December 21,2012=The end???Please share your opinions

stalk · Oct 14, 2008

no, but personally I think that guy was just in tune with the rhythms of nature and couldn't really see the future...these patterns are just obvious. You can apply them to almost anything.

*°GhOsT°LyRiC°* · Oct 14, 2008

yeah, i know, it reminds me of the bible.

Ocean Bionic · Oct 14, 2008

Alex Grey predicted 9/11 in 1989 when he painted this!!! aaaag!

stalk · Oct 14, 2008

that painting is so huge...

it's disturbing.

Ocean Bionic · Oct 14, 2008

disturbing?

which half?

stalk · Oct 14, 2008

Both halves..

Ocean Bionic · Oct 14, 2008

yeah, well I can see how breasts on trees squiring milk can be a little disturbing.
but that wont stop me from wishing that it will one day be this way.

*°GhOsT°LyRiC°* · Oct 14, 2008

wicked painting, thats crazy.

420UFO · Oct 14, 2008

The Mushroom Man said:

My theory is that 2012 is the year the mayas ran out of room on their rock. That or they decided "lets not plan TOO far in advance, when we get to 2012, we can make another calendar." the Sports Illustrated calendar on my wall ends december 31, 2008, does that mean it is the end of the world?

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why would they choose such an auspicious date of such numerical significance?

killuminati · Oct 14, 2008

420UFO said:

why would they choose such an auspicious date of such numerical significance?
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well, that date is based on our conception of time.

Mayan years were different than ours

however, your point still stands. in Mayan time, the date is something like 13.0.0.0.0. or some shit. I wish I could find a source.

but some say that it'll happen earlier than that, I heard if you review Sumerian tablets, the time of this turns out to be in 2011ish.

stalk · Oct 14, 2008

killuminati said:

well, that date is based on our conception of time.

Mayan years were different than ours

however, your point still stands. in Mayan time, the date is something like 13.0.0.0.0. or some shit. I wish I could find a source.

but some say that it'll happen earlier than that, I heard if you review Sumerian tablets, the time of this turns out to be in 2011ish.
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Nah man
they synched their calendars up with the cosmos.

2012 is our date. they had their own name or number for the same time.

snake_grass · Oct 14, 2008

Nikalaus said:

I dont like to share large large shares of my personal story online in forums because for the most part this information is subjective and can be questioned and rejected by the average person in many ways. But for the record, I have been aware of an impending "something" since my teenage years. I have been on the road and questing to find out the blessed sweet quote unquote truth about the universe since then and just how the fuck I am supposed to fit into the picture of what is to come.

I have been posting some great documentaries and books that have come my way that have enlightned me to the "game" that is taking place on this earth. For those who are unfamiliar with these posts. I'll try my best TO summarize everything I have learnt about "they" "2012" and what the average person must do.

First of all "they".

I don't know why we call them "they". Its pathetic. The average person is no where near ready to accept this ... but we do have a network of secret societies runnign this planet. There is very VERY easily tell tale statistics that exist to easily confirm this. The main tool of control they have created is CREDIT. And 95% of the world's whealth is controlled by 5% of the population. and allthough i can't find the paragraph in my sociology text book where i originally saw this you can visit this site too see how the worlds distribution of whealth is highly unequal.

http://www.globalissues.org/article/26/poverty-facts-and-stats

In a world where GOOD and moral people would be in charge would so many problems exist?

NO.

So here is just ONE tell talk sign i could write my entire post on this and probably a book on my research into the Illumaniy, masons, bilderberg, comitee of 300, etc etc etc they are all one and the same. They are network of that is dedicated to one thing. SLAVERY. They have been apparently doing so since the dawn of humanity.

They operate smoothly and efficiently and strike without mercy. They know how humans work better then humans realize. They know the abolsute truth and what our souls thirst. They use every weapon then can to stimulate us from the inside out. Colors, geometry, numerology, sound frequencies, lights. They KNOW exactly how we tick.

