Economic collapse immanent?

So... I've browsed around and have expected to see this thread come up here, or on a.g.r. I don't keep up on AGR that much so maybe it's there and I havn't seen it... anyways... I thought I'd throw it out there...

We very well may be on the way into the "Second Great Depression" fuel has been on a steady increase for a few years, food prices have gone up sharply over the past year... and have you ever heard of "Peak Oil"????

I'm just trying to open a conversation here, so I don't have much else to say except that if you aren't growing your own food, and making yourself less dependent upon "The Machine," you may find yourself in trouble...

any thoughts??

Love

p.s. attendance at gatherings could be going up pretty quick pretty soon... I know I'm down!

 

I hope some people are will be willing to trade suplies for art if the economy collapses. I doubt it, but it'd be nice.

 

ive said this was coming for over a year here and oddly enough some have chastised me and called me a fearmonger .
i never expected some family of all people to be so blind and have so much faith in babylon to make it all better so i gave up trying to discuss it here.

yes a collapse is coming,yes its going to be unlike any of us could have imagined..

we have till somewhere between February to June of 2009 to finish our preparations and prepare for 3 to 5 years of hyperinflation and massive unemployment.we should see a extended period of deflation leading up to the beginning of the inflation so take advantage of the falling prices while you can.

it should be noted that this will come along with more than likely civil unrest,food and fuel shortages and quite possibly at some point marshal law..

i am very well read on the subject,i consider myself to be prepared for whats coming as well.i would be happy to discuss this further and give advice with anyone that is taking this seriously.

however i will not waste my time on naysayers and trolls who believe the very people that have created this crisis give a rats ass about any of us and can or will stop this from happening..

 

..................................There probably wont be much trade for cultural items.. mostlikely if anything it would be a barter system for food, water, clothing/shoes , ammo and that type of thing..best to grow a crop or make mocosines or something that ppl will need to survive.. we may have to hunkerdown for SEVEN yrs.. that's a long time..I'm kinda wondering how we are gonna feed our livestock in the winter when the pastures don't yeild..... WE have pastures on two sides of us, but the land is owned by.. well not a sharing type dude (cattleman)..he bought up all the land around us from a good neighbor who passed away.. it kept ppl from moving in around us..but there are ppl we don't know starting to build big ole expensive houses all around the area.. that worries me too.. bc we don't know where they stand or if they will hit 'the report button' on us..they ( new ones) don't know us either and think us a bunch of 'crazy hippies' The old neighbors, says they feel safe while taking their walks by our 'corner' they call it Clanton's Corner.. we know where they stand.. same as us.. but them new city folks.. they are hard to figure........ as 'hunting' season is approaching.. and shells/bullets will be going on sale..we are gonna stock up while the price is a little lower..that's what everyone I know is getting for xmas....................HHB how does your solor dehydrator work for meat/jerky??....

 

we are devoting a acre to growing amaranth for our animals SH,the whole plant is edible and the grain is double the protein value as all stock.
it may be something you want to look in to.also we intend on reducing our herd size so that between that,the silage we save from our corn etc,the fallen leaves we should be able to get the goats and chickens through the winters without them suffering.

 

A few goats for milk, and a few cattle.... if you cant feed them with what you grow yourself, you might as well sell them... I don't think it's ecological, or sustainable, or kind to try and take care of a large group of animals...

chickens.. well, they're pretty easy to feed anyways.

I'm at a school right now called the "Titanic Lifeboat academy" (lifeboat.postcarbon.org)

these guys are pretty "apocalyptic"... I'm full of hope and faith and Love.... but yeah... shit's happening...

be aware, be prepared... watch out for what they don't tell you on the news...

Love

p.s. it's probably a good idea to have seeds of different kinds on hand... they're cheap, and probably will become more valuable as time goes on...

 

anyone buying seeds should be sure that they are heirloom seeds so that you can save seed for the next years planting..

 

dont forget to build a still while you can still get copper.

 

thankfully i dont have that vice anymore..

 

I did that last year, hillbillie. Failed miserably at growing them, but I've got them, and I saved what I did harvest!

Thanks for the link, OneVoice. That should be an interesting site to explore.

 

we havent tried the dehydrator for meat.. i just built a cold smoke smoker for that.
havent used it yet,hunting season just opened saturday and i always lay back an give the deer a few weeks to think this area is safe. once they all congregate and get comfy and complacent is when i go into the woods,,makes hunting much easier..

we have a couple wethers that we are going to slaughter some time next month as well so the cold smoker will be getting a workout soon enough..
going to try our hand at salt curing as well.

our aim is to be able to go without electricity indefinitely. we completed the root cellar a few weeks back so we are inching closer.. self sustainability is a long slow row to hoe as you know...

 

I believe a large depression is in the near future, I feel positive about it.
I don’t think it is the end of the world just the end of the world as we know it.

The end of the U.S. being the ultimate super power consumer, the end of people driving a 8 cylinder SUV 40 miles one way to work coming home to a 5 bedroom home in the suburbs and eating TV dinners and making sure the kids have taken their Ritalin.

