Lucid Dreams

Discussion in 'Dreams' started by turtlefriend, Oct 10, 2004.

  1. turtlefriend

    turtlefriend Member

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    Anyone ever have a lucid dream, where you KNOW you're dreaming, but can't wake up, leaving you wandering around in a dreamworld?

    I first learned about lucids after renting Waking Life on DVD, but haven't had one...yet.
     
  2. ryupower

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    Yes...tons of them. They can tell you alot about yourself, if you ask someone a question addressing them as consciousness, you can learn alot about yourself. Lucid dreams can also allw you zo astralproject! They're awsome.
     
  3. pantalimon

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    I enjoy lucidity so much I made a place to visit http://www.lucidcrossroads.co.uk/ many people have been there too. A high lucid is worth a few million of anyone's money. :)
     
  4. ryupower

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    Nice site! And I see you made it to astral projection? That's awsome! I would've too, the only problem is that I read many times that, when you project, you hear all this noise including screaming,crying, laughing...ugh...I'm afraid of that!!
    (Ryupower, "Dragon power" as she calls herself...is such a wimp!:& )

    I know many sites about the astral...but you actually explain how they look. I always wanted to know that.You have images too! What a rare catch!... and how does ultraviolet look like?

    Put a guestbook in there!!

    EDIT: Site just landed in favourites. [​IMG]
     
  5. Soulless||Chaos

    Soulless||Chaos SelfInducedExistence

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    nevermind... :rolleyes:
     
  6. ryupower

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    [​IMG][​IMG] *Is confused* [​IMG][​IMG]
     
  7. pantalimon

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    Well unlike lucid dreaming science doesn't accept astral projection's, so when I say I've had them, I mean I've had what people describe as being AP's and it does "feel" different to even a high lucid.

    Some days I just think that the fear or excitement or knowledge that this is a large step beyond lucid dreaming colours a high lucid and maybe thats all astral projection is? I try to keep an open mind.

    Don't worry this isn't anything, you know the jerk thing you do when falling asleep or waking up, those noises last about that long a split second. They are very loud though, I never hear screams, just loud bangs maybe the snatch of a converstion.

    I haven't had an etheric/astral projection for well over a year now, although I have a method on that astral page I don't lie down and use it, I sort of know when I'm in the mood and it just happens.

    The experience of an astral is not really possible to explain in words or images. If I were to try I'd say, imagine a very real lucid combine this with your most aware moment on the planet say the moment in a car crash when your reactions and awareness become pin prick sharp and then jack into a main power line... this might be close...ish. What I'm getting at is that its so off the scale that whilst your this super being thingy you can fully appreiciate every molecule of the experience back in your body you stuggle to grasp even the proper way to recall it.

    I stepped into a garden once awash with every colour, I didn't really pay that much attention to the colour, I just knew I didn't want to leave.

    think it has one on the homepage and a few other places, glad you liked the site :)
     
  8. TheSkaEffect

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    best lucid dreaming site: www.ld4all.com about 5 months ago i went there and its changed my life. lucid dreams are a way of looking deep inside urself and perhaps solving ur problems, theyre also kick ass fun. just immagine a society where u can do whatever you want, and there are no rules, no boundaries, the only limit is ur immagination. immagine being able to fly, build cities, create anything u desire, have super powers..etc. i highly recommend lucid dreaming.
     
  9. ryupower

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    THANK YOU! I always thought it lasted like a half a minute or something... I'm gonna try that now...:)
     
  10. Meeshka Chaukinov

    Meeshka Chaukinov Senior Member

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    argh! I've been trying to do this unsuccessfully for a good while now. I think I should try harder with the tips.
     
  11. InTheFlesh

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    That really motivated me. I'm going to start a dream journal and do some of the other stuff too.
     
  12. peacefuljeffrey

    peacefuljeffrey Senior Member

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    Pantalimon,

    I looked over your site just a while ago. Haven't the time to go through it all in-depth, but I add it to the resources about dreaming that I have found so far. Your site is very nice. Did you do all those "Myst"-like graphics yourself? Impressive!

    I've known of lucid dreams for a long time now, but only have had a couple of them. I have very vivid dreams all the time -- sometimes extremely vivid in spite of being totally weird and unreal! I remember them very well, but the problem is, of course, that to my mind they are so realistic even when unrealistic that I fail to realize during the dream that it is a dream. And I don't want to resort to artificial means in order to achieve lucidity at will (a la "Novadreamer"-like devices).

