Obama and his affordable housing "pals"

Seems to be an aweful lot of money being thrown around to a group of "developers" that have close ties to each other. Innocent relationships, or padding each others pockets? You decide.

Obama- The man who made the money available.

Tax dollars well spent?

Who received this money and why?

How did these relationships form?

What did Obama get in return?

Are there others?

Where does Tony Rezko come in?

Obama and Rezko?

Allison Davis, Obama's former boss at the firm that represented Rezko and other developers

Woods Fund, organization that Obama and Ayers served together, donated money to ACORN, Reverend Wright Black Liberation, and Ayer's wifes organization.

Friends in low places?

How can anyone support this use of taxpayer money?

Fraud, bribery, embezzlement, hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars, and Senator Obama.

It sure looks like it "pays" to be friends with Barack Obama.


Does anyone see a pattern in the network of relationships that Obama seems to have?



Doesn't it seem a little too convenient?



Quotes provided by The Boston Globe.

 

wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

hey you iraqi dude... Do you have any links to this shit?? 'd like to see them, only itf they are not FOX channel related. Oh, and while you are at it, grow some balls and look into Palin's ethics violations in Alaska and do a quick search on McCain's military vote.... He got a D!!!! I can give you the links. No wonder there is a majority vote this election to Obama. Oh, and how in THE HELL can you feel your intellect is above those that you choose to surround yourself with? How old are you???????? Or How Rich Are Your Parents?

 

Oh, of course... I wanted those links so that I could read the whole quote /quotes of whoever wrote them..... Thank You!

 

Plain and simple you may be a rabid obama fan...

but the fact of the matter the man is a blood sucking lawyer, smooth talker, bullshitter, and all around actor. If you can't tell when you watch him speak publicly and during debates Im sorry! Now dont get me wrong I am not saying mccain is any better nor am I trying to say vote mccain cause I wont vote for him. I am just saying Obama is a god damned mouth piece and if you think he has your best interest at hand well you got another thing coming. Look at the things he promises and actually logically think about his tax plan. Increase the taxes on 25% of people to reduce the taxes for 75% Either he plans a very small reduction for each family Or he is feeding the people a plan that sounds feasible but once you get down to the math wont actually work. (go figure regular I wanna get elected bullshit)

To honestly tell you the truth he sounds exactly like baby bush did in his first presidential election...

P.S. I really wish you Obama supporters would stop trying to make every person who criticizes him out to be some rich Republican base voter. Some maybe genuinely worried individuals who see threw obamas Political farce and super stardom. Not all of his criticizers like Mc Cain and I am definently voting for nader so your Mc Cain comments really wont effect me
Thanks

 

Okay...something teer dude. I'm just a gonna guess. 1. I am wiser than you. period 2. I have lived in more cultural places than you. 3. I have a much more open mind than you.PERIOD. 4 I am so much more compassionate than You> 5 I know what empathy is and I live by the essence of empathy.... I feel sorry for your stagnation into thinking that I am just a die hard Obama fan. Ya got guts?? Meet me and lets have a talk!

 

P.S. I really wish you Obama supporters would stop trying to make every person who criticizes him out to be some rich Republican base voter. Some maybe genuinely worried individuals who see threw obamas Political farce and super stardom. Not all of his criticizers like Mc Cain and I am definently voting for nader so your Mc Cain comments really wont effect me
Thanks

Didn't really understand most of that up there. I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO FIND THE MOST UNDERSTANDABLE TRUTH FOR 2+ YEARS. Hours and hours a day (minus the main stream media) in any outlet that i can reasonably lok into. Educating yourself...... the most important thing that the American public could or should do at this point. That is so much of who I am. I search for HOPE, I search for LOVE, I search for UNDERSTANDING. And I will always support the thought of all of them.
Negativity or Positivity....... I choose the latter

 

Look I am not trying to flame you
It is not necessary to have a list of reasons on why my OPINIONS arent valid to you
it seems if you were really all that into empathy you would understand that this is simply the way I feel. Now on to my next point were having a talk right now I brought some points to the table now I am waiting for a rebuttal. What exactly does Obama say that you like? What are some of his solid policies that you agree with and why do you think they would work?

and as for negativity or positivity I support the latter also.
I also search for understanding day in and day out like tons of people I know who completely agree with my standpoint on obama
it is nice that he is such a political catalyst but I believe people are becoming wrapped up in his persona and focusing more on his explosive speeches then his straight forward policy

 

Someone please start a thread titled "McCain and his military pals."