Every generation has had a End of the world as they know it in the 60s people thought the world was over. In the 70s mass people thought the oil peak was here and went hiding in the woods until they got board and hungry. In the 80s people though there would be a nuclear holocaust. On 2000 people thought the Illuminati would take over the world and kill 90% of the people and implant microchips.

People are always predicting some disaster and then when troubling times come they freak out.

I do agree that we need to become less dependant on the machine because the machine is non sustainable with out oil it is in big trouble. The massive American urban sprawl is completely non-sustainable the huge home the huge cars the massive commutes.

I am lucky and live around quite a few aware people and a lot of folks are working very hard to build alternative living structures that will be sustainable.

I am hoping for and end to a lot of destructive garbage and the beginning of a lot of better things.

It is up to us to create the better things we want and the things we want our children to inherit.

 

people were afraid of things... and the man on top placated them.... the people in power know the condition of the world... apparently it's part of the plan.... not my plan though....

The Revolution is NOW.... and the most powerful thing we can do is to not spend money... every dollar earned or spent goes towards destroying the earth.... **DON'T FEED THE ANIMALS(powermongers i mean)** grow food, save seeds, boycott the grocery store....


http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

it's 2 hours long... but if you really want to understand what's going on these days... watch the whole thing...

 

Yes, so much of even the good Family I know seems in denial about the situation. Unwilling to change their lives to build sustainability, unwilling to work together. Some of us are out here trying to get prepared though!

Love and Light,
Joshua of the Reading Rainbow

 

listen to the latest predictions outta half past human.. we have less than 9 months if they are correct..

http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/http/MP3Download/Oct2008/7wz61g/rense_102008_hr2.mp3

 

This is why I am skeptical about a planned melt down. The sheep are already headed to the way they want..

People are already giving their kids chemical lobotomies all our commercial goods have scan tags all transactions can be tracked.

Most people would already accept a chip… and more so every year. Why scare them?

No more 100 channels in a comfy home and retirement , so now people are going to go hungry and get mad at the Gov,

It could be all planned but that’s just too shallow to accept with out info to back it. Most of these theories and prediction are pretty shallow with not much to back them up. If you accept every conspiracy theory you will just be a confused skizo head case.

This planned meltdown theory needs more info to it, leaks from inside people, smoking guns, expert pointing out mistakes. ect.

 

I have been watching a debate on the situation that has some good points in it. If you can handle Alex Jones he pretty much hogs the show drumming up the conspiracy theory but it is interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOAUzj5buuw&feature=related

 

so guys an economic collapse hey? well doesnt sound to promising although i do look forward to all the tent cities and camps that will start to form soon.all those rainbow gathering experiences will come in handy. anyhow hippiehillbilly, what do you suggest people like me in the city do while we go through the stages of deflation into hyper inflation. i mean i think we should all gather somewhere outside and get out of the cities and meet somewhere to create a safehaven. we are stronger in numbers, and if this thing is going to hit the fan with fema camps martial law and a depression. i'm looking for direction . if the time is now..we need to get a close knit group of people all over the place to help create a space where women and children can come and feel safe. so according to cliff and george at halfpasthuman.com we have 9 months give or take a few days. there are certain things we need to buy now b4 they are not available in the stores anymore becuz when the economy goes so do goods made in china or where ever else we americans enjoy the benefit of having low priced goods made..ok so ideas come one come all. i wanna see us come together and think, and think long about what needs to be done. we all can contribute and help each other.calling all warriors to reply with their thoughts on the future that is upon us.
as above so below , as within so without.

blessings

Inlakesh

 

top priority for anyone is food IMO..stores will quickly empty and dumpsters are not going to be a option if things get bad..to be honest,ive been outta the city so long i have no idea what advice to give to those there..
get out?
pray it doesnt get as bad as they say???

i know i wouldnt want to be in one. as far as what to get otherwise while you can,anything you dont already have to survive without a infrastructure for however long you think is necessary. i recommend a minimum of 30 days.dont forget the toilet paper..

truth is that they are warning us something big and bad is coming.
both these comments are from this weekend.

from joe biden,

“Mark my words,” Mr. Biden warned at the Seattle fund-raiser, according to reports from network producers traveling with him, “It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We’re about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. Remember, I said it standing here, if you don’t remember anything else I said. Watch, we’re going to have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy.”

then colin powell says ,

"theres going to be a crisis come along the twenty first or twenty second of january that we dont even know about right now".(WTF does that mean?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LDBOPcHpeo (2:40 into the video)

if the "crisis" turns out to be a "terrorist attack" then the cities could very well go into lockdown and then who knows what from there.doesnt seem like a place i would want to be..
like i said though i just dont know..

 

Man! I finally got a house to have preps!!!! Only been here 4 months running out of $$$$ for preps!!! Have about 4 months worth of food...

Whattcha think is gonna happen?

Hope my fam is going to be o..k they live quite close to the city.