Halloween? How do you feel about it?

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by DonGenaro, Oct 8, 2008.

  1. Lynnbrown

    Lynnbrown Firecracker

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    Because evil will always seek to bring down what is holy?

    The age old battle - good vs evil. Though Satan is the prince of this world, he will certainly not be the ultimate victor - but before he goes down to his everlasting demise, he will see to take as many down as possible.

    You know that, right?:)
     
  2. 420UFO

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    riiight. :rolleyes: I worship myself.
     
  3. 420UFO

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    because Satan is real, right? :rolleyes:
     
  4. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    worshipping the metaphorical satan may just be worse than worshipping the real one.
     
  5. Lynnbrown

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    Well, I happen to think so, yes. B/c I also believe in God.

    Satan/Lucifer (among many other names) Was the most beautiful angel - before he decided he was as great as/the same as God and then he was kicked out of heaven.
    Whoever originally painted that painting probably believed. In the
    Bible it says that even the devil believes in God - meaning that Satan believes there Is God; ole Scratch (another fav name of mine for the devil) just didn't put his belief In God - rather in himself.:rolleyes:
     
  6. Lynnbrown

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    I should have added that I furthur believe there is balance in all things.

    Therefore, God's "balance" would be the devil, Satan.
     
  7. neodude1212

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    Not quite.

    Even in fundamental christianity, Satan can not be a balance to God, because Satan is never ever seen as being an equal to the omipotence of God.
     
  8. Lynnbrown

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    You are right as far as the omnipotence; however, I believe not only the Bible's account of Lucifer being cast out - basically because of his massive egotism, but it also talks about him (Satan) being the prince of this world...

    Believing in God And balances tells me that if God is real there is also a real entity representing evil. And the Bible also speaks of the devil having powers, but, no - not omnipotence.:)
     
  9. Lynnbrown

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    I really didn't mean to imply that the Master and the devil were on the same level - as far as "balanced" out the same - just that if one believes in God, one should also believe there is a real entity that represents the total opposite of God.
    Though this is all a bit off the subject: At the battle of Armegeddon, it won't be fought with a metaphorical devil and a make-believe anti-Christ against real God.
    Re Halloween: Who is to say that there isn't this one day Allowed (by Him above) for spirits to walk and visit? I don't understand why (mostly fundamentalists) must drag Lucifer into this.
     
  10. DonGenaro

    DonGenaro off to another land

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    You represent rather well what, in my opinion, makes religion so pointless. This is a book that was written very, very, very long ago, I'm sure you know that. At that time, certain people wanted to give a certain message to certain people, so they decided to do it in the most simple way: metaphores. Also, the world has changed a lot since, so you're aplying random rules you got from a book to a context that has absolutely nothing to do with actual social and ideological structures. AND these books shouldn't be taken literaly in the first place. Certainly, the message can be enriching, but believing all it says is a bit dumb, in my opinion. Believing in something blindly, is also very dumb. Doubting things is without a doubt the first step to freedom of the mind.
     
  13. DonGenaro

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  14. Lynnbrown

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    DonGenaro, do you consider yourself a fundamentalist? Is that why you certainly seemed so angry at my post? (You trap more bees with honey than vinegar.)
    I just want to reitterate that I Do NOT think God and His cast out angel become satan are "equal". However, they certainly do represent 2 different sides. To believe in one is to (should be) to acknowledge the other's presence.
    I put my belief in God long ago and have read the Bible, and really didn't need furthur references that lucifer is currently the prince of this earth. I look around seeing the evil that is promoted as something Everybody should obtain every day. (I don't even have a cell phone, by choice, btw.)

    I don't know about Halloween "uplifting God", I think you said; but I am sure that when this holiday is "celebrated" at churches around the world - which it is - satan is certainly Not being uplifted.

    But, as I said before, I not only believe in God, but know that in the Bible it lets us know that even the devil knows scripture, and believes in God. he just doesn't/wouldn't put his belief In God.
     
  15. Lynnbrown

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    Escuse me, you said "bring respect and dignity to God" - and perhaps in some churches, even Baptist churches around here - that just well may happen.
     
  16. DonGenaro

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    Yeah, the Baptist Church within a couple of miles from here, where I was baptized 40 some odd years ago believes in the Trinity, as do all Protestant churches, to my knowledge. (Baptist, Presbyterian, Methodist, - and I think Lutheran). They have a type of celebration at several of the churches in the area.
    My take is that if God is Brought into Anything, even a pagan holiday, it will/can work to His benefit.
    Isn't there a scripture (that for the Life of me I cannot find) that says "All things work together for the good of those that love the Lord" or something like that? If you know the verse, please tell me the reference. It's gonna Bug me til I find it.
     
  18. Lynnbrown

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    Romans 8:28 - And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are called according to his purpose"
    Thank you Don for inspiring me to remember this, and persist until I found it .

    Surely at the many different churches, there will be some (if not many) that love God.:)
     
  19. 420UFO

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    lol he keeps deleting his posts.
     
  20. 420UFO

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    lol ur silly.

    So what if someone wants to consider themselves greater than "God"? so what if someone wants to eat the sacred fruit from the tree of knowledge? We have every right. screw anyone who says otherwise. I support freedom to explore what I want.
     

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