 

LOL

so true.
We could go on and on about these things
but it wont change the fact that no matter which way you look at it were fucked

Voting machines can be rigged and their taking 80% of votes in the next election

id say thats good enough to secure a win for someone...

 

Not to mention we now have an army unit on standby within our borders...

I can DEAL with scummy real estate developers but those people who decide, hey I think I will be in the killing industry are a whole other catagory of filth.

 

Yeah what the fuck is that army unit on stand by in our country

Have you ever heard about the presidential decree bush put in
It states in a national emergency or great time of crisis in america the president does not have to relinquish office and can post pone election and declare martial law

I believe is npsd 51-something
ill have to search for it for you

But basically the term national emergency is defined as
A economic disaster, Anything causing mass american casualties, Terroristic attacks, A crippling of infrastructure etc

It is so loosely defined that Just about any major tragedy one could fit into this directive.

The fecked up part is that congress doesnt even have to declare a state of national emergency only the president does and he can completely hi jack our government post poning all elections

Here is the link to the directive i posted below straight from the horses mouth
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/05/20070509-12.html

 

it reads as follows straight from the white house...

NATIONAL SECURITY PRESIDENTIAL DIRECTIVE/NSPD 51

HOMELAND SECURITY PRESIDENTIAL DIRECTIVE/HSPD-20

Subject: National Continuity Policy

Purpose

(1) This directive establishes a comprehensive national policy on the continuity of Federal Government structures and operations and a single National Continuity Coordinator responsible for coordinating the development and implementation of Federal continuity policies. This policy establishes "National Essential Functions," prescribes continuity requirements for all executive departments and agencies, and provides guidance for State, local, territorial, and tribal governments, and private sector organizations in order to ensure a comprehensive and integrated national continuity program that will enhance the credibility of our national security posture and enable a more rapid and effective response to and recovery from a national emergency.

Definitions

(2) In this directive:

(a) "Category" refers to the categories of executive departments and agencies listed in Annex A to this directive;

(b) "Catastrophic Emergency" means any incident, regardless of location, that results in extraordinary levels of mass casualties, damage, or disruption severely affecting the U.S. population, infrastructure, environment, economy, or government functions;

(c) "Continuity of Government," or "COG," means a coordinated effort within the Federal Government's executive branch to ensure that National Essential Functions continue to be performed during a Catastrophic Emergency;

(d) "Continuity of Operations," or "COOP," means an effort within individual executive departments and agencies to ensure that Primary Mission-Essential Functions continue to be performed during a wide range of emergencies, including localized acts of nature, accidents, and technological or attack-related emergencies;

(e) "Enduring Constitutional Government," or "ECG," means a cooperative effort among the executive, legislative, and judicial branches of the Federal Government, coordinated by the President, as a matter of comity with respect to the legislative and judicial branches and with proper respect for the constitutional separation of powers among the branches, to preserve the constitutional framework under which the Nation is governed and the capability of all three branches of government to execute constitutional responsibilities and provide for orderly succession, appropriate transition of leadership, and interoperability and support of the National Essential Functions during a catastrophic emergency;

(f) "Executive Departments and Agencies" means the executive departments enumerated in 5 U.S.C. 101, independent establishments as defined by 5 U.S.C. 104(1), Government corporations as defined by 5 U.S.C. 103(1), and the United States Postal Service;

(g) "Government Functions" means the collective functions of the heads of executive departments and agencies as defined by statute, regulation, presidential direction, or other legal authority, and the functions of the legislative and judicial branches;

(h) "National Essential Functions," or "NEFs," means that subset of Government Functions that are necessary to lead and sustain the Nation during a catastrophic emergency and that, therefore, must be supported through COOP and COG capabilities; and

(i) "Primary Mission Essential Functions," or "PMEFs," means those Government Functions that must be performed in order to support or implement the performance of NEFs before, during, and in the aftermath of an emergency.

