children and religion

Discussion in 'Ethics' started by melloncollie_girl, Sep 4, 2005.

  1. BlackGuardXIII

    BlackGuardXIII fera festiva

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    Inevitably, at some point, I feel we must take the responsibility for what we believe. It is our choice, whether our parents raised us to be whatever way. My family is generally atheist, and I was sent to sunday school and christian school because they felt it was good for me, but I noticed that they did not go to church. So, it was clear they weren't religious. But, my mom set a good example for me that led me to study things myself and then make up my own mind on things. It was a very hard path, since no one wanted me to ask so many questions and got frustrated when they couldn't convince me to agree with them. In the end I learned to not care who agreed with me, or what others believed, but only what I did. If I had studied something, and others could offer nothing new that swayed my views, I would not change them. It is what I call common sense, and taking responsibility, which is part of adulthood. Most people I meet, whatever stripe they are, don't do that. Very few do, probably because it is so difficult. If you make waves, don't play ball, don't go along with some group, and vocally express that you don't agree with their views, then it is likely you will face obstacles. Jobs become harder to find, and people who do join the crowd are generally in a position to get the job, deal, sale, etc. It makes every aspect of life harder, but it is worth it to me, because I know that whatever happens, I made my own bed, and if I am wrong at least I can say that it was my choice. It is very rare to find people who will respect others rights to believe what they wish, and treat them as equals.
     
  2. Maryslittlebrat

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    I prefer to just show my kid ideas, introduce them to all modes of thought and religions and if they like one cool, if not, cool
    God bless
     
  3. Mirakel

    Mirakel Member

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    its like teaching my kids that racism is bad. teach them what is important to you, what you believe to be true. im eternally grateful to my christian parents
     
  4. lifelovefun

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    Teaching children religion is one of the most abusive things you can do to them. It's worse than any physical abuse because of all the guilt, shame, and self hatred that it brings into them.

    Fuck Religion - And Free Your Mind :)
     
  5. CSP101

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    ^ I disagree that teaching religion is nessicarily abusive. It can open their mind to more possiblities than they thought existed. And only closed minded religion with strict and stupid rules really leads to guilt teaching your children of all religions can be one of the most mind opening and beneficial lessons in their childhood.
     
  6. repro-bait

    repro-bait a real reprobate.

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    not one parent in the whole world, whatever their religion has a right to indoctrinate any child with such nonsensical stuff as the existence of a god. any god!
    it is one of the most negative, if not THE most negative traits a parent could possibly exhibit.
     
  7. killswitchjd

    killswitchjd Senior Member

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    No one can say it is wrong for a parent to teach their child anything, its there right as the parent.
    That said, in many cases this will cause the child to later question why the fuck religion is so important and the logistics of the religion based on the worlds' standards. So it may end pushing them further away. Religion and logic must exist together, so if you do teach your kids be sure you can explain all aspects of this with near perfect logic, or good luck when they grow up and think for themself.
     
  8. Moon_Beam

    Moon_Beam zaboravljas

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    Parents should be able to teach their children anything providing it does not do harm. So I think children should be taught choice and if they are brought up in a Christian family, they should have the right to question and change their mind just as children brought up in non-Christian homes. Just because a childs parents are religious it doesn't mean that the child will grow up and non question anything for themselves.
     
  9. yumyum2k5

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    I was raised in no religion. i was raised to know that humans arent the most powerful beings in existence and that there is always that which we cant see.

    i was raised to know there was an all powerful creator who loves all and helps all and i was raised to know there are angels and that even though people are gone from the earth, the arent beyond reach. I was never made to go to church and neither of my parents went, i never heard the word god or jesus in my house.

    I then somehow stumbled across what i believe to be the truth in a world of confusion and that is rastafari. Neither of my parents know much about rasta and i dont tend to talk about it with them on a spiritual level just because.....they can tell im free.

    my sister is 2 years younger then me and by coincidence she has come across the same realities without any influence from me or parents. When i have children, i will raise them the same way, not to be egotistical and think humans are the almighty force in existence. I got faith my child will be free.
     
