Muzzle Loaders

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by psilonaut, Oct 14, 2004.

  1. psilonaut

    psilonaut Mushroom Muncher

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    I know this probably isn't the best forums in the world to be asking about guns... But I'm considering buying a Bakers Rifle .

    And I can't find any canadian gunsmiths that work with reproduction flintlock rifles. Plenty of american gunsmiths, but I know nothing of the laws that apply to having a rifle cross the American\Canadian border.

    Does anybody here have experiences with, or knowledge of these laws? :)
     
  2. Orsino2

    Orsino2 Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    I love black powder guns as a historian (I play music at re-enactments)... other than that, I have a reproduction of the brown bess...
     
  3. psilonaut

    psilonaut Mushroom Muncher

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    I've worked with the brown bess before, when reenacting as a british regular. The Bakers is essentially the same design, just a lil shorter and rifled. Want this so I can do light inf. stuff :)
     
  4. psilonaut

    psilonaut Mushroom Muncher

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    Kinda figured this wouldn't get many replies...
    *BUMP*
     
  5. showmet

    showmet olen tomppeli

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    Yeah and if anyone can help me get hold of an Uzi 9mm...
     
  6. psilonaut

    psilonaut Mushroom Muncher

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    Hay now.... Quite a difference there, I still can't beleive that you can buy freakin UZIs in the states now *shakes head*
     
  7. halloweenriot

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    Since the unconstitutional Clinton Assault Weapons Ban has been lifted, you can have a friend in the states order an IMI Uzi from any gun shop. However, it is a piss-poor weapon; any 9mm carbine is underpowered. If you want a real carbine, get a Colt M4; same weight as an Uzi, and with a 5.56mm you can say hello from a half mile away.
     
  8. psilonaut

    psilonaut Mushroom Muncher

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    But why the hell does any civilian need those kinds of weapons? They are assault weapons.
     
  9. halloweenriot

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    Who said that showmet and I are civilians? And about the muzzleloader, if it is a non-firing historical reproduction, you can have smith work done in the states without any border problems. By non-firing, I mean that the barrel is filled, tapered or crimped; you can charge powder, and the rifle will go bang, but it can't push out a ball. Reenactment rifles should ALWAYS be non-firing.
     
  10. psilonaut

    psilonaut Mushroom Muncher

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    How could you pack the poweder if the barrel is filled or crimped? All reenacting weapons I've worked with have been fully capable of firing balls. And I didn't say that you were civilians. I'm just saying that any U.S. civilian can go out and buy fully automatic assault weapons now.
     
  11. jerry420

    jerry420 Doctor of everything Lifetime Supporter

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    not if your a felon
     
  12. Astaroth

    Astaroth Banned

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    You shouldn't have any problem crossing the border with a rifle, just declare it and make sure it is unloaded. And crimped barrels are for girly men.

    Halloweenriot - if the only UZI you ever fired was an American-built imitation, you're missing out on A LOT. As for M4... the words "piece of shit" come to mind. I've not seen a single American-made weapon that can hold a candle to a Russian, German or Israeli equivalent.
     
  13. halloweenriot

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    psilonaut, fully automatic weapons are ILLEGAL in the USA.


    Astaroth, IMI Uzis are from Israel and they are reliable as hell, but underpowered; and you are wrong about the M4, it is a fucking firecracker. I've used a dozen of them and have never had a problem.


    And about the historical weapons, the last ΒΌ of the barrel is filled or it can just be tapered so smoke comes out; the breech is hinged from the bottom, so paper charges can be loaded. I have done War of 1812 and Rendezvous reenactments, and every weapon was required to be non-firing for insurance purposes - even the knives had to be unsharpened. I have very limited experience and I'm sure things are different in different place, but I wouldn't enter a field with unaltered muzzleloaders - there is always some stupid motherfucker who will make some stupid mistake. Even if part of the ram rod breaks off in the barrel, and the weapon is fired, this can produce a fatal projectile.
     
  14. showmet

    showmet olen tomppeli

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    I am a civilian, one with a sense of humour...
     
  15. psilonaut

    psilonaut Mushroom Muncher

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    I've never seen the hinged breech, must make for some lame lookin reenactments eh? :)

    Sorry I could have sworn that this assault weapon ban that had been lifted included automatic weapons. Last time I checked UZI were automatic ?

    Maybe I'm missing somthing in my terminology?
     
  16. lynsey

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    men who feel the need to own guns generally have small dicks
     
  17. lynsey

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    by the way I hate guns
     
  18. psilonaut

    psilonaut Mushroom Muncher

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    I don't have a need, I just love historical reenacting :D And I don't think I have a small cock :&
     
  19. bird_migration

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    Guys who feel the need to defend themself about their cock size, usually have a small one.
     
  20. psilonaut

    psilonaut Mushroom Muncher

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    Oooo good one bird ;) felt the burn there... ouch

    Was I defending my cock size?
     
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