Policy

(3) It is the policy of the United States to maintain a comprehensive and effective continuity capability composed of Continuity of Operations and Continuity of Government programs in order to ensure the preservation of our form of government under the Constitution and the continuing performance of National Essential Functions under all conditions.

Implementation Actions

(4) Continuity requirements shall be incorporated into daily operations of all executive departments and agencies. As a result of the asymmetric threat environment, adequate warning of potential emergencies that could pose a significant risk to the homeland might not be available, and therefore all continuity planning shall be based on the assumption that no such warning will be received. Emphasis will be placed upon geographic dispersion of leadership, staff, and infrastructure in order to increase survivability and maintain uninterrupted Government Functions. Risk management principles shall be applied to ensure that appropriate operational readiness decisions are based on the probability of an attack or other incident and its consequences.

(5) The following NEFs are the foundation for all continuity programs and capabilities and represent the overarching responsibilities of the Federal Government to lead and sustain the Nation during a crisis, and therefore sustaining the following NEFs shall be the primary focus of the Federal Government leadership during and in the aftermath of an emergency that adversely affects the performance of Government Functions:

(a) Ensuring the continued functioning of our form of government under the Constitution, including the functioning of the three separate branches of government;

(b) Providing leadership visible to the Nation and the world and maintaining the trust and confidence of the American people;

(c) Defending the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic, and preventing or interdicting attacks against the United States or its people, property, or interests;

(d) Maintaining and fostering effective relationships with foreign nations;

(e) Protecting against threats to the homeland and bringing to justice perpetrators of crimes or attacks against the United States or its people, property, or interests;

(f) Providing rapid and effective response to and recovery from the domestic consequences of an attack or other incident;

(g) Protecting and stabilizing the Nation's economy and ensuring public confidence in its financial systems; and

(h) Providing for critical Federal Government services that address the national health, safety, and welfare needs of the United States.

(6) The President shall lead the activities of the Federal Government for ensuring constitutional government. In order to advise and assist the President in that function, the Assistant to the President for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism (APHS/CT) is hereby designated as the National Continuity Coordinator. The National Continuity Coordinator, in coordination with the Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs (APNSA), without exercising directive authority, shall coordinate the development and implementation of continuity policy for executive departments and agencies. The Continuity Policy Coordination Committee (CPCC), chaired by a Senior Director from the Homeland Security Council staff, designated by the National Continuity Coordinator, shall be the main day-to-day forum for such policy coordination.

(7) For continuity purposes, each executive department and agency is assigned to a category in accordance with the nature and characteristics of its national security roles and responsibilities in support of the Federal Government's ability to sustain the NEFs. The Secretary of Homeland Security shall serve as the President's lead agent for coordinating overall continuity operations and activities of executive departments and agencies, and in such role shall perform the responsibilities set forth for the Secretary in sections 10 and 16 of this directive.

(8) The National Continuity Coordinator, in consultation with the heads of appropriate executive departments and agencies, will lead the development of a National Continuity Implementation Plan (Plan), which shall include prioritized goals and objectives, a concept of operations, performance metrics by which to measure continuity readiness, procedures for continuity and incident management activities, and clear direction to executive department and agency continuity coordinators, as well as guidance to promote interoperability of Federal Government continuity programs and procedures with State, local, territorial, and tribal governments, and private sector owners and operators of critical infrastructure, as appropriate. The Plan shall be submitted to the President for approval not later than 90 days after the date of this directive.

(9) Recognizing that each branch of the Federal Government is responsible for its own continuity programs, an official designated by the Chief of Staff to the President shall ensure that the executive branch's COOP and COG policies in support of ECG efforts are appropriately coordinated with those of the legislative and judicial branches in order to ensure interoperability and allocate national assets efficiently to maintain a functioning Federal Government.