Oh and speaking of geometry i'll add another lil FYI peice of info for those who havent done howework. Anybody who has taken Criminolgy/Sociology knows that the city of Washignton DC has the highest rate of murder per capita in the U.S. .... AHH, but does the average Joe know that the city of Washignton D.C.'s main street arteries form a perfect geometrical pentagram? ... Hmmm... interesting.

When you have been in studying this game as long as i have you come to realize there is no such thing as coincidence in this universe.

Now, as I was saying they know how we tick. Their first weapon is to create doubt. By making a man second guess himself, this creates a sense of confusion within. Confusion leads to anger, denial, fear. in these states a man WANTS a quick uncalculated solution and return to a state of peace. it's a primordial universal mechanism. No one gives a poop how... they just want a band aid and fix the problem. Hence how they work. Ordo Ab Chao. Latin for Order out of Chaos. They create a Chaos, but when they do they already have the solution conviniently planned in the form of sacrificing more of our freedom. Again they have been doing this since the dawn of humanity.

Their second greatest weapon is creating the false sense of difference in humans. a.k.a Divide and Conquer. Look around you. The universe you live in is beautiful elegant everything has natural order and flow. the ebb and flow of tides, sun rise sun sets, moon cycles, trees grow, seasons, everything around you in nature just co-exists in a peaceful EFFORTLESS balance. Now along comes human, hell bent on a preproggramed mission to completly destroy the balance as it were. or so it seems. the problem is that they have created false battle lines over time so that we FEAR one another. and simply can't co-exist together in the natural order and balance of things.

.... sighs.

Now it with even a deeper sense of bitter-sweet emotions I come to the question at hand.

2012.

I'm not sure if 2012 is numerogically in check. But December 21st is a Key brotherhood date. 21+12=33. If you do some reading on occult numerology you will see they like this number ALOT for some reason. So it would not suprise me at all if we can expect some kind of radical social transition of some sort on this day.

I have done a fair share of home work on this topic and I have come to conclude a few things. Anybody in a position of public credibility that has tried to denounce these people has been silenced. Think JFK, John Lennon, MLK Jr.

Now, the reason why i'm saying this is that there is ALOT of websites out there clamming they have the truth about what's going on with 2012. But you gotta remember the basics, ORDO AB CHAO. These sites may all have the pre-enginnered solutions to a prefabricated chaos. Thesis + Antithesis = SYNTHESIS.

The only article I have read in all my research that appears to have all the tell tale signs of REAL truth. Is project BLUE BEAM. the reason being is that the Author was ELIMINATED. As mentionned above this is consistent with thier mission.

the following article on Blue Beam not only accuratly paints a picture of all the crazy shit happening in the world right now, such as indigo children and so forth, it also might explain the apparent "4thdimelsional" and other "new age" changes goin on in your life.

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/projectbluebeam25jul05.shtml

So bottom, line I urge you to strongly to question your "higher power" and how you think your higher powwer works on you, and WHY (for the love everything holy) you're maybe just "waking up" and becoming "spiritual" in these times of turmoil. Make sure if you are "waking up" you are on the right side of the gun, make sure your being woken up by God. Not Blue Beam and the brotherhood. Make sure you are not falling in the biggest and best universal plan of evil ever orchestrated on earth. I almost fell into the trap too. I did serve in the army for a brief period. I felt as though it was my mission from "God" to go save lives in the army. I felt it on every level of my being. When I got there is I was disgusted to see the disregard for human life. Boys will be boys and all the army wants is for you to be happy blowing shit up.

Now what are we all supposed to do? I have read alot of sites out there saying we can expect great spiritual changes and mutations and some of us will fly and warp and all these fantistic things so that we will be able to save ourselves. LOL!!! Don't count on it. I think this is all a part of the lies of the new age New world order's plan Under Blue Beam.