  10. guest432

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    aha hell no ur not crazy. i was sort of the same. baptised Catholic, went to a cotholic school etc but my parents didnt believe it really, but yet my granparents were VERY strong catholics and i was braught in malta a very catholic country

    anyway i dont think religion at all should fed to children, the bullshit my grandmother told me about being catholic and jesus etc used to make me fucking scared of life. Thankfullly my parents didnt help me believe in it and i came to my own senses when i looked at the world around me - the nuns in school were the most wicked women iv ever met - and theyre favourite kids in school were always the ones that went to mass EVERY morning before church. Most of them nuns and teachers treated me different to the kids that went church, just because i didnt fucking go. YET these kids again were bullies, racist and generally fucking assholes, AND i was a quiet girl, soemtimes bullied by these pricks yet some of the teachers and most of the nuns thaught it was ok because they prayed on theyre rosary beads every night and i didnt.

    aha and then when i found out that just over 100years ago catholic priests made peasants pay to get into heaven made me even realise more about what fucking bullshit kids are taught about being a good catholic

    So being a Catholic twat is o.k, as long as you go to church and pray.But being a person with good morals and ethics means nothing if u dont go to church and pray??? thats what a lot of kids are basically braught up thinking. much to the dissapointment of my school i didnt get confirmed . they always ask me why. lmao

    im not saying that all Catholics are like this, i know there are nice ones
     
  11. Spiritawakening

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    I agree with you here. i was brought up with my parents were into spiritualism and the like. I was taught that there wasn't a devil and that god loved us. Funny because over the last year both of them have become religious. i have a younger brother -as in uder 5- and he is being brought up going to church etc. I feel bad about this, but what can i do.
     
  12. heron

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    We raise our children on the lore and ways of our ancestors, as part of life, not as a seperate thing....as religion seems to be for most. Our ways provide answers and understandings, and promotes freedom of thought and individuality. I would be wrong not to raise them that way, and honestly, it is so engrained in all that we do, i wouldn't know how to.
     
  13. jimifan123

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    i some what agree. b/c some teachers might not know all the info. but on the other hand it could give us a better under standing of other religions so we cant offend any one of that religion
     
  14. jamaican_youth

    jamaican_youth Senior Member

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    I don't think its right to impose certain beliefs on children. Kids believe anything adults tell them, and for that reason it's wrong to teach children what their religion is when they can't yet really decide for themselves. They haven't properly developed their judgement or critical thinking yet. Children should be taught about religion, but not taught to believe in religion, if they choose too later on thats fine, but don't impose beliefs on them when they can't dispute what you're telling them.
     
  15. woodsman

    woodsman Senior Member

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    I don't think its right but people are going to do it anyway.
     
  16. djulian

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    I cannot even convince my daughter to poop in the potty. How am I going to explain that there may or may not be a god with or without proof? At least the poop flushes cool. Swirly.
     
  17. student of life

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    I am atheist and I don't expect my son to be. He is not old enough(9) to truly understand what that means. He has told me that he doesn't believe in god because i don't. I tell him that he shouldn't not believe in a god just because I don't. I explained to him that as he gets older he will make his own decision.

    I believed in god when I was younger because my dad was religious. I have been most different kinds of Christianity at one time or another as a small child. Even Jehovah s witness. We had someone come to our house once a week to preach to us. I remember saying the lord's prayer every night when I was little. Then I moved to my mother's house in eighth grade and didn't have that influence anymore. I started thinking other things. Since then, I have become atheist. I am not against religion and I do think that there could be something out there. Just don't know of anything that makes me think there is.

    My father has since found a new belief for himself.http://www.adl.org/learn/ext_us/Christian_Identity.asp?LEARN_Cat=Extremism&LEARN_SubCat=Extremism_in_America&xpicked=4&item=Christian_ID

    http://www.religioustolerance.org/cr_ident.htm

    I can't have that around my son. One time my father actually said that he thought we should round up all of the homosexuals and kill them. Needless to say, I will have nothing to do with him now.
     
  18. Padme

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    I think children should learn about the different religions and be able to make that decision on their own.
     
  19. Gedio

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    They should be told about said religions, but also told that they are, in all likelihood completely fabricated. they should be waned of the atrocities of these religions and the wars they have caused.

    If a child is raised into a hate religion such as the Judeo-christian branch, in some ways it is corruption of a minor.
     
  20. Stabby

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    It's unfortunate that Christianity basically commands people to indoctrinate their children from the time they can speak.
     

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