(10) Federal Government COOP, COG, and ECG plans and operations shall be appropriately integrated with the emergency plans and capabilities of State, local, territorial, and tribal governments, and private sector owners and operators of critical infrastructure, as appropriate, in order to promote interoperability and to prevent redundancies and conflicting lines of authority. The Secretary of Homeland Security shall coordinate the integration of Federal continuity plans and operations with State, local, territorial, and tribal governments, and private sector owners and operators of critical infrastructure, as appropriate, in order to provide for the delivery of essential services during an emergency.

(11) Continuity requirements for the Executive Office of the President (EOP) and executive departments and agencies shall include the following:

(a) The continuation of the performance of PMEFs during any emergency must be for a period up to 30 days or until normal operations can be resumed, and the capability to be fully operational at alternate sites as soon as possible after the occurrence of an emergency, but not later than 12 hours after COOP activation;

(b) Succession orders and pre-planned devolution of authorities that ensure the emergency delegation of authority must be planned and documented in advance in accordance with applicable law;

(c) Vital resources, facilities, and records must be safeguarded, and official access to them must be provided;

(d) Provision must be made for the acquisition of the resources necessary for continuity operations on an emergency basis;

(e) Provision must be made for the availability and redundancy of critical communications capabilities at alternate sites in order to support connectivity between and among key government leadership, internal elements, other executive departments and agencies, critical partners, and the public;

(f) Provision must be made for reconstitution capabilities that allow for recovery from a catastrophic emergency and resumption of normal operations; and

(g) Provision must be made for the identification, training, and preparedness of personnel capable of relocating to alternate facilities to support the continuation of the performance of PMEFs.

(12) In order to provide a coordinated response to escalating threat levels or actual emergencies, the Continuity of Government Readiness Conditions (COGCON) system establishes executive branch continuity program readiness levels, focusing on possible threats to the National Capital Region. The President will determine and issue the COGCON Level. Executive departments and agencies shall comply with the requirements and assigned responsibilities under the COGCON program. During COOP activation, executive departments and agencies shall report their readiness status to the Secretary of Homeland Security or the Secretary's designee.

(13) The Director of the Office of Management and Budget shall:

(a) Conduct an annual assessment of executive department and agency continuity funding requests and performance data that are submitted by executive departments and agencies as part of the annual budget request process, in order to monitor progress in the implementation of the Plan and the execution of continuity budgets;

(b) In coordination with the National Continuity Coordinator, issue annual continuity planning guidance for the development of continuity budget requests; and

(c) Ensure that heads of executive departments and agencies prioritize budget resources for continuity capabilities, consistent with this directive.

(14) The Director of the Office of Science and Technology Policy shall:

(a) Define and issue minimum requirements for continuity communications for executive departments and agencies, in consultation with the APHS/CT, the APNSA, the Director of the Office of Management and Budget, and the Chief of Staff to the President;

(b) Establish requirements for, and monitor the development, implementation, and maintenance of, a comprehensive communications architecture to integrate continuity components, in consultation with the APHS/CT, the APNSA, the Director of the Office of Management and Budget, and the Chief of Staff to the President; and

(c) Review quarterly and annual assessments of continuity communications capabilities, as prepared pursuant to section 16(d) of this directive or otherwise, and report the results and recommended remedial actions to the National Continuity Coordinator.

(15) An official designated by the Chief of Staff to the President shall:

(a) Advise the President, the Chief of Staff to the President, the APHS/CT, and the APNSA on COGCON operational execution options; and

(b) Consult with the Secretary of Homeland Security in order to ensure synchronization and integration of continuity activities among the four categories of executive departments and agencies.

