is possible that Harper could still win a majority, so in the back of my mind I'm just dreading that situation like a mammogram screening.

    I predict that the NDP will possibly pick up 35 seats, and at most 40 seats. A significant number. I am hoping that the Green Party will at least take 2 seats this election. The deciding factor will be Ontario this election. It's hard to see the numbers clearly and you never really know until voting day who is going to win when it's so close like this.

    I'll be watching and posting frantically Tuesday, just you watch. I have class until 9:30pm though. :(
     
  11. The_Moroccan_Raccoon

    The_Moroccan_Raccoon Senior Member

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    I still think Dion could win a minority government. I do support the NDP, and they're definitely the best option, but I think it would be better if the Liberals took some of their seats this election. If that's what it takes to stop the Conservatives....just the thought of a majority Harper government is terrifying.

    The polls aren't very clear...we'll see what happens tomorrow.
     
  12. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    *crosses fingers, holds breath, etc.*
     
  13. Nikalaus

    Nikalaus Member

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    GOOD!!
     
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