Obama (leo) vs Mccain (virgo)

Im going for virgo Mccain over leo Obama. I have a friend that share the same bday with Obama and is SUPER clumsy, I cant have this in the whitehouse. Any ways Mccain being a virgo can bring some order out of this chaos were in and when Mccain debates with Obama, Obama is a pansy and doesnt fight back at Mccain. And Mccain seems to have a better more broken down plan. ( im a not a demo or rep.)

 

I'm an Obama girl myself.:cheers2:

 

You do realize that there's WAY more aside from Astrology that makes a person who he is, right?

 

yes but im not all the way mccain though i do like some obama things

 

Just making sure you're not judging presidential candidates based purely on astrological signs...

 

As much as I like astrology - to tell the truth, I was not even aware of the candidate's respective birthdays...'cause Zerox is right.

 

it figures. McCain being the stiff prude, Obama being the guy with personality and zest, though a little cocky...

 

Obama has Sun square Neptune like Bush he's a liar liar, pants on fire
He also has Mercury square Neptune = la-la land
I find it rather delirious a chart
McCain on the other hand has a very straighforward, solid chart
We have a ww2 kind of planetary setup starting to take shape, and the economic factor seems to be already in place. The world will not be the same once terrorists get nuclear weapons, and it will probably happen via the Iranians. America must have a strong leader to deal with this.

 

watch out Us president being the one they called antichrist.
aries, leo and virgo are good candidate to be antichrist.

antichrist will heal this world from economic crisis. he will lie about his true motive to this world.
is this world in the state of crisis?

 

You obviously didn't study the last crisis and the factors leading to it
I do not believe in the antichrist.

 

has it been the end of the world for evangelicals for the past 200 years?

 

I don't chose a candidate by his sun sign. If I was to chose one using astrology, I would look at the whole chart. All signs are inherently good or bad. It depends on the person what they do with their planetary energies. Some of the best people have the worst charts as the saying goes.

 

With my professional experience analysing thousands of charts, Obama's chart is very troublesome and misleading. Neptune is not a reliable planet, and it does not work well with Leo. I don't like his moon either. A Gemini moon has underlying, deep selfish inclinations, and that square to Pluto makes it that much more sickly. He has more emotional issues than is apparent to the electorate.

 

http://www.neptunecafe.com/obama.html

Obama's Chart

http://www.astrologyweekly.com/astrology-news/john-mccain-natal-chart.php

Mccain's Chart

 

That time for McCain is very questionable. If that certificate was true, all hell would have broken loose. Read about it here:
http://stariq.com/Main/Articles/P0009034.HTM

I suggest using Astrodatabank's time
http://www.astrodatabank.com/NM/McCainJohn.htm

 

Looks like Mccain is a loose cannon by looking at his chart. He's a maverick alright. He's power hungry also. I think he has more charisma than Obama.

It looks like Obama would be more diplomatic. I think Obama is a smart man, but may be more isolationist than Mccain.

They both seem to have a distorted view of things.

 

I don't see an unusual power hunger in those charts. Obama will be weaker, and as a result may withdraw to isolationism. McCain has a great Libra Mercury in the 12th conjunct to Venus, and thus is more diplomatic in the traditional sense as in give and take (and not the Neptunian give and give). Both have undeniable emotional issues, but McCain has a strong Sun to counter it, and is more mature emotionally as a Cap Moon than Obama as a Gem Moon.

 

Well I am talking solely about McCain. He has Pluto and Mars in the tenth house, and Pluto is opposed the moon which represents the people. He also has a t-square with Saturn, Neptune and apex planet Jupiter, thus he may have an obsessive spiritual agenda that he is going to unleash. Pluto and Mars in the 10th indicate dictator ideology. He also may have difficulty expressing his attractive traits and his communication may be difficult with venus and Mercury in the 12. Uranus in the 7th can indicate that he will be eradic and disruptive in his relations with the world. Uranus is squared Mars which can indicate his war making perspective. A good thing is he is also grounded by his earth sign planets and his Libra ASC.

 

People often give too much weight to house locations. Mars is subordinated to the Sun's fundamental values and Moony-moods, while Mercury can pop in between there, especially when the Sun is weakly in the chart. Granted, a Moon-Pluto conflict is a problematic aspect, and yet Obama also has this conflict in his chart, and a Capricorn Moon is more mature and reasonable under this aspect (and any emotional circumstance) than would be a less responsible, childish Gemini Moon. (I have Cap Moon square Pluto so I know a thing or two about it)

In the thousands of charts I studied I have not found significant influence to aspects in between non-personal planets (those beyond Mars), thus I do not consider that T square of real substance. In delineatory work I only consider aspects to Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars and conjunctions to the Ascendant (including aspects from non-personal planets to these personal planets).

Venus in the 12th is also often misinterpreted. I have that one too and love helping people. I am always smiling and courteous around people and can't stand people not liking me. I often let people walk all over me (I hate that in me), therefore I can personally attest that that delineation is off base. I also have a Mercury in the 12th, like McCain has. It shows that a person makes his decisions in a deeply meditative fashion, giving attention to little obscure details that others miss.

On the other hand, Mars square Uranus can reflect some burdensome impulsive potential, but again it cannot be taken outside of the context of the situation of the Sun and Moon, which in this case are deeply meticulous and calculated. This aspect is also the source of McCain boundless energies.

The Moon represents "the people" in the charts of countries, not so much in personal charts.

 

both canidates should be shot and sent to be burned and turned into compost. WHat we need to do is kill (or fire, I say kill) all politicians and reform our government because we started this country with shitty principals and to have this 300 year old piece of paper be our rules and regulations is obserd.

REFORM! Your government does not care about you anymore.