(16) The Secretary of Homeland Security shall:

(a) Coordinate the implementation, execution, and assessment of continuity operations and activities;

(b) Develop and promulgate Federal Continuity Directives in order to establish continuity planning requirements for executive departments and agencies;

(c) Conduct biennial assessments of individual department and agency continuity capabilities as prescribed by the Plan and report the results to the President through the APHS/CT;

(d) Conduct quarterly and annual assessments of continuity communications capabilities in consultation with an official designated by the Chief of Staff to the President;

(e) Develop, lead, and conduct a Federal continuity training and exercise program, which shall be incorporated into the National Exercise Program developed pursuant to Homeland Security Presidential Directive-8 of December 17, 2003 ("National Preparedness"), in consultation with an official designated by the Chief of Staff to the President;

(f) Develop and promulgate continuity planning guidance to State, local, territorial, and tribal governments, and private sector critical infrastructure owners and operators;

(g) Make available continuity planning and exercise funding, in the form of grants as provided by law, to State, local, territorial, and tribal governments, and private sector critical infrastructure owners and operators; and

(h) As Executive Agent of the National Communications System, develop, implement, and maintain a comprehensive continuity communications architecture.

(17) The Director of National Intelligence, in coordination with the Attorney General and the Secretary of Homeland Security, shall produce a biennial assessment of the foreign and domestic threats to the Nation's continuity of government.

(18) The Secretary of Defense, in coordination with the Secretary of Homeland Security, shall provide secure, integrated, Continuity of Government communications to the President, the Vice President, and, at a minimum, Category I executive departments and agencies.

(19) Heads of executive departments and agencies shall execute their respective department or agency COOP plans in response to a localized emergency and shall:

(a) Appoint a senior accountable official, at the Assistant Secretary level, as the Continuity Coordinator for the department or agency;

(b) Identify and submit to the National Continuity Coordinator the list of PMEFs for the department or agency and develop continuity plans in support of the NEFs and the continuation of essential functions under all conditions;

(c) Plan, program, and budget for continuity capabilities consistent with this directive;

(d) Plan, conduct, and support annual tests and training, in consultation with the Secretary of Homeland Security, in order to evaluate program readiness and ensure adequacy and viability of continuity plans and communications systems; and

(e) Support other continuity requirements, as assigned by category, in accordance with the nature and characteristics of its national security roles and responsibilities

General Provisions

(20) This directive shall be implemented in a manner that is consistent with, and facilitates effective implementation of, provisions of the Constitution concerning succession to the Presidency or the exercise of its powers, and the Presidential Succession Act of 1947 (3 U.S.C. 19), with consultation of the Vice President and, as appropriate, others involved. Heads of executive departments and agencies shall ensure that appropriate support is available to the Vice President and others involved as necessary to be prepared at all times to implement those provisions.

(21) This directive:

(a) Shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and the authorities of agencies, or heads of agencies, vested by law, and subject to the availability of appropriations;

(b) Shall not be construed to impair or otherwise affect (i) the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budget, administrative, and legislative proposals, or (ii) the authority of the Secretary of Defense over the Department of Defense, including the chain of command for military forces from the President, to the Secretary of Defense, to the commander of military forces, or military command and control procedures; and

(c) Is not intended to, and does not, create any rights or benefits, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by a party against the United States, its agencies, instrumentalities, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.

(22) Revocation. Presidential Decision Directive 67 of October 21, 1998 ("Enduring Constitutional Government and Continuity of Government Operations"), including all Annexes thereto, is hereby revoked.

(23) Annex A and the classified Continuity Annexes, attached hereto, are hereby incorporated into and made a part of this directive.

(24) Security. This directive and the information contained herein shall be protected from unauthorized disclosure, provided that, except for Annex A, the Annexes attached to this directive are classified and shall be accorded appropriate handling, consistent with applicable Executive Orders.

GEORGE W. BUSH

 

The whole purpose of this thread is to divert people away from other threads. Wacky's basic strategy is to bait reasonable people with bullshit posts from questionable, partisan sources, so you can waste your time researching and responding to his bullshit, pushing anti-obama threads to the top. When I got here, I was very surprised to find the dialog so goddamn retarded, and obsessed with smearing Obama.

