Ok so i have a friend who was very intrigued as to y i was having so much fun after having one beer in town the other night i explained to him and asked him if he wanted to try it he was pretty weary as he has no experience with any sort of drug apart from maybe a bit of laughing gas. I don't wanna push him into it but i said maybe he should try some legal alternatives first. So basically do any of them work and which are the best? I had some once at a festival they where ok just made me a bit energetic not really buzzing like MDMA does is that the case for all of them or are there any that give you a taste of the MDMA high?
Are you kidding me? No drug, legal or otherwise, can compare to ecstasy. It is in a league of its own. Every other drug is crap in comparison. Too bad I can't find it anymore.
Yea, that's not gonna happen, unfortunately The best way to start someone off is with a small dose, anyway. And he won't know at all what it feels like with any legal shit. (I like the first sentence to this thread)
There are some good legal alternatives to MDMA, unfortunately the legal highs industry is going through a bit of a rough patch at the minute and a few of the better quality products are being discontinued. See if you can get hold of London Underground - Summer Daze or some MMCAT.
Methylone is great... even more so than just a substitute for mdma, it's quite unique. However, I believe methylone is controlled in the UK? So I don't think it would necessarily qualify as a "legal alternative" for the OP.
I don't think it is, LU Doves supossedly contained methylone. Mephedrone and butylone are other chemicals the OP might want to look into.
i was reading on erowid that there is a "room deoderizer" that contains 97.8% Methylone its called xplosion.
Ah. You were right. From wikipedia: "Methylone is currently not specifically mentioned in UK law as the beta-ketone is not covered under the Misuse of Phenethylamines Law" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylenedioxymethcathinone I don't believe explosion is available anymore, there may be other methylone containing products available in different parts of the world. I don't know of any though. Methylone can be found from some research chemical vendors in the form of a powder.
Yeah it sounds good i want some. Anyway I ordered some of these http://www.youknowit.com/online_store/tweq_psychedelic_stimulation_37886.cfm on a friends recommendation apparently its the BZP in them that is the good stuff and works quite well anyone tried it?
BZP is a Piperazine. It will get you high, however I believe they tend to cause more annoying side effects than most recreational drugs. So a lot of people really don't like them, but some people do enjoy them so it's still worth a shot, I suppose. Check out this wikipedia page on bzp, lots of good information in there: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzylpiperazine There is also the bzp vault at erowid: http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/bzp/bzp.shtml If you look through the experiences on erowid, you'll see a lot of negative reports. Might be a good idea to read through them to get an idea of what to expect, side effects can include headaches, nausea, confusion, etc.
BZP is pretty horrible, it's a really edgy buzz. There are a lot of suppliers of these things in powder form online, look for... Methylone, mephedrone, butylone or mdvp
Ok so i used those legal pills linked to in my other post on a couple of occasions and had totally different experiences. The first time me and my girlfriend had nothing to do one night so decided to take them see how it was. We both took one each and after about 45 mins we both started to feel 'weird' sorry thats the only way to describe it all i wanted to was sit around and she wanted to go out and do something. In the end we went for a walk she lives in london so we just ended up walking along the river. Neither of us could say we felt good just strange also she was having major mood swings. I had no trouble sleeping about 8 hours after taking them but she couldn't sleep for a long time. So i considered that night unsuccessful and kinda decided there was no point in them. The second time me and a mate had planned to do MD but had been let down by a dealer so decided we may as well try them if we took more and the fact we where going out to pubs and clubs with mates might make it better and it was!!! I felt really good the whole night it was a very similar experience to MD as in i was happy very chatty and very energetic but it didn't have the feeling of universe understanding and every thing feeling right with the world if that makes sense. That night i could not sleep at all i think i got about an hours seep in the end, the whole of the day after i had the weird tingly feeling all over your body most people get on mdma also my balance was off pretty bad but by about 8 in the evening this had worn off. O yeah and both times i woke up with a hangover but taking a couple of ibuprofen solved it both times. Basically i say try it if you want to but don't rush out to get them. I think its a good idea to order some and keep them incase you cant get real pills for a night they are a pretty good replacement if your going to a club or a rave or something but be prepared the affects last a long time...