    Anyway, I wonder about what you said regarding astral traveling, in your reply post on page 1 of this thread. I tend to disbelieve that people are actually truly astral traveling when they think they're doing it in a dream: I think it's part of the dream itself. One is dreaming that while dreaming one is actually going somewhere astrally. After all, why, in a lucid dream, could one not decide to make the dream about astral traveling, the same way one could make the dream about flying or making love with a beautiful woman?

    I must strongly recommend to you the fiction of H.P. Lovecraft. It's a little densely written, but fascinating. He wrote in the early 1900s through about 1940s, in a genre they call "weird fiction." He wrote a lot about menacing, malevolent gods from other dimensions which cross over with ours; humans who worship or summon these gods; people who cross paths with their malevolent ancestors; people who travel to places in a dream state and awaken to find that they have actually been there -- and in fact have taken objects back to waking reality from the dream with them! (It's strictly fiction, of course; but haven't you had a dream in which you had, say, a cool laser gun or something, and awakened to think, if only briefly, that you really did have one?! :D)

    Anyway, pick up a paperback anthology by Lovecraft, and make sure it contains a story called, "The Dreams in the Witch House." It will creep you the heck out! I recommend a printing by Del Rey books called, "The Best of H.P. Lovecraft: Bloodcurdling Tales of Horror and the Macabre." To help you order it, ISBN #0-345-35080-4

    Enjoy! :)

    Blue skies,
    -Jeffrey
     
  13. pantalimon

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    I'm rarely having LDs at the moment (although I did have one 2 days ago) or for a while now cause I've been so busy that I haven't put the time in to writing a dream journal and all the other aspects you need to get lucid on a regular basis.

    I see that you don't think that astral projection is real, well if I were you try to suspend your disbelife over this one and try some techniques. The beleife that you could be travelling, crossing over into another plane of existance can be a very exciting and stimulate you to have one (then you can decide for yourself!) This page http://www.lucidcrossroads.co.uk/astral.htm has an etheric technique. Etherics are the mutts nuts believe me, when you are seeing your room in crystal clear vision through your closed eyes it will shake your mind a little.

    Yes almost all the images on the site are created by me, glad you like the site, it also has a very indepth links page to other dream resources.

    Well I although I know what you mean, it feels great to lucid totally naturally, I'm very intresting in any methods that can get good results. A freind of my'n has nova dreamer and it works for him. I'll also be looking into other ways like ganzfeld, floation tanks and hypnotic induction next year, I'll post the results on the site.

    Well as I said in my last post, when I say I've had them, I mean I've had what people describe as being AP's and it does "feel" different to even a high lucid.

    Actually at the moment I'm in a phase of truely believing in them. everyone has a view on this subject and you'll fall somewhere between a few arguements.

    1. AP's and OB's are just very high lucids.
    2. AP's and OB's are high lucids but in that state you have unconcious access to what are normally termed as psi/paranormal senses/insight, the high lucid experience is just acting as the operating system so you can interpret information that would be beyond your grasp normally.
    3. AP's and OB's are the seperation and travel of the light body from your real body.

    In the thrid (and last) refit of the Lucid Crossroads I'll be building lots of ways to explore this subject.

    Thnaks for the H.P. Lovecraft recomendation, I'm sure there must be a copy in this house its filled with books.
     
  14. pantalimon

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    In the flesh wrote,
    If you really want to get into lucid dreams I can really recomend joining this forum http://www.dreamofpeace.net/sealife/index.php (The Sealife forum)

    Its not just an LD discussion forum, its main focus is its dream teams each dream team is a cluster of around 10 people who post their dreams, like an online dream journal. Only members of your dream team can have acess to your dream teams forum.

    You don't have to have ever been lucid but joining would be one of the best ways you can get lucid as there are a mixture of experienced people etc and cause the focus is all on dreams it will really put your mind on the right track.

    I'm actually not a member of any dream team as I haven't the time at the moment to put into a team but I would recommend the forum. Also it has a very welcoming hippy feel and is alined with the mayan tzolkin (hense the manyan star signs for each dream team).
     
  15. ryupower

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    The whole astral projection thing, you can have one without dreamin, but lucid dreaming makes it easier. You can actually MEET people in the astral. Say, you and your friend say you're gonna meet this night, and talk, you both astral project and do so , the next day you'll talk to them, you'll see that they know exactly what you're talking about. I know of a site that actually has a meeting place....

    Some people say that they've seen colors they've never seen before. I could go on and on, but I don't wanna! :p

    AND those are amazing graphics BTW. What program?
     

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