None of this is even worth disputing. You are not going to convince a partisan operative (paid?) of anything, and he has a plethora of partisan sources with ready made posts for him.

Are we implying that obama will turn this country into a kleptocracy? Please, let's talk about something substantive: readiness, policy prescriptions, character.

Character: we can listen to smears all day, and smear both sides of this election. But what I've seen so far is an erratic McCain, and a steady Obama.

Past associations may have their place when we have two compelling candidates, but before we do that, why don't we let the candidates speak for themselves, and see what their own words reveal? In this case, I don't come up with two compelling candidates.

 

The members here choose what to respond to. The more popular threads resurface at the top, and when the members are no longer interested, they fade away in the lost pages. If you think the dialog here is so goddamn retarded why do continue to visit? I think that your demeaning of other members dialog makes you come across as very conceited. Why is your dialog more superior?

Sometimes facts are facts, regardless of the source. Whether it is Bill O'Reilly or Keith Olbermann, if it is fact, who cares? The quotes I posted represent fact, not opinion. Facts that are a matter of public record.

This is a question of his character.

Because they are both full of shit and will tell you whatever you want to hear.

 

Nice try, but basically wrong. You are attempting to convince me that you are objective, yet you repeatedly add images to your signature that could only come from partisan blogs. Assuming both candidates are lying is merely your way of elevating yourself above them. They are not full of shit when they lay out their policy prescriptions, and as for character, what matters to a rational voter is not whether a president's past associations are all pure as the driven snow. What matters in a president's character is steadiness, a deliberative mind, and the ability to assimilate and evaluate competing advice.

And yes, sources matter. I don't watch Olberman because it is not serious journalism and isn't as funny as the Daily Show. I mostly read the NYtimes, politico.com, and check realclearpolitics. I keep NPR on all day when I am at home. Talk of the Nation, All Things Considered, and Marketplace are my favorite.

Factcheck.org is something i newly discovered, and that one seems great.

Yes, it matters what you watch, because Bill O'reilly is very good at being very misleading while stroking your ego so you are more willing to make logical leaps. The same goes for most partisan "news" hosts. The idea is less to inform than to make you feel like a winner and keep you coming back for more kool-aid.

 

What affordable housing has McCain ever offered the working man?

He owns seven homes. I'd consider renting a room in one of them. But I'd bet he's not letting at this moment. He might consider it down the road, if times ever get rough for him and his family.

 

I am not trying to convince you of anything, I recognized your type almost immediately.

But when asked about political, personal, and business relationships they will only tell you what you already know. Look at how many retractions Obama has had. Reverend Wright, Rezko, ACORN, Ayers, etc... How many times has Obama downplayed his relationship with guys like Wright and Ayers? How many times did he lie and then retract? I can post the videos if you would like. I don't think I have seen Obama come clean on any questionable relationship. This tells me that Obama knows that he is acting inappropriately, or knows he has relationships with people he probably shoudn't, and he wants to keep them quiet. He acts like he is guilty.

Religous extremists. Political extremists. Former terrorists. Convicted Criminals. These are all people that he has worked with, and they are all people that he has accepted political contributions from. I don't expect a record to be absolutely clean, but there seems to be more than a few inappropriate issues in Obama's file.

 

If you want to look at religious extremists Wacky you have to look at Palin.

And as to bad friends and associates we only to look at the Keating five.

 

You make him sound like Jesus, and you make yourself sound like a Pharisee. Next it's going to be tax collectors and whores.

I'm through getting into this. I'm not convinced any of it matters. All the people you mention are fascinating individuals with whom I could never agree but would gladly associate because of what I could learn. I don't care about Ayers, the Keating Five, and I think Reverend Wright makes a hell of alot more sense than the church Palin would still be going to if it were not political suicide.

What made the biggest difference for Obama was the massive influx of small donations, from people like me who sent what we could afford to send. He's inspiring, and he's the kind of leader we need right now. If he wants to do it again in 4 years, it's the small donations he will have to work for.