All these countries that have all this free health care? Let me guess ~ They can AFFORD free health care for their citizenry, because they don't have to have a military as long as we are pledged to protect them. Hmmm... How's about this? We protect them and they give every citizen in the U.S. free health care? Ooo... Wonder if the 'quality' of their *cough* free *ahem!* care might go down just a tad? And if other countries want to actively hate us? Cool! Don't let the door hit you in the heiny on your way out. 'Bye, now!
if all those countries have no militaries what exactly is the coalition of the willing or whatever they're calling it this go round? and whose troops are the u$ killing in all those friendly fire incidents? maybe some of those countries don't need such a big and expensive military as the u$ does maybe they think that the health of their citizens is worth spending a few pennies on [considering the u$ can barely stand to spend a few pennies on the health of their wounded soldiers]
having no military has nothing to do with free health care. last i heard germany has some level of free health care and they have an awesome military. where are your supporting facts
canada has both a military and free healthcare (in many provinces) I believe there's a couple that don't have free health care, BC is one of them but have low income programs and such....
What does free healthcare have to do with anything. Is someone proposing free healthcare? Hmmm I must have missed that one. Guess I've been away from here for too long.
I've lived in BC. They have the same healthcare. You pay premiums, just like in the other provinces (I think so anyway; Ari? do you pay premiums for OHIP?). Canada has been sacrificing like crazy in Afghanistan. More of them are dying per capita than anyone else. I didn't read the first post because I have Fyrenza on ignore, but that sounds like typical American Navel gazing. Canada lost alot of sons in WWII, and my grandfather was fucked up for the rest of his life. Uninformed, insulting american exceptionalism. So on behalf of all the Canadian vets, and all the ones dying, wounded, and serving in Afghanistan right now, GO FUCK YOURSELF.
there are a few provinces that don't pay premiums, saskatchewan is one of them and I believe ontario is another....
All these countries that have all this free health care? Let me guess ~ They can AFFORD free health care for their citizenry, because they don't have to have a military as long as we are pledged to protect them. Hmmm... How's about this? We protect them and they give every citizen in the U.S. free health care? Ooo... Wonder if the 'quality' of their *cough* free *ahem!* care might go down just a tad? And if other countries want to actively hate us? Cool! Don't let the door hit you in the heiny on your way out. 'Bye, now! this was the original post
despicable. total disregard for human life, not to mention completely unaware of who was holding the fort in the most dangerous regions of afghanistan while we were fucking around in Iraq. GO FUCK YOURSELF. learn to respect human life, you false christian bastard.
Ontario started to pay a once a year fee of less than $200 a year of two ago. It gets paid when file your income tax.
Exactly! "It's not free." There IS a trade-off. Our tax dollars, besides going to line the pockets of the rich, are spent on more defense. The US is a 'super-power,' and it's our moral responsibility to help/protect anyone who needs it and asks for it ~ whether or not they are our 'ally's. i just wish y'all, who DO have these fabulous health care systems, wouldn't look down on us for not having one, when the money we could spend for one MUST go to insure that we have a first-rate military ~ for ALL of us. And the military spending is just an example ~ we spend far too much on welfare programs for illegal aliens, pork-barrel add-ons, and fraudulent civic programs to FAR exceed cost of national healthcare. It's just that we need to focus on remaining strong, with a strong military that gets stronger, not weaker, and it just seems like y'all would care about that, too. i go to some other forums, one in particular that contains roughly 25 MJ's, and it's usually once i've become exasperated with them that i come here, so please forgive me if i sound brusque or, well, exasperated!
Isn't that a bit offensive to think that all other countries need your countries help.. You lot are a lot worse off than us in quite a few ways and our military is just fine.
The basic premise of your belief, that we would have a national health insurance program if we didn't have to spend so much money on the military, is fundamentally flawed. Health care, historically, has been considered "best" handled by the private sector, and there has never been the political will to change that. You mentioned you became sick and fired from work (and honestly sorry to hear you got sick). You basically got screwed, and also your employer got screwed by losing a valued member of his staff, and it amazes me that you haven't put the pieces together why you had to be fired. It has nothing to do with our military spending.
Actually, it's more than a bit offensive, to me for someone who knows darned good and well that they would need our help in any armed confrontation that they got into, to pull an attitude like that. It's a fact that we have a better military machine than y'all do. Heck, ours is pretty much the best in the world. i'm not trying to act arrogant, nor make you mad, here. It's just a fact.
It's especially disheartening because as an American, and i think a lot of us feel this way, Canada and the Canadian people are our little sibling(s). i mean, i would feel duty-bound to defend y'all, and would never want to put you into the middle of any harm. Even in a controversial situation, i'd be much more likely to fall on y'all's side, and to see the issue through your eyes. Unfortunately, Americans have a funny way of showing that they care about their little sisters/brothers ~ we tease them to death, we occassionally beat them up, etc. ~ but God have mercy on the joker that wants to mess with 'em!
Oh, yeah, i have every "right" to sue my former employer, there's no doubt about that. But why? (Other than they were heiny-holes to me, also ) i have HepC ~ got it either working in a hospital in the early '80's, or from a tattoo i got in that same time period ~ complicated by the fact that i'm alergic to pretty much everything (redhead), have a genetic disorder (hemachromatosis) that is ALSO destroying my liver, because it causes me to retain too much iron in my organs, blah, blah, blah). Okay, so how much do you think a round of treatment for HepC costs? Higher. Higher. $80,000 for the one year experimental treatment!!! And when i did the treatment? Yeah, my rbc started getting dangerously low, so i had to add Procrit to the meds. Cost? Well, i don't really remember, so i'd be lying, but it seems like it was over $20,000. That business has to look out for their employees ~ the majority of their employees. Because they had just gone to self-insuring themselves, my little dip into the money pot left quite a dent. You can not fault them for trying to look out for the rest of their employees. Not to speak of the fact that HepC is commonly viewed as another form of AIDS ~ which it isn't ~ and is a communicable disease ~ live blood to live blood, which put their other workers at risk, also. And let's face it ~ how many days do you think i was able to work? Not many, i can tell you. i feel like they did more than their fair share for me, to tell you the truth. It was because of the health insurance that i was able to get a for-sure-and-true, honest-to-goodness annual physical, which is when i found out about all of this stuff. They paid (through the NOSE) to try to help me get well. They treated me like scum, but, whatever. They don't owe me anything else, imho. Man, i hope this has something to do with whatever you posted, because i just blew the back of my head off with a killer hit...
Excuse me? i come to a hippie forum, where the (supposed) connection is based upon one's use of pot, and get talked down to, because i smoke pot??? wow That certainly says a lot for this community...