All you can do is gather into groups of like minded individuals (The Prophecised Elect) and plan for self suffciency. To the best of your abilities As for the Chaos. Pfft just have a beer and watch it burn. If you are aware of all these things it's not so chaotic you understand deep down the human race has lost touch with the natural order and balance of things and the upcoming war is to simply bring us back to this natural order. Free of Slavery, Tyranny, Oppression, Money, War, and all this enginnereed madness. These Evil men on top thier pyramids have got to fall. And the upcoming impending madness is simply to rid the world of them.

Peace be with you all in these crazy times.

~Nika~
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super star

Edit:if you catch my drift

killuminati · Oct 14, 2008

stalk said:

Nah man
they synched their calendars up with the cosmos.

2012 is our date. they had their own name or number for the same time.
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really? I could've sworn I read that somewhere, I'm probably mixing something up though.

how is it that our tracking of time happens to be what it is at that time? that's why I doubt the 12/21 part, I think that's something fabricated on our behalf. but the 2012, I believe.

Funkateer · Oct 14, 2008

MaryJBlaze said:

maybe it'll be the year people learn to use the search button
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LOL

fucking

420UFO · Oct 14, 2008

killuminati said:

well, that date is based on our conception of time.

Mayan years were different than ours

however, your point still stands. in Mayan time, the date is something like 13.0.0.0.0. or some shit. I wish I could find a source.

but some say that it'll happen earlier than that, I heard if you review Sumerian tablets, the time of this turns out to be in 2011ish.
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so basically its happening soon... the predicition may not be completely accurate, but it gives an idea.

stalk · Oct 14, 2008

killuminati said:

really? I could've sworn I read that somewhere, I'm probably mixing something up though.

how is it that our tracking of time happens to be what it is at that time? that's why I doubt the 12/21 part, I think that's something fabricated on our behalf. but the 2012, I believe.
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see...2012 is just our time stamp.
they would not have referred to 2012 as 2012...they would refer to it as the time when all their calenders harmonize and begin again.

all this is synchronized with the galaxy, solar system, moon, everything.

the archeologists have interpreted this synchronization to occur on this date and time in 2012...

People don't realize this. The maya weren't bullshitting...they were excellent keepers of time.

They aren't predicting the end of the world at all...people are just stupid as hell.

Spaced06 · Oct 14, 2008

stalk said:

They aren't predicting the end of the world at all...people are just stupid as hell.
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All I wanted to say about this thread is condensed in that quote. Well, not all, but most. It's not the ned of the world, it's the end of a cycle, nothing's gonna blow up, and no monsters are comming to kill us. The change is so much more subtle than that, most of us can't possibly imagine.

killuminati · Oct 15, 2008

I'm sure it won't be the end. Earth is probably going have a release period, I have a feeling we'll be seeing more Earthquakes and Volcanoes. in half a decade, our planet should supposedly exist in the 4th/5th dimension...

Funkateer · Oct 15, 2008

killuminati said:

I'm sure it won't be the end. Earth is probably going have a release period, I have a feeling we'll be seeing more Earthquakes and Volcanoes. in half a decade, our planet should supposedly exist in the 4th/5th dimension...
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Do you have a source for the 4th/5th dimension theory I would love to read it?

drew5147 · Oct 15, 2008

Funkateer said:

Do you have a source for the 4th/5th dimension theory I would love to read it?
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There are seven densities for existence. Some may be confused or curious regarding the hierarchy and make up of the densities, and who's who, and where, and why. So, here's the "org chart" of the seven densities:

1st Density: Rocks, minerals and plants. Most of us have been taught that “inanimate” objects such as rocks and “low” forms of life such as plants are not conscious and are inconsequential. This is not true, and is yet another way that we’ve been conditioned to cut ourselves off from the natural world and to keep us from realizing that everything is connected and symbiotic. While a rock or mineral certainly doesn’t possess a soul in the same sense that a dog or a human does, it does however have faint conciousness. Anything that is part of the earth does, and that definitely goes for plants and trees which are living, breathing complex organisms.
2nd Density: Most animals, other than human. Second density animals will vary in soul strength. Animals that are in close contact with humans begin to absorb some of their human companions’ soul energy and personalities and experience leaps in their personal evolution. As a result, they eventually reach that point where they can now cross over to 3rd, and begin incarnating in human form. That’s why a lizard that lives in your bushes outside will be vastly different from your cat or dog that lives inside, with you. Both are second density, but one is rapidly progressing towards 3rd, thanks to their human owners giving them that boost. It’s fascinating dealing with a pet who is on that brink between 2nd and 3rd. They behave like a person trapped in a pet’s body, complete with facial expressions, reasoning abilities and complex emotions. You can tell that they have outgrown the limitations of their existance and are read! y for something bigger.
3rd Density: Humans, and other highly evolved, intelligent and sentient beings. So, what defines 2nd density versus 3rd? Why would one animal be considered in one group, while another belongs to the other? It boils down to individualization, and how individualized an animal is from the others around it. It’s the knowledge of self awareness, and everything that stems from that knowledge. When a being possesses self awareness, and can distinguish itself as a separate entity from those around it, it results in a floodgate of other traits and behaviors, such as: emotional intelligence, mental intelligence, a sense of purpose, service to others/altruism, self sacrifice, the ability to override urges and curb behaviors rather than acting on pure instinct, the ability to ponder their place in the world. There are some animals, such as elephants, dolphins and bonobos to name a few, that act more 3rd density than some humans. And most li! kely, they are 3rd. Not all humans are fully souled, as detailed in the C’s material. Many are just bridges between 2nd and 3rd. Again, the Powers That Be have conditioned us to believe that humans are the end all be all on this planet, we’re the most evolved, and, that we’re all the same, when the real answer is “D…..none of the above.” When most humans are governed by primal urges and never accomplish anything more than what an elephant or a chimpanzee accomplishes, (eat, sleep, go to the bathroom, have sex, make babies, repeat….) why are we then considered higher up? Doesn’t make a whole lot of sense when you think about it.
(Densities 1 - 3 co-exist together on the same realm)
4th - Variable reality - Ability to exist as both physical and non-physical, with greater abilities, knowledge and awareness. Both STS and STO coexist in this realm in multiple forms. One moves on to 4th when they’ve gotten everything they can out of 3rd and no longer have a need to keep incarnating in that form. It’s like graduating from highschool and moving on to college. You don’t have to know the material they teach in college in order to go, you just have to know all the material they taught you in highschool. And that’s why you go to college – because of the fact you need to learn the next step. But eating, sex, and life in general is different from the way we experience it here in 3rd. There is still a conflict between STS and STO at this level. "Sex" isn't primal and for procreation, but rather a different form which is about souls mingling; consumption of physical food is not necessary, which means expelling waste prod! ucts is obsolete, as is the necessity for "maintaining the physical body". Again though, one can have a physical body, but it's a mental projection more or less, which is the best way to put it. It's there because you choose for it to be there. 4th density is a higher frequency than 3rd, and therefore, exists on another realm, or dimension. However, we are in the process of merging with 4th, due to the Wave. As a result, people whose frequencies are vibrating at that higher rate will experience instances of bleedthroughs more and more as the realities collide, until the final merge takes place.
5th - Where souls go when the physical body dies. 5th is a neutral "time out", contemplative zone where STO and STS take a break from each other. This is where one goes to review the events of their life, recuperate when needed for those lives that were especially taxing, and plan for their next incarnation.
6th - Existence as energy, unified thought form, with the ability to take on a physical appearance for those occasions when visiting lower densities. 6th density is primarily an STO realm, however, STS still exists in this density as thought form, for the sake of "balance." STS in 6th density does not have the ability to abduct individuals or violate free will, however, the way STS in densities 1 – 4 do.
7th - Union with the creator source, returning to the point of origin. Where soul energy goes after it has completed its full incarnational cycle and has learned all the lessons it can possibly